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01:06:37<pabs>oh, bing subdomain searches are working again. its been months...
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01:16:56<nicolas17>welp
01:17:09<nicolas17>Hytale introduced signed URLs for the game files
01:17:23<klea>:(
01:17:28<klea>hytale--
01:17:28<eggdrop>[karma] 'hytale' now has -1 karma!
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06:21:47<theexit8>Hi all! Asked a couple of days ago but didn't get a response, so figured I should just wait a while. Would it be worthwhile to deploy a new ArchiveBot pipeline? I've got a spare server with enough capacity to run it, and can happily follow the instructions on the Wiki myself to install it. Just need to know if the Machine ID will get approved for
06:21:47<theexit8>this to be worth my effort installing it? Thanks again
06:24:01<pokechu22>theexit8: generally we only accept archivebot pipelines from people who have been around for a while, and the pipelines need to be up for a long time (some jobs last for several months, and I think you said that server would only be up through April or so?)
06:24:15<pokechu22>Running Warrior/DPoS projects would probably be more suitable for that, since those are intended to be ran by anyone
06:25:42<theexit8>Ah yeah, sorry, to clarify I've run warriors with about a 95% uptime since June of last year. You can just search my username "theexit8" on the YouTube tracker or URLs
06:27:07<theexit8>I don't recall mentioning something about April? Might have been someone else. I can keep the pipeline running for months so long as it can be paused on occasion in case a drive fails or something
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08:29:13<theexit8>Anyways I'll stay logged into this chat for another day or so. If I get the OK to run a pipeline (my server otherwise meets the specs outlined on the Wiki) I'll install and run it as soon as possible
08:44:30<@arkiver>theexit8: what pokechu22 noted is the case at the moment. you are free to run a warrior for example
08:45:05<@arkiver>it's also not only about how long someone has been around, but also how well we 'know' them based on activity here
08:45:21<@arkiver>however final decision on ArchiveBot stuff is for JAA
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09:16:08<h2ibot>Memory 001 edited List of websites excluded from the Wayback Machine/Partial exclusions (+17, realized i wrote 2018 instead of 2019, due to…): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=60462&oldid=60448
09:16:09<h2ibot>John123521 edited Deathwatch (+0, /* 2024 */ fix typo): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=60463&oldid=60449
09:16:10<h2ibot>John123521 edited Alive... OR ARE THEY (+836, /* Endangered */): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=60464&oldid=60368
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09:34:02<theexit8>I've been in the warrior-specific IRC channels a few times to report issues and share error logs, though these were under the randomly generated Webuser###### usernames.
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09:34:43<theexit8>I'm happy to stick around a chat for a while, but if running a pipeline is on an exclusively "we-have-to-know-you-a-lot" basis and I don't qualify then I'm also happy to just leave it that and run warriors only. Up to JAA to decide, I suppose
09:52:36<@JAA>Hi theexit8, yeah, I was going to reply the other night, but you had disconnected. What the others said is accurate. Also, regarding uptime, 95% is nowhere near enough for AB. It has very peculiar requirements, and emergencies/outages are always a headache. As the wiki says, if the machine can't be reliably up continuously for several months at a time, it's not suitable.
10:00:21<theexit8>Alright, fair enough. Many thanks for answering anyways, and may you all take care in the meantime!
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14:18:00<tmg1|michelson>justauser: what happens? what is the error?
14:21:35<tmg1|michelson>or is it just simply not on the list?
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14:39:44<Godzfire>Hey pokechu22 I saw the production wiki came off Dashboard, I'm guessing it finished?
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15:51:43<justauser>tmg1|michelson: Cloudflare blocks, custom 403s, "can't reach host" from SPN...
15:54:34<justauser>https://nitter.poast.org/ is additionally excluded.
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17:53:15<pokechu22>Godzfire: Yeah, it finished: https://archive.org/details/wiki-productionmusic.fandom.com-20260210 - I'll start an archivebot job soon
18:28:15<Godzfire>pokechu22 thank you. Is there someplace that shows the status like the Wikibot Dashboard did?
