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| 06:40:11 | <yzqzss> | Meizu (a phone brand, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meizu). Their phone R&D business has been suspended, and some news says they will be delisted this month(?). |
| 06:45:02 | <yzqzss> | I'm working on archiving their user forum. |
| 06:47:56 | <@arkiver> | yzqzss: can you please put it in ArchiveBot as well so it can enter the Wayback Machine? |
| 06:50:45 | <yzqzss> | arkiver: sure, but AB can't handle their site directly, it's SPA |
| 06:52:47 | <yzqzss> | I'll put urls.txt here when I got a full list |
| 06:53:03 | <@arkiver> | ouch that sucks |
| 06:54:42 | <nicolas17> | Single Pain in the Ass website |
| 06:55:05 | <yzqzss> | and it's also hard for WBM to replay it |
| 06:55:22 | <@arkiver> | yeah |
| 06:55:38 | <@arkiver> | well, thanks for making a copy of it, sucks that they host it this way |
| 06:59:52 | <yzqzss> | nicolas17: lmao |
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| 07:05:12 | <cm> | anyone know of a mirror of the old uu.net ftp site? |
| 07:05:43 | <cm> | I have an oreilly lex & yacc book from 1995, it says to get the sample programs from ftp.uu.net |
| 07:06:24 | <cm> | under directory published/oreilly/nutshell/lexyacc and file name progs.tar.Z |
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| 07:36:00 | <vitaly-zdanevich> | Docker warrior: so can I use cli to start scrapping? |
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| 07:51:51 | <chrismrtn> | cm: I'm not sure if it'll be the right version, but is https://ftp.st.ryukoku.ac.jp/pub/published/oreilly/nutshell/lexyacc/progs.tar.Z what you are looking for? |
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| 11:46:46 | <Webuser922029> | Hello. I am new here. I can see that almost all, if not all, of the collections are restricted on archive.org. Any reason why? I tried searching but could not get any info on the scale of the restrictions |
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| 13:28:47 | <h2ibot> | Klea edited Warrior projects (+1290, Update collection locked status in…): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=60624&oldid=58035 |
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| 13:35:48 | <h2ibot> | Klea edited Warrior projects (+0, For [[Drawr]] use [[Template:IA id]] rather…): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=60625&oldid=60624 |
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| 13:49:49 | <klea> | I'd like to update every project's page that references now private ids (they have been since a while), but I'm not entirely sure that's a good idea, so I'll wait until someone tells me OK or NOK. |
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| 14:19:32 | <cm> | chrismrtn: yes that's the one!! |
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| 14:45:53 | <Yakov> | The website ow.ly owned by hootsuite seems to be shuttering, it seems to be a url shortener (ow.ly/[idhere]) and an image hosting site (ow.ly/i/[imageid]) and all images now 404 (example url https://ow.ly/i/1hh89) |
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| 14:47:41 | <Yakov> | That example url last worked as recent as dec 2025, i even queued a list into AB of a few imgs, but even then it was unclear site how long the site will last, it was already falling apart for years with all js on the site completely gone |
| 14:49:25 | <Yakov> | However now that's gone. I've realized 2 things though, (a) images are still accessible on their static bucket (e.g., https://static.ow.ly/photos/original/1hh89.png it is unclear how long this will last for) and (b) all ids are incremental and can probably be bruteforced/scraped since its character set is [a-zA-Z0-9] |
| 14:54:08 | <Yakov> | Is it possible to archive all content on the static bucket? content on there goes at least as back as 2008 |
| 15:23:47 | <@arkiver> | ah |
| 15:24:11 | <@arkiver> | Yakov: do you have any source for the shut down of ow.ly? |
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| 15:46:07 | <h2ibot> | 0KepOnline edited Spore (+558, /* Site API */ Added mentions of the…): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=60626&oldid=53525 |
| 16:00:56 | <justauser> | https://old.reddit.com/r/Archiveteam/comments/1rnv96l/angelfire_is_dead_but_there_is_still_a_slim/ looks serious. |
| 16:01:25 | <justauser> | TL;DR Tripod is highly unreliable and there was an announcement of closure, since then retracted. |
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| 16:33:23 | <tmg1|michelson> | about 2-3 weeks ago someone posted a blog post linking to 3 mega archives full of 'rare' rap cds, begging people here to back them up. i have downloaded all of them, and the ones that are older than 1998 are now mirrored on my mega archive in case anyone else wants to grab them(or anything else i've been saving) https://mega.nz/folder/o1og0bKK#PJ2ghnddaSCz-4QXbqn_Rg |
