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00:06:04<pabs>sounded like no replacement
00:06:14<pabs>"The kernel bugzilla server, Ryabitsev said, is ""semi-dead"", and has been for several years. He suggested that the time has come to simply get rid of it. That server is running bugzilla 5.2; upstream is up to 5.9, but there is no upgrade path to get there. If the bugzilla server is removed, he said, he would find a way to keep the existing history around, but it would not be possible to create new entries. There did not seem to be any opposition
00:06:15<pabs>to removing the bugzilla server (which has never been all that extensively used in the kernel community), but it will not happen immediately."
00:06:29<pabs>thats the only mention of it in the article
00:06:57<pabs>ah also a summary from the kernel.org infra guy https://lwn.net/ml/all/20251209-roaring-hidden-alligator-068eea@lemur
00:07:21<pabs>from there:
00:07:37<pabs>"question remains with what to replace bugzilla, but it's a longer discussion topic that I don't want to raise here; it may be a job for the bugspray bot that can extend the two-way bridge functionality to multiple bug tracker frameworks"
00:07:51<that_lurker>ok. Then it would be nice if they would allow AB job with high concurrency to run through before the deletion :-)
00:09:10<pabs>yeah, asked for that. JAA saved kernel.bugzilla.org already in 2023, but there will be some newer comments/bugs/attachments I guess
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00:35:14<nicolas17>yes this seems worth contacting
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00:55:13<h2ibot>PaulWise edited Twitter (+516, add more details): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=58625&oldid=58559
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01:15:55<@arkiver>hexagonwin: bufftoon will be archived a bit close to the deadline
01:16:02<@arkiver>those expiring images are annoying
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01:46:39<pabs>TIL a BitTorrent based archiving group: https://sciop.net/
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02:38:08<hexagonwin>arkiver: thanks. my attempt with browsertrix gave me 150GB in 13hrs and we got 26hrs so i guess it should be ok. please let me know if theres anything i can help
02:38:56<@JAA>arkiver: Yeah, I think we can run that Amino stuff through AB, probably in a few parts in parallel. I'll take a closer look in a bit.
02:43:21<@JAA>pabs: Sounds good, thanks!
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03:12:45<azalea_sh_>https://transfer.archivete.am/10ilVi/amino_semi.md
03:12:46<eggdrop>inline (for browser viewing): https://transfer.archivete.am/inline/10ilVi/amino_semi.md
03:14:00<azalea_sh_>2 Parts, decompressed ~1.9G containing 22,569,396 URLs deduped against the previous URLs file (hopefully)
03:16:10<azalea_sh_>4am moment, ill go sleep now but that should be all from the public and semi public subsets at least
03:17:04<azalea_sh_>also sciop really does look interesting, i thought of putting the DB dump on there but registering gave me a 5XX so i guess ill just dump it somewhere else some time
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03:25:15<nicolas17>I was going to suggest shuffling the list before sending it to archivebot so that the requests are more scattered across the subdomains
03:25:30<nicolas17>but 85% of URLs are in pm1, so probably no point...
03:27:04<nicolas17>arkiver: should I AB?
03:27:14<nicolas17>being 22M URLs maybe I need to split it?
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03:48:46<nicolas17>JAA: should I feed this aminoapps list into AB?
03:49:59<@JAA>nicolas17: Not as is, I think. See above, I'll take a closer look.
03:50:43<nicolas17>well it's gzipped, would need to merge and decompress (maybe recompress with zstd), but other than that...
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04:37:11<TheTechRobo>Maybe transfer should have some form of abuse@ email address listed on the site so the phishing links can be reported by people who aren't part of AT?
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04:38:58<that_lurker>There is a very nice and totally working contact us section :-P
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05:10:55<h2ibot>PaulWise edited Obstacles (+132, BasedFlare): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=58626&oldid=58584
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06:08:03<h2ibot>Calmevening edited Android Applications (-1): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=58627&oldid=58492
06:08:04<h2ibot>Calmevening edited Android Applications (+1): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=58628&oldid=58627
06:16:04<h2ibot>Cooljeanius edited Social network (+10, /* List of social networks */ sometimes people…): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=58629&oldid=44189
06:21:04<h2ibot>Cooljeanius edited Social network (+129, /* List of social networks */ add some more): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=58630&oldid=58629
06:27:05<h2ibot>Cooljeanius edited Dealing with Cloudflare (+200, link to…): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=58631&oldid=58182
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07:30:04<mannie>https://www.reddit.com/r/Archiveteam/comments/1pmw0fv/urgent_chinese_catholic_archive_facing_imminent/
07:30:31<mannie>Is there already taken action to preserve this?
07:30:45<mannie>If need I can run it with archivebot.
