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00:20:42<hexa->JAA: are y'all really interested in what we consider the ultimate garbage?
00:21:14<hexa->like, these are not a) sources b) things one would actually consume on a system
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00:35:38<hexa->these are c) old installer isos and d) old system images used in nixos tests and their reverse dependencies
00:43:40<hexa->JAA seen wolf
00:43:42<hexa->probably
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01:18:37<h2ibot>Cooljeanius edited Archive.today (+315, /* Vital Signs */ mention Wikipedia controversy): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=60534&oldid=60499
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01:24:58<pokechu22>hexa-: Isn't the whole goal of nix to be reproducible, too? In which case those could all be regenerated later if they turned out to somehow be important?
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01:59:48<h2ibot>PaulWise edited Deathwatch (+262, update cyberhome info): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=60535&oldid=60463
02:00:06<@JAA>hexa-: Installers sound potentially interesting. Tests perhaps less so, yeah.
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02:00:14<@JAA>(And traitor, not wolf)
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02:15:17<pabs>anyone here read Japanese? I'm not sure if the Firefox machine translation is correct, but it sounds like cyberhome are shutting down their old web hosting (www.a{a,b,c,d}.cyberhome.ne.jp/~example/) and setting up a new one (example.web.cyberhome.ne.jp)
02:15:44<pabs>https://www.cyberhome.ne.jp/oshirase/20250916.html
02:17:06<@JAA>Yep, someone already reported it to #webroasting earlier.
02:17:22<@JAA>(Er, here, and it was relayed there.)
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02:48:40<Webuser720304>Could you archive web sites hosted by CYBERHOME ISP? The ISP is migrating its hosting service to the new system which uses domains like "example.web.cyberhome.ne.jp".
02:49:33<katia>Webuser720304: do you have a list of domains perchance? or any way to get one? thanks for letting us know
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02:52:53<Webuser720304>I would like you to archive web sites hosted on the previous servers: "www.aa.cyberhome.ne.jp", "www.ab.cyberhome.ne.jp", "www.ac.cyberhome.ne.jp", and "www.ad.cyberhome.ne.jp".
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03:00:30<Webuser720304>I would like to state that web sites hosted by the new system using subdomains like "example.web.cyberhome.ne.jp" are not going to be deleted.
03:09:40<Webuser720304>Additionally, would you see that your ArchiveBot instances can access web sites hosted by land.to?
03:14:38<Webuser720304>I think that the service may restrict access from outside Japan because I have observed that access to a web site hosted by land.to using VPN is redirected to the 404 error page "https://error.fc2.com/other/" even though the web site is still available.
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03:16:58<h2ibot>PaulWise edited Deathwatch (+57, clarify cyberhome shut down): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=60536&oldid=60535
03:17:18<pabs>Webuser720304: do you know if there is a list of individual websites on the old cyberhome hosting system?
03:17:45<pabs>Webuser720304: do you have an example land.to site that we can check?
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03:32:05<Webuser720304>pabs: Sorry, but I cannot provide you with a list of the web sites on the old CYBERHOME hosting system.
03:33:48<pabs>I tried one land.to site but AB could not save it http://seoul.cs.land.to/
03:34:38<pabs>tried a few more with similar results
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03:37:57<cruller>IIRC, Googlebot UA is required for other fc2web services?
03:37:59<Webuser720304>pabs: Could you access "http://jyumokuzukan.cs.land.to/"? I should be able to access almost all the web sites hosted by land.to.
03:38:56<pabs>googlebot UA didn't work for http://jyumokuzukan.cs.land.to/
03:39:18<pabs>it got a 302 to a 404
03:41:11<pabs>mnbot got the same in #jseater
03:41:20<pabs>trying with -u stealth
03:41:37<cruller>It seems so. I'll read logs of #forbiddencravingcenter.
03:41:52<Webuser720304>I can access the contents of the web site on "http://jyumokuzukan.cs.land.to/". The web site is written about trees in Japan.
