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01:34:04<nicolas17>I think classification.gov.au banned my IP
01:40:05<Flashfire42>Maybe or its just that its an australian government site and they are awful
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03:03:02<nukke>https://www.tomshardware.com/video-games/390tb-video-game-archive-being-taken-offline-due-to-skyrocketing-ram-ssd-and-hard-drive-prices-ai-driven-supply-squeeze-results-in-closure-of-one-of-the-largest-online-video-game-archives
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03:40:16<nicolas17>nukke: https://bsky.app/profile/textfiles.com/post/3mfut5w3dd22m
03:51:01<nexussfan>> Can preservation only happen at the internet archive?
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03:58:57steering wants to start archiving irc
03:59:14<pabs>https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/IRC/Logs :)
03:59:21<steering>by which i mean, an open database of masscan-and-connect-and-list-and-lusers-and-stuff
04:00:48<pabs>oh, like netsplit.de?
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04:13:13<steering>ye sorta
04:13:45<steering>more like https://www.ircstats.org/data but with more raw data
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08:43:35<eggdrop>[tell] egallager: [2026-02-04T02:26:59Z] <pabs> re that wesnoth forums post, there are a few non-404 .sf2 files on IA, found using the little-things ia-cdx-search tool https://transfer.archivete.am/cqUq9/www.freesf2.com-non-404-sf2-files.txt
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13:15:16<IDK>so no myrient project? :(
13:17:53<IDK>if its concerns with DMCA, is it possible to do a project, but make the data inaccessible even through WBM?
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13:43:25<nicolas17>IDK: download speeds are like 200KB/s now that everyone and their dog is doing independent and uncoordinated archival for themselves
13:43:35<nicolas17>so a full-site project seems infeasible anyway
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13:48:25<Nekroschizofrenetyk>Hi, https://forum.dobreprogramy.pl/ is being shut down today, an old Polish software forum. There's a job running on AB since yesterday but it will capture only a small section of the forum. Sharing here, maybe somebody would come up with some ideas to help save a little more of it. Sorry for spamming.
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13:54:31<nicolas17>I have achieved the unthinkable and got a consistent list of classification.gov.au
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14:02:10<nicolas17>no duplicate titles!
14:04:43<nicolas17>if anyone cares, here's the whole 19GiB of HTML https://transfer.archivete.am/14xFqu/classification-gov-au-pages.tar.zst
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14:12:07<@arkiver>nicolas17: can we archive this with AB or similar? i did not yet look into it much
14:12:27<@arkiver>IDK: it's huge, 390 TB costs a lot. especially nowadays with higher hardware prices
14:12:52<@arkiver>i would like to do a project, but in that project i do not want to simply duplicate 200 TB (just throwing out a number) that is easily available elsewhere
14:13:04<@arkiver>so we'd need someone to look into what they have, and "how unique" it is
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14:40:31<nicolas17>hmmmm
14:40:47<nicolas17>I think AB would work actually
14:41:35<nicolas17>there's an akamai cookie and things break once it expires, but it seems a request without the cookie just gives you one?
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14:43:20<nicolas17>do !a< jobs retrieve all URLs in the list *before* recursing into links in them?
14:45:50<@arkiver>we need an AB-qualified person for that question ^
14:46:00<@arkiver>(i am not very experienced with AB)
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14:47:43<nicolas17>it looks like they don't only add new items at the beginning of the list, but also move items from elsewhere in the list to the beginning (I guess they modify items and the list is sorted by last modification)
14:48:00<nicolas17>so if they do such a change when we're halfway through the list, we could miss some
14:51:40<Guest>myrient++ ( #archiveteam )
14:51:46<Guest>myrient++
14:51:47<eggdrop>[karma] 'myrient' now has 5 karma!
14:51:49<Guest>there
14:53:31<kiska>arkiver: We seem to have a forum shutting down today? https://forum.dobreprogramy.pl/ From Nekroschizofrenetyk
14:58:23<Nekroschizofrenetyk>I'm sorry, I meant tomorrow
14:58:41<Nekroschizofrenetyk>2nd of March
14:59:44<kiska>Hrm... we have slightly more time I guess...