07:32:11<pokechu22>It looks like nothing has been started for that yet. I can't tell quite how big it is though - hopefully archivebot would be enough
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07:33:11<pokechu22>hmm, but https://www.wanyouzhenyuan.cn/index.php?m=music&c=album&id=97 uses e.g. https://www.chinacath.cn/api/v2/track/783 too
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07:34:47<pokechu22>That's probably going to need some extra work because https://www.wanyouzhenyuan.cn/index.php?m=music&c=album&id=97 uses e.g. https://www.chinacath.cn/api/v2/track/783 - but an archivebot job should at least get things started.
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09:20:47<hexagonwin>could someone run this url on archivebot? the company got bankrupt: https://shop.buyzle.co.kr/int/communication/CompanyInfo.do?_method=initial
09:21:36<hexagonwin>it's an online shopping mall website, i don't think the whole website <https://www.buyzle.co.kr/malls/index.html#> is really worth grabbing
09:25:23<hexagonwin>maybe this announcement section <https://shop.buyzle.co.kr/communication/NewsListMgt.do?_method=form> is also worth grabbing for context, but it's not static :(
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10:58:13<cruller>Slashdot Japan, which shut down, has been drop-caught and fake sites have been created by abusing its archives :(
11:04:55<cruller>I can find only Japanese articles about it. https://internet.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/yajiuma/2071555.html
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11:11:47<hexagonwin>i saved that buyzle.co.kr with browsertrix and here's its wacz, does someone know how to extract all the urls in it so it can be run in archivebot?
11:11:49<hexagonwin>https://transfer.archivete.am/vUl7L/interpark-manual-20251216105204-f64351e2-a48.wacz
11:11:49<eggdrop>inline (for browser viewing): https://transfer.archivete.am/inline/vUl7L/interpark-manual-20251216105204-f64351e2-a48.wacz
11:13:39<hexagonwin>cruller both srad.jp and sourceforge.jp seems to show a generic domain parking page for me
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11:15:30<cruller>Slashdot Japan is the predecessor of srad.jp
11:15:59<cruller>Btw, I can extract the urls now.
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11:19:07<cruller>Hmm, this is a bit different from the one made by Archiveweb.page. But it doesn't seem too difficult.
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11:27:43<cruller>I did just extract it, extract "index.cdx"es, and combine them into https://transfer.archivete.am/inline/e4ZWg/merged-index.cdx
11:43:34<cruller>Extract URLs starting with http, and dedupe. https://transfer.archivete.am/inline/15LXRG/urls.txt
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11:53:14<azalea_sh__>Hey there! Just noticed that the URLs were put to AB, thanks a bunch!
11:53:25<cruller>It's interesting that ArchiveWeb.page can't load interpark-manual-20251216105204-f64351e2-a48.wacz, but ReplayWeb.page can.
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12:03:09<cruller>For a small wacz file, you can load it into replayweb.page, go to the Resources tab, scroll all the way down, and copy everything. However, be careful with “__wb_method=POST”.
12:08:46<cruller>By the way, I once tried crawling a site with 1,000-10,000 pages using Brozzler, but it didn't work out and I gave up. I haven't even tried since then.
12:25:41<hexagonwin>sad :( a reliable browser based crawler would be very useful for quick grabs
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12:34:06<h2ibot>Cruller edited Alive... OR ARE THEY (+114, Add Kernel.org Bugzilla and 万有真原, Remove OSDN): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=58632&oldid=58623
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12:51:51<cruller>JAA: Is the edit by 'Brad' still pending? May I help you?
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12:56:12<cruller>I've partially undone a Brad's edit (https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Deathwatch&oldid=57769), and tomorrow is my day off.
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12:57:47<cruller>Should sites listed in https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Deathwatch#Pining_for_the_Fjords_ (Dying) be moved to the appropriate section after the deadline? Of course it would be better to do so, but out of proportion to the benefit.
12:59:39<cruller>Ugh, machine translater somtimes inject (extra) spaces.
13:05:12<cruller>But the Manual translator usually makes mistakes.
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13:05:31<Webuser614683>Is anyone trying to archive Guilded before it shuts down on the 19th?