18:28:38<pokechu22>It will show up on http://archivebot.com/ when I start it - I'll ping you when I do
18:29:29<Godzfire>Holy shit
18:29:50<justauser>http://ab2f.archivingyoursh.it/pabs-archivebot/dashboard/web/dashboard.html?initialFilter=fandom&showAllHeaders=0&showNicks=1&showPipelines=1&host=archivebot.archivingyoursh.it&port=80
18:29:54<justauser>Try this one.
18:48:19<tmg1|michelson>justauser: excluded how?
18:48:37<tmg1|michelson>there shouldn't be cloudflare blocks i don't think ti's on cloudflare?
18:48:42<tmg1|michelson>it's*
18:48:49<justauser>https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/List_of_websites_excluded_from_the_Wayback_Machine
18:51:27<tmg1|michelson>weird
18:51:31<tmg1|michelson>wonder why it's on that list
18:54:57<pokechu22>Godzfire: job started
18:55:23<pokechu22>hmm, actually, I don't think it's working right; fandom might be blocking us
18:57:00<pokechu22>Seems like -u curl should work... probably
18:57:50<pokechu22>Yeah, looks like it's working now
18:58:17<justauser>Probably owner request.
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20:31:19<Godzfire>pokechu22 so as this thing is crawling, it's sending those pages to wayback at the same time to capture and snapshot?
20:33:48<nicolas17>it's doing its own captures, and when it finishes it will upload them to wayback
20:34:11<Godzfire>I did a full local pull yesterday of the site and it's 11.25gbs. While I can open all the html pages and technically view them, the css/styling doesn't work on them so it looks like crap and the navigation is obviously broke. Hence getting it on Wayback in an actually usable form.
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21:20:09<tmg1|michelson>justauser: apparently poast requested it. nevermind my bad
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21:31:59<h2ibot>Manu edited Discourse/active (+53, Add community.mnt.re): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=60465&oldid=60458
21:33:42<pokechu22>Godzfire: it's downloading locally; web.archive.org/save isn't involved at all. The WARCs archivebot generates get uploaded to archive.org, and then indexed onto web.archive.org, but that generally takes a few days to happen
21:33:59<h2ibot>Manu edited Discourse/archived (+117, Queued community.mnt.re): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=60466&oldid=60442
21:36:59<h2ibot>Manu edited Discourse/archived (+101, Queued discourse.alkemata.com): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=60467&oldid=60466
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21:43:00<h2ibot>Manu edited Discourse/archived (+105, Queued forum-playground.knime.com): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=60468&oldid=60467
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21:52:01<h2ibot>Manu edited Discourse/archived (+100, Queued forum.airgradient.com): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=60469&oldid=60468
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22:09:13<pokechu22>Hmm, cloudflare seems to have changed the text on their antibot screen (at least on https://www.smwcentral.net/ - though they may have customized it)
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23:33:33<@OrIdow6>I am thinking of trying to massively refactor the Dev pages on the wiki
23:33:40<@OrIdow6>Not sure yet the details, I'll see as I go
23:33:49<@OrIdow6>But much of the information there is outdated
23:36:16<h2ibot>OrIdow6 edited Dev/Seesaw (+736, Rewrite lede, add extremely short history section): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=60470&oldid=59594
23:43:17<h2ibot>OrIdow6 edited Wget with Lua hooks (+2957, Move stuff over from [[Dev/Seesaw]]): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=60471&oldid=59246
23:44:17<h2ibot>OrIdow6 edited Dev/Seesaw (-3331, /* Lua Script */ Move the wget-lua…): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=60472&oldid=60470
23:45:20<nicolas17>I mean
23:45:32<nicolas17>like any wiki, chances are good that https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/Special:Random is outdated/incomplete :D
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23:47:54<klea>time to have nicolas17 spend 32 hours every day to fix [[Special:Random]].
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23:55:22<klea>> But much of the information there is outdated <- Time to add a big red box between every line saying "This may potentially not be up to date"

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