15:00:07<kiska>This the forum post for the shutdown? https://forum.dobreprogramy.pl/t/koniec-forum-to-forum-zostanie-wylaczone-2-marca-2026-roku-nowe-forum/667855
15:00:12<Nekroschizofrenetyk>yes
15:00:22<Nekroschizofrenetyk>I've found out only yesterday morning
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15:03:30<Nekroschizofrenetyk>I've manually archived first ca. 2150 URLs, the coverage by IA is pretty low - like maybe 15-25% of posts from 2004. I believe it's better with the <10 years-old posts. Archivebot has been running since yesterday (9s9anhxembmenhinblp4rl9di) but won't get near to archiving the forum
15:05:26<nicolas17>kiska: AB already running for dobreprogramy, but not fast enough
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15:05:50<kiska>Yeah which is why I highlighted arkiver as he and a few other people can start a DPOS
15:06:29<susbaconhairman>I'm sure this has been asked before, but are the Archive Team looking into preserving Myrient?
15:07:20<kiska>If we can get only the unique things that aren't on the IA possibly
15:07:26<kiska>Otherwise no
15:07:31<kiska>Also
15:07:31<kiska>myrient++
15:07:32<eggdrop>[karma] 'myrient' now has 6 karma!
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15:41:42<PC>there are some things on there that were removed from the IA, apparently
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15:42:56<PC>just from skimmin the landing page and FAQ, don't know which files exactly but there is an IA folder
15:43:28<PC>*skimming
15:43:32<PC>ah, there we go "Internet Archive: Various content that is at risk of being removed or was removed from the Internet Archive"
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15:43:42<PC>so https://myrient.erista.me/files/Internet%20Archive/
15:43:54<PC>not sure how that'd play with being archived
15:44:41<PC>seems that there's a romhacking.net archive on there? i remember that going down a bit ago, not sure if it's preserved elsewhere
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16:26:32<justauser>We probably don't want to anger our founder.
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16:27:03<justauser>https://minerva-archive.org/ looks serious at least - maybe you should join. Requires Discord account, though.
16:27:50<klea>I think by removed they mean darkened, which means they weren't deleted.
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16:43:01<nicolas17>arkiver: it seems classification.gov.au might require HTTP2
16:46:37<klea>WARC--
16:46:38<eggdrop>[karma] 'WARC' now has 0 karma!
16:48:28<justauser>WARC++
16:48:30<eggdrop>[karma] 'WARC' now has 1 karma!
16:48:37<justauser>As if be have anything better.
16:48:43<justauser>s/be/we/
17:02:26<justauser>Going to restart the learn.redhat.com job, since it seemingly worked fine despite 202s.
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17:07:42<justauser>Weird. Started going through correct pages, then finished too fast.
17:08:04<justauser>arkiver: So it didn't work.
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17:41:44<klea>Yeah that's true, we don't have something better.
17:48:52<egallager>so apparently the Minecraft PS3 source code leaked
17:48:58<nexussfan>I've heard
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18:22:44<justauser>Opendiary seems to be fetching images now, not actual posts. They seem to be on S3.
18:23:13<justauser>Should we bump the rate limit? One day past the announced shutdown, but not yet dead.
18:23:52<justauser>Some people also posted *today*. If we had a hardcoded largest post, we missed that. /cc arkiver
18:24:01<nicolas17>if there's posts in the queue, we should probably prioritize them
18:24:27<nicolas17>if there's only images in the queue, we should ramp up rate limit a lot, S3 has endless capacity
18:24:31<justauser>I don't know if there are any, but seems like the transition was sharp.
18:24:58<justauser>So I guess it stopped doing todo and switched to :backfeed.
18:26:14<nicolas17>JAA imer: can you increase rate limit on opendiary? it seems there's only images left in queue, which are on S3/cloudfront
18:27:24<@imer>increased to 1k/min from 200
18:29:13<nicolas17>hm seems to be staying around 100/min
18:29:23<nicolas17>imer: hope you didn't typo that >.>
18:29:54<@imer>mh, might be a pattern limit. lets see
18:30:52<@imer>ah, ^user and ^tag are limited to 0
18:30:55<@imer>let me do some moving
18:31:13<nicolas17>huh
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18:32:29<nicolas17>there may also be a ton of claims that need retrying btw
18:32:42<nicolas17>but I'm out of the loop on what item types we have etc
18:33:53<@imer>doing that^
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18:36:32<justauser>Looks good.
18:36:44<nicolas17>my docker container can't get images, my browser can, huh
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18:39:16<nicolas17>success rate now 4%, what happened :|
18:40:11<justauser>Ouch. Something went wrong.