03:42:09<pabs>archive.org SPN can't save http://jyumokuzukan.cs.land.to/ either
03:42:25<pabs>archive.today gets the same error too
03:42:34<pabs>my browser can reach it fine though
03:43:38<pabs>#jseater failed with -u stealth too https://mnbot.very-good-quality-co.de/item/711cf4ed-a241-4d00-ab9c-ccda88aab29c
03:44:13<pabs>my guess is it requires a residential IP to work
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03:58:22<Webuser720304>Megalodon.jp seems to be able to archive web sites hosted by land.to. (https://megalodon.jp/2026-0222-1255-09/jyumokuzukan.cs.land.to/)
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04:10:20<tzt>Japanese musicians Misskey instance otoskey.tarbin.net is shuttiing down today 2026-02-22
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04:34:44<pabs>thats scripty tzt
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04:43:51<pabs>tzt: do you know if tanukey (the codebase that uses) is at risk too?
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04:48:44<pabs>saving their bandcamp and fansite https://weloveotoskey.bandcamp.com/ https://weloveotoskey.wixsite.com/we-love-otoskey
04:52:12<cruller>As long as Novelskey continues, Tanukey will likely continue too.
04:52:27<cruller>Archiving an entire Fediverse server is difficult, but it might be worth SPN/mnbotting some important pages.
04:52:36<cruller>However, it's unclear which pages are important.
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04:56:18<pabs>I did / /about /about-tanukey
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04:57:55<cruller><cruller> "However, it's unclear which..." <- Home page, ToS, privacy policy, release notes, well-known resources, server stats, etc?
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05:02:11<pabs>did AB all the well-known
05:02:33<pabs>did SPN/mnbot/archive.today for /signin /signup
05:02:49<pabs>can't find any other clickable things that change the URL
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05:31:00<cruller>Great! The other tabs in https://otoskey.tarbin.net/about make additional API calls, but are they worth archiving?
05:32:36<pabs>I'd say yes, but it would need custom JS to do
05:32:40<cruller>Otoskey itself does not have /api-doc, but many of https://legacy.misskey-hub.net/docs/api/endpoints.html are likely valid.
05:51:08<pabs>did the /about tabs with custom JS
05:58:48<cruller>pabs++
05:58:49<eggdrop>[karma] 'pabs' now has 160 karma!
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07:40:37<h2ibot>Cruller edited Deathwatch (+358, /* 2026-02 */ Add Discover us and Sony wena 3): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=60537&oldid=60536
07:44:47<cruller>Does anyone know about https://nocnoc.com/, a Thai digital platform? It's not completely offline yet, but most of the pages redirect to the home page.
07:46:09<cruller>The shutdown schedule is a bit complicated, so I don't quite understand it.
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10:32:58<hexa->JAA: that's like 98 TiB of installers if you really want them
10:38:17<klea>Oh, I thought that included some early mkinitpcios that didn't build reproducibly, if it's just installers, probably not good idea/
10:38:22<klea>s/\//?/
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11:04:27<@arkiver>hexa-: are they available publicly online?
11:07:51<klea>I believe they're no longer availbale from c.n.o, but are still on the s3 bucket under requester-pays, not sure about if one could reasonably reconstruct those, given they have the source code for everything needed.
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13:33:45<hexa->arkiver: no, we'd need to undelete them first
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21:23:00<hexa->so please tell me what you want and I'll forward the question into the infra team to form a consensus
21:23:40<hexa->most of what was deleted also isn't hot, so it will result in some s3 egress cost
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22:20:16<klea><thunderysteak> Hey I just saw that Fredrick Brennan died and his personal site appears to be still up, but not seeing any 2026 snapshot on archive.org. Could someone please do a final crawl before it goes poof? Thanks https://copypaste.wtf/
22:20:16<klea><thunderysteak> Post regarding the announcement of his death: https://x.com/IFTIpod/status/2025353738718716305
22:20:16<klea>(from #archiveteam)
22:20:17<eggdrop>nitter: https://nitter.net/IFTIpod/status/2025353738718716305
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