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00:06:51<h2ibot>Cooljeanius edited YouTube (+3, /* Scope */ copyedit): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=60455&oldid=60454
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00:21:30<@Fusl>nicolas17: there are javascript libraries that take care of all of that
00:45:03<Ryz>Not sure this was seen? - https://www.tomshardware.com/peripherals/printers/microsoft-stops-distrubitng-legacy-v3-and-v4-printer-drivers - might be relevant to #windowfixer
00:53:14<@JAA>Yes, please take it there.
00:54:44<Ryz>Already did, wasn't sure if anyone picked it up or responded, thus made the post here~
00:56:43<@JAA>You are in the channel and can see that nobody responded. Project-specific things should be kept in their channels.
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02:49:17<h2ibot>PaulWise edited YouTube (+20, clearer wording): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=60456&oldid=60455
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03:20:21<h2ibot>PaulWise edited Webring (+48, from klea): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=60457&oldid=57728
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09:33:21<Webuser052095>Hi! I wrote a message but idk if it shows up. It's about the Techlore forum.
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10:17:43<@arkiver>do we currently have a good way to archive Twitter? https://www.npr.org/2026/02/07/nx-s1-5704785/state-department-trump-posts-x
10:17:52<@arkiver>> State Department will delete X posts from before Trump returned to office
10:18:00<@arkiver>according to an email i got, it's 40k-60k tweets
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11:40:35<pabs>arkiver: in short, no, but some unsuitable-for-this workarounds are available, details on the wiki
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13:37:28<klea>Is it time yet for another bulk of dripfeed urls onto #jseater?
13:39:45<masterx244|m>Xitter is a bitch because it doesnt really work anymore without login :(
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14:52:05<Yakov>nicolas17: You could serve the captchas over a headless browser and people could solve over novnc
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15:13:18<justauser>!tell Webuser052095 We already saved the Techlore forum.
15:13:18<eggdrop>[tell] ok, I'll tell Webuser052095 when they join next
15:14:30<justauser>pabs, arkiver: I know of a working Nitter instance with no visible bot blocking deployed. Maybe we can carefully point AB to it.
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15:21:20<justauser>Re: https://community.jisc.ac.uk/, sitemap is mere 3Klines, but it's behind attack-mode Cloudflare.
15:26:15<@arkiver>does it work with SPN?
15:26:17<@arkiver>justauser: ^
15:26:24<@arkiver>(this is not -ot material i think)
15:26:37<@arkiver>oh this is #-bs nevermind on that last one :P
15:31:10<justauser>Didn't check, but it's unlikely.
15:31:34<justauser>Oh, you meant Nitter? It does.
15:32:55<@Fusl>anyone here know how to archive all of a docker hub org? JAA?
15:33:46<justauser>Ouch, ratelimited by X right now.
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15:47:46<justauser>https://nitter.tiekoetter.com/ confirmed to work with SPN.
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16:33:56<justauser>Current Grafana projection for OD is three weeks, and we only have about two.
16:34:12<justauser>Is there any magic we could apply to run lower IDs first?
16:35:24<justauser>I'd expect the higher ones to consist of spam.
16:52:41<cruller>I noticed that https://search.yahoo.co.jp/realtime/search/tweet/2020791744565055589 could be a Twitter workaround, although it's probably limited to recent tweets. You'll need to manually create URL lists, but I expect it will work for AB as well.
16:53:06<@arkiver>Fusl: i can look into setting something up if we want to archive docker, is it at risk?
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16:58:33<cruller>The API isn't documented, but searching for “Yahoo!リアルタイム検索 API” yields some unofficial references. For now, it doesn't appear to strictly restrict scraping?
17:04:27<@Fusl>arkiver: less about docker and more about individual repos/orgs
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17:05:10<@Fusl>that being said, if we can set up a project where we can throw org or org/repo into and it grabs everything from the api, including blobs, that would be nice
17:05:43<@Fusl>i tried figuring out if i can just stuff the urls through #archivebot but the blobs urls require setting a bearer token and i cant do that with abot so that didnt work
17:07:22<@arkiver>hmm given the importance of Docker, it would be nice to have that
17:07:55<@arkiver>i believe docker also has/had problems raising money which caused them to create some questionable ideas in the past
17:08:04<@arkiver>maybe this is relatively easy, let me check
17:09:21<h2ibot>Klea edited Discourse/active (+65, Add forum.kontrabanda.net from…): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=60458&oldid=60386
17:10:05<@Fusl>arkiver: it is relatively easy, i managed to get most of it working using a simple bash script and curl
17:10:23<@Fusl>lmk if you need the required references to make it work using wget-lua
17:11:02<@arkiver>if you can post that script, that would speed thing up yet
17:11:15<@arkiver>though i would still confirm it and see about other/edge cases
17:11:59<@arkiver>Fusl: we have a channel apparently, #failwhale
17:12:00<@arkiver>let's continue in there
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17:57:10<nicolas17>opendiary ETA 3.6 months (May 30 01:27)
17:58:14<@arkiver>that last change going to ?p= did not make things better
17:58:18<@arkiver>i'll change it back likely
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18:01:38<@imer>weird.