18:40:36<justauser>Did we have tons of normal items hiding in claims?
18:41:17<nicolas17>justauser: do you have a grabber running? is it getting anything?
18:41:28<justauser>Not on this project.
18:41:28<nicolas17>I'm getting asset/image items... which time out
18:43:05<justauser>Looks like we are trying to hammer opendiary.com now :/
18:43:13<justauser>But why?
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18:44:01<@imer>mmh, it may have grabbed some from backfeed since i took the limit off briefly
18:44:20<@imer>!remindme 1h opendiary alive again?
18:44:20<eggdrop>[remind] ok, i'll remind you at 2026-03-01T19:44:20Z
18:45:07<nicolas17>why are image items not working for me :/
18:45:38<justauser>Looks like *some* images are not on S3.
18:45:51<justauser>E.g. https://www.opendiary.com/wp-content/uploads/avatars/556019/68297b7c08b56-bpthumb.png
18:46:03<nicolas17>2=0 https://files.opendiary.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/18092249/IMG_20230317_1026422-300x225.jpg
18:46:04<nicolas17>Server returned bad response. Sleeping 4 seconds.
18:46:06<nicolas17>3=0 https://files.opendiary.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/18092249/IMG_20230317_1026422-300x225.jpg
18:46:07<nicolas17>Server returned bad response. Sleeping 7 seconds.
18:46:09<nicolas17>yet they work in the browser
18:46:25<justauser>Wow. Some DoS defence on Amazon side?
18:50:36<nicolas17>for a second I thought "or my docker networking is fucked"
18:50:45<nicolas17>but of course that's not it, since it can connect to the tracker -_-
18:52:30<justauser>cURL + Tor = response, so nothing obvious.
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19:10:11<pokechu22>nicolas17: Yes, !a < list jobs grab all URLs in the list before grabbing links from those URLs (and it recurses into links in the order that the original URLs were retrieved - roughly the order of the list, barring concurrency stuff)
19:10:45<pokechu22>(for !a < list with custom sitemap, which is probably what's needed there, URLs from the sitemap are grabbed in a random order, but it's still everything from the sitemap before any further links from URLs in the sitemap)
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19:39:10<justauser>Oh. Here's a theory. We reclaimed everything, including some 12+ KURLs of former todo, which is opendiary.com. Warriors rushed to claim it again, with no limit, and we killed the server.
19:40:22<justauser>So I guess we'll need the limit for a bit longer, unless we give up on the main domain and rush to get the images instead.
19:44:21<eggdrop>[remind] imer: opendiary alive again?
20:03:37<nicolas17>justauser: opendiary images are going great now... still not working for *me* :/
20:17:48<nicolas17>aaaaa I forgot to check at the right time
20:18:33<nicolas17>!remindme "18:50 UTC" check when classification.gov.au changes
20:18:33<eggdrop>[remind] error: "18:50 UTC" (parsed as 1772391000 → 2026-03-01T18:50:00Z) is in the past
20:18:39<nicolas17>!remindme "tomorrow 18:50 UTC" check when classification.gov.au changes
20:18:40<eggdrop>[remind] ok, i'll remind you at 2026-03-02T18:50:00Z
20:18:56<nicolas17>I think it's at 19:00 UTC
20:19:36<nicolas17>!remindme "tomorrow 18:50 UTC" current c.gov.au result count 3847828
20:19:37<eggdrop>[remind] ok, i'll remind you at 2026-03-02T18:50:00Z
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20:35:19<nicolas17>pokechu22: curl --http1.1 'https://www.classification.gov.au/' --compressed -H 'User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:140.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/140.0' -H 'Accept-Language: en'
20:35:24<nicolas17>Accept-Language makes it work \o/
20:36:12<pokechu22>qwarc or grab-site should definitely be able to do that (qwarc might make more sense if the cookie needs to be repeatedly invalidated, but I could totally see akamai being jank enough that the cookie only needs to be invalidated in real browsers...)
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21:04:15<Dango360>what about archiving myrient's *content listings* html? (not the actual files themselves, the folder structure)
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22:12:38<nicolas17>Dango360: I fear for my bodily integrity if I do anything with Myrient without Jason Scott agreeing
22:12:50<nicolas17>but I agree
22:13:02<nicolas17>and afaik myrient.erista.me doesn't host any files
22:13:15<nicolas17>all files redirect to another erista hostname
22:13:40<nicolas17>so we just need to not follow redirects
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