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00:35:00<pabs>re wget, triplecamera|m posted about getting that fixed https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-wget/2026-02/msg00000.html
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00:46:52<pabs>reading that warc-specifications#106 is wild... there is already a QUIC 2 being worked on...
00:47:00<pabs>I wonder if just saving the raw data in pcap format with a sidecar for TLS keys etc might be better than continually updating the WARC spec as new protocols are born :)
00:49:46<h2ibot>Klea edited Fortress of Solitude (+269, Indicate that FOS is now dead): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=60426&oldid=58893
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01:23:55<h2ibot>PaulWise edited The WARC Ecosystem (+18, update wget status): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=60428&oldid=60275
02:45:22<triplecamera|m>pabs: Thank you for forwarding this
02:47:20<triplecamera|m>The mail archives are problematic - it says that the archives are refreshed every 15 minutes, but it took a day for my mail to appear in there
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03:03:06<cruller>Is there a de jure standard for low-layer communication capture?
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04:11:53<pabs>pcap is the standard for raw network capture
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04:12:41<pabs>and wireshark is the most popular thing for capture
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05:03:52<nicolas17>pabs: I think there is a standard block type for embedding TLS keys inside the pcap
05:04:26<pabs>looks like it yeah https://wiki.wireshark.org/TLS
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05:04:45<nicolas17>I don't remember if it's in .pcap or only in .pcapng
05:05:03<pabs>looks like the latter https://wiki.wireshark.org/TLS#user-content-embedding-decryption-secrets-in-a-pcapng-file
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06:05:01<pleasearchive>Please archive: http://upload.geminight.com/
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06:33:48<c3manu>https://xeiaso.net/notes/2026/zendesk-popped/
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07:31:29<Barto>https://tech.slashdot.org/story/26/02/05/1729259/automattic-and-the-internet-archive-team-up-to-fight-link-rot nice
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07:59:09<cruller>I see. I don't think pcap is as "de jure" as warc, but it's still quite satisfactory.
08:04:02<cruller>I wonder if IA also uses Wireshark for archiving something (I can't think of a specific example)
08:07:23<cruller>Someday, I'll look into how many pcap(ng) files are uploaded to IA and similar sites. Probably not that many.
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09:11:58<pleasearchive> Please archive: http://upload.geminight.com/
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10:37:50<klea>re #archiveteam-dev, I agree, DPoS seems overkill, should I just request queuing via AB, and have it be a !a < with ignores for other pages so it also grabs external links, or should we later get the outlinks via #//?
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12:20:30<HP_Archivist>JAA: Thank you for the explanations. So, then if not Webrecorder and warcio, what do you suggest to use?
12:21:04<HP_Archivist>I considered using Perma.cc again. But honestly, that's not a sustainable way, since token-based/paid.
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14:09:17<justauser>triplecamera|m: SourceForge Developer Web - https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/SourceForge#Developer_Web_removal_(2025)
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16:17:56<h2ibot>Cruller edited Deathwatch (+778, /* 2026 */ Add KARATE PRESS, JOGMEC sites, and…): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=60429&oldid=60406
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18:47:16<h2ibot>Manu edited Discourse/archived (+92, Queued amcforum.wiki): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=60430&oldid=60425
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18:50:18<h2ibot>Manu edited Discourse/archived (+100, discourse.mozilla.org has been run before): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=60431&oldid=60430
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19:59:31<h2ibot>Cooljeanius edited Fortress of Solitude (+0, it's "its" not "it's"): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=60439&oldid=60426
20:02:56<klea>ericgallager: Thanks for the spelling correction. If you find more mistakes I make even if they're on IRC (or if someone does), please don't mind to tell me my mistakes.
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20:12:44<Webuser668260>I've recently become enamoured with the site Glitter-Graphics.com. It's a time capsule of MySpace graphics basically, with similar profiles as well. It's still up, but since it's basically run by a single guy, I worry that it might eventually be lost. Anyone who has any advice on how to approach the admin on preservation?
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20:23:00<pokechu22>Webuser668260: It looks like Ryz did an archivebot job for it in July 2025: https://archive.fart.website/archivebot/viewer/job/20250728185257xeozi
20:25:21<pokechu22>so, most of the content should already be preserved on web.archive.org
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20:32:52<Webuser668260>pokechu22 That's great! But it should be stated that not all the images are accessible without an account.
20:33:26<Webuser668260>Because some are marked NSFW and stuff.
20:33:46<Webuser668260>It's not normally possible to create a new account now either, because they've had issues with bots. They request that you send an email if you want one. It takes a while to get a response, but they actually have a secret registration URL now.
20:34:37<Webuser668260>I don't feel good about sharing it directly here though...
20:34:49<Webuser668260>Like, this would end up in the public logs.
20:35:19<Webuser668260>Anyway, really happy to hear that it's somewhat already preserved at least.
20:35:19<pokechu22>We generally don't archive stuff that's behind an account wall (unless it's something where the site specifically says "if you're a guest, log in with username/password guest/guest")
20:35:29<Webuser668260>Oh I see...
20:35:40<pokechu22>Can you link one of the NSFW images? I'm curious how it behaves when you're not signed in
20:35:47<Webuser668260>Hold on lemme see if I can find one.
20:36:18<Webuser668260>https://www.glitter-graphics.com/search?tags=cutting
20:36:25<Webuser668260>At the row farthest down you can see one.
20:36:32<Webuser668260>It doesn't link anywhere, it just shows "This image has been filtered".
20:37:14<Webuser668260>Do you know if this Archivebot job took the profiles too? Because they're really nice as well.
20:37:44<nicolas17>https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.glitter-graphics.com/
20:37:47<pokechu22>It should have found any that were linked from a public image
20:38:02<Webuser668260>Alright.
20:38:34<Webuser668260>I was thinking about asking the admin to considering preserving the site in some form if it has be closed down. Just sending him an email about it. But just really anxious and I felt like talking to people who know what they're doing.
20:38:49<Webuser668260>I was first thinking about basically scraping the site myself but that would be kinda rude. Even if I make sure to rate-limit myself.
20:38:56<Webuser668260>So I wanted to ask about it first.
20:39:35<Webuser668260>Also the images have tags that aren't publically accessible other than by searching. Would be cool if we could just get a database dump from him.
20:39:45<Webuser668260>I just really don't want this treasure trove to be lost.
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20:50:37<h2ibot>Klea edited Vimeo (+16, Add irc channel): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=60440&oldid=54427
20:55:21<Webuser668260>In case I have to go offline, I'll check the chat logs tomorrow.
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22:16:35<@JAA>HP_Archivist: I didn't catch the background of the question, but if you need a complex browser-driven archival, warcprox is probably the only option currently. Also saving the pages as SingleFile (or SingleFileZ) and/or screenshots may be useful for quick access.
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