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| 18:42:36 | <Yakov> | arkiver: no official announcement. ow.ly is entirely dead though, functionality has been decaying for years now, with the removal of being able to search by any basis (keyword or via profile url) all 404ing as of dec 2025, pretty sure it was like that for years. the glaring problem that started happening recently being image urls themselves are now |
| 18:42:36 | <Yakov> | 404ing, excluding their direct url on (static.ow.ly) |
| 18:42:45 | <Yakov> | hence https://ow.ly/i/1hh89 now 404ing |
| 18:44:29 | <Yakov> | https://www.hootsuite.com/pages/owly its a url shortener now, not an image host, thats why everything has died, cant find any announcement but the image hosting part of their service was killed off |
| 18:45:46 | <h2ibot> | Exorcism edited Bugzilla (+31, /* Archived */): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=60630&oldid=60629 |
| 18:46:11 | <klea> | Supposing the id space is only 5 characters, and all images are pngs, that's 916132832 requests. |
| 18:48:08 | <klea> | JAA, is qwarc a good tool for this purpose? it'd have to check common filetypes for images for every single one of the pages on the id space, until it figures which one it is, and then it can go to the next. |
| 18:49:07 | <Yakov> | https://transfer.archivete.am/cbcmD/owly-output.txt is a handful of image urls i queued in december |
| 18:49:07 | <eggdrop> | inline (for browser viewing): https://transfer.archivete.am/inline/cbcmD/owly-output.txt |
| 18:49:33 | <klea> | Yakov: you queued those via AB? |
| 18:49:37 | <Yakov> | ye |
| 18:49:50 | <Yakov> | before the non-static equivalent 404d |
| 18:50:38 | <klea> | so also normal appart from original. |
| 18:50:39 | <Yakov> | if you look closely, all https://static.ow.ly/photos/normal/[imgid] are .jpg's and those are the compressed version, but all the /original/[imgid] are sometimes jpg sometimes png |
| 18:51:52 | <klea> | mhmm |
| 18:52:20 | <klea> | 1832265664 possibilities for the original/ pages. |
| 18:52:42 | <Yakov> | i was thinking of locally HEAD checking for every id combination using png and jpg then creating a list to queue in AB |
| 18:52:56 | <Yakov> | not sure how long that would take |
| 18:53:36 | <klea> | ofc that's a bit too many to be really true (since it's 2x the count, and I suppose most times with one request we'd get 200 and not have to do the other. |
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| 19:12:45 | <Yakov> | yeah so doing a little bit of math, if I can do 5 requests per second and there are 1,832,265,664 possibilities, it will take 11.6 years, if however there are 500 RPS, it can take only 42 days, if there are 5000 it can take just 4.2 days |
| 19:14:08 | <Yakov> | anyone have suggestions if and how we can proceed? |
| 19:16:34 | <Yakov> | would be nice to save all the ancient images from the site before the inevitable death |
| 19:18:51 | <h2ibot> | Exorcism edited Bugzilla (+37, /* Archived */): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=60631&oldid=60630 |
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| 20:02:12 | <@JAA> | klea: If there are no rate limits, that'd work well with qwarc, yeah. |
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| 21:09:21 | <systwi_> | klea: I just saw your revision comment on my Topics of Archiving Interest page. I think there already exists a "how to help" page. |
| 21:10:10 | <systwi_> | On the wiki's home page: [Who We Are](https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/Who_We_Are) and how you can join our cause! |
| 21:10:46 | <systwi_> | It's not as fleshed-out (nor as obvious, I feel) for how newcomers can assist. |
| 21:11:12 | <systwi_> | ...but it does mention the AT IRC channels. |
| 21:12:09 | <klea> | I think [[Who We Are]] could use some help in describing Who AT is, and there should be separate how to help page, explicitly stating, help us with warriors, writers, and try to find old obscure stuff that might be likely to disappear and tell us about it. |
| 21:13:25 | <systwi_> | I agree with that. |
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| 22:36:42 | <klea> | Found some weird discord alternative? https://www.rootapp.com/ from https://rootapp.gg/ACzuOwmOjAqdEeVt4YpzbQ from https://wildhq.org/ from https://packbase.app/ from https://work.wildhq.org/ |
| 22:40:11 | <danceswithpixels> | klea & systwi_: this is extremely timely as I've been lurking for the last two days trying to figure out this exact process myself. A mentorship or dedicated names of people to contact as a newbie would be helpful too. It makes asking questions and getting started less intimidating. |
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| 22:48:18 | <nicolas17> | is ow.ly not already in #urlteam? |
| 22:53:07 | <klea> | (re ow.ly) Probably if changed frequently not. |
| 22:55:04 | <Yakov> | nicolas17: i'm talking about their images, not their url shortener |
| 22:55:16 | <nicolas17> | oh! |
| 22:56:36 | <Yakov> | example url: https://web.archive.org/web/20251204051118if_/https://ow.ly/i/LNww |
| 22:57:23 | <Yakov> | Now that's down, only the images themselves are still up e.g. https://static.ow.ly/photos/normal/LNww.jpg or https://static.ow.ly/photos/original/LNww.jpg |
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