18:08:38<nicolas17>what's the rtt?
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18:44:33<Grizzler>Hey all! Just a quick question. I've been noticing rate limiting messages from my warrior instance for the past few days. Happens with every project I select. Is this admin-imposed, or could there be an issue with my instance?
18:56:11<tmg1|michelson>Grizzler: that's normal imho
18:56:32<tmg1|michelson>[Grizzler: at least in the usgovernment / voiceofamerica / opendiary projects]
18:57:49<Grizzler>I usually stick to ArchiveTeam’s Choice. Just don't want to sit here and waste what would otherwise be productive time! 😅
18:58:45<tmg1|michelson>justauser: does https://nitter.poast.org work?
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19:42:41<TheoH7>I will ask the organisation responsible whether they would consider turning off the Cloudflare under attack mode setting for https://community.jisc.ac.uk. I sadly think there's little hope as they are denying simple export requests from internal teams, but I will ask.
19:46:03<TheoH7>If anyone feels that the content on this site is valuable, I'd advise reaching out to help [at] jisc.ac.uk as JISC are the only people with the power to make archival possible.
19:47:00<TheoH7>If they get many requests, maybe they will listen. The site provides plenty of historical context which is not available elsewhere.
19:48:30<ericgallager>my IRC client interpreted the period at the end as part of the URL; pasting it here without it in case anyone else's does that too: https://community.jisc.ac.uk
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19:51:02<TheoH7>For some context, if people haven't seen the intro from this morning this site contains comprehensive documentation behind plenty of services aimed at the UK academic community, and is being shut down in 7 days with no export. This was only announced last week.
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20:13:26<Yakov>why doesn't archiveteam host their own instance of nitter?
20:14:38<ericgallager>probably because it's difficult
20:15:07<Yakov>why would it be difficult?
20:16:48<klea>twitter would likely block it.
20:17:49<Yakov>theoretical idea: use warrior clients as twitter proxies
20:17:58<nexussfan>Maybe
20:18:04<klea>also, it would need to be a public instance, or limited by IP, the first would mean manually having the IPs of every AB pipeline and whitelisting them. And the data wouldn't end up in the WBM properly, since it'd be on a domain not twitter.com/x.com.
20:18:30<Yakov>True, still better than a random nitter instance imo
20:19:04<klea>Yakov: That's likely something called a DPoS project, where the Warriors also try to get the post, and do the entire process of archival of an item (work unit) by themselves. Which might work better if the project actually gets the correct WM urls.
20:19:33<klea>Yeah, the other slight issue is infra setup would mean someone has to set it up, and if you do the whitelisting thing, only someone who knows the IPs of pipelines could.
20:22:03<Yakov>I'm not talking about a typical DPoS project where the warrior makes the warc since that wouldn't work because you need JS to load tweets properly so X can't rlly be SPN'able even if you had auth (SPN2 api lets you do that), that's why i suggested a nitter server since the backend does the work for pulling the tweets, but the twist would be warrior
20:22:03<Yakov>as a middleman proxy
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20:25:06<Guest>im out of the loop in this convo, but i think what Yakov is trying to say is SPN -> AT hosted nitter -> round-robin warriors -> X/Twitter
20:25:21<Yakov>Yep
20:25:30<@JAA>We had such an instance at one point. That was before Twitter started requiring accounts.
20:25:39<nexussfan>Not sure how that would work with warrior though
20:26:42<Yakov>Guest: Although I'd swap out SPN with an h2ibot queuing bot
20:26:45<@JAA>Or rather, 'accounts' were already a thing at the time, but you could make 'guest accounts' fairly easily. That's no longer a thing; you need real accounts now as I understand it, which complicates everything.
20:27:58<Yakov>How bad is the per account ratelimit? I'd presume it isn't as strict as long as it doesn't seem autonomous and it rotates over a few accounts at time?
20:29:19<Guest>i dont even think its about rate limiting, its about making sure each account is "clean" (like the clean ip check in pipeline.py). e.g is an account >18, can it view content in certain regions, is [insert user] blocking them
20:35:09<klea>oh, I asked a while ago about making a h2ibot queueing bot for SPN, but IIRC arkiver was against using SPN lots, but I guess having the SPN2 api features available on a bot would be neat.
20:39:02<@arkiver>klea: isn't AB enough?
20:39:24<klea>AB doesn't allow sending cookies.
20:44:20<pokechu22>More specifically, AB keeps whatever cookies the site sets, but you can't initialize a job with arbitrary cookies
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21:07:00<ericgallager>See solution to https://github.com/zedeus/nitter/issues/983#issuecomment-2623517365
21:07:14<ericgallager>"Running an instance is now both difficult and expensive" according to the dev
21:09:50<ericgallager>https://github.com/zedeus/nitter/discussions/1212#discussioncomment-12106540 "If you're interested in hosting a public instance I'd be happy to discuss this privately."
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