13:07:48<cruller>hexagonwin: You can also test https://github.com/iipc/warcaroo
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13:11:40<azalea_sh__>Webuser614683: what would it take to archive guilded? Is there an accessible index of servers there? And do you know what the ratelimits look like? If so, I could write a scraper probably
13:13:11<Webuser614683>Best way to find servers would most likely manually (or automatically idk the Roblox ratelimits) communities which display guilded https://www.roblox.com/communities/9250955/Plehlowlas-Studio
13:13:11<Webuser614683>I also have ZERO clue what the ratelimits are
13:13:41<Webuser614683>The search bar on https://www.guilded.gg/explore/servers/overview seems to show most servers also you just got to search keywords for them
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13:15:51<azalea_sh__>I can definitely check later when I'm home
13:16:57<azalea_sh__>I'll log off IRC on this client because it sucks and I'm in a train (thank you Deutsche Bahn), i'll Check the channel logs later though
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13:23:09<Webuser614683>azalea_sh_ https://www.guilded.gg/docs/api/http_rate_limits
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13:29:49<cruller>Webuser614683 azalea_sh__ : Please note that discussions about guilded may also be taking place in #robloxd. (idk though)
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14:17:45<BlackWinnerYoshi>Hello, can someone queue <https://armchairhistory.tv/> to ArchiveBot? Site shutting down c. Jan 2026 or earlier per <https://www.youtube.com/post/Ugkx_2hHChWQYIbEVjPeSvz1roG1s0iUaKfR>; videos are paywalled, but they can be retrieved from their respective YT channels (they're simply ad-free on this site), but it might be worth it anyway for metadata
14:17:45<BlackWinnerYoshi>(higher quality thumbnails etc.). I sent this to #archivebot earlier but the request got lost
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14:27:10<klea>oh nice Brad's edit got approved so we can try to undo, or should i leave it fully up to you cruller?
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14:36:33<h2ibot>Klea edited Deathwatch (+62, Roblox made Community Walls read-only): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=58633&oldid=58619
14:37:21<klea>it'd be a potentially good idea to start trying to save community walls' data with AB if possible now that no more content can be added
14:40:34<h2ibot>Klea edited Deathwatch (+0, I put datetime wrong): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=58634&oldid=58633
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15:36:27<@arkiver>i'll bring up a tiny project for bufftoon
15:36:38<@arkiver>imer: are you around for a target maybe? it'll just be a few hundred GB at most
15:37:30<@arkiver>or else i will just put it on the #// target i think
16:01:50<@imer>arkiver: i am, yes
16:03:35<@arkiver>imer: thank you :)
16:03:44<@arkiver>the tracker if bufftoon, and site name 버프툰
16:03:51<@arkiver>i think we'd have archiveteam_bufftoon_
16:03:56<@arkiver>bufftoon_
16:04:02<@arkiver>Archive Team 버프툰 (Bufftoon):
16:04:16<@arkiver>project starting in an hour or so (i think no dedicated channel needed)
16:06:06<@imer>arkiver: target's added
16:06:15<@imer>brb
16:06:19<@arkiver>thanks imer starting in a bit
16:08:47<h2ibot>Justauser edited Dealing with Cloudflare (+43): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=58635&oldid=58631
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16:14:43<BlackWinnerYoshi>Can someone queue <https://armchairhistory.tv/> to ArchiveBot? Site shutting down c. Jan 2026 or earlier <https://www.youtube.com/post/Ugkx_2hHChWQYIbEVjPeSvz1roG1s0iUaKfR> it might be worth to archive for metadata (higher quality thumbnails etc.), the paywalled videos are just ad-free versions of YT videos
16:15:48<h2ibot>That lurker edited Dealing with Cloudflare (+140, Add Buttflare-- as a non working method :-P): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=58636&oldid=58635
16:18:47<klea>Buttflare--
16:18:47<eggdrop>[karma] 'Buttflare' now has -224 karma!
16:18:48<h2ibot>Cooljeanius edited Alive... OR ARE THEY (+43, /* Alarm */ link to [[Bugzilla]]): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=58637&oldid=58632
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16:21:49<h2ibot>Cooljeanius edited Alive... OR ARE THEY (+232, /* Alarm */ update about Giphy): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=58638&oldid=58637
16:28:50<h2ibot>Cooljeanius edited Alive... OR ARE THEY (+77, /* Alarm */ copyedit some more): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=58639&oldid=58638
16:31:50<h2ibot>Cooljeanius edited Dealing with Cloudflare (+13, /* What doesn't work */ formatting): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=58640&oldid=58636
16:33:21<egallager>I got an email from Meetup dot com threatening to delete my account due to inactivity, so I went to archive it with SPN, but it just hit the login page... anyone have any experience with archiving Meetup?
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16:36:16<justauser>You can pass cookies to SPN IIRC, but I'd guess that "Print to PDF" is your friend here.
16:39:15<justauser>(I wish MNBot exposed more of it, extended SPN2 is painful to use)
16:40:48klea wonders how to give a cookie to SPN
16:41:24<justauser>https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Nsv52MvSjbLb2PCpHlat0gkzw0EvtSgpKHu4mk0MnrA/
16:41:55<klea>loh you have to use the api manually?
16:42:18<justauser>So, just as I said, "extended SPN2 is painful to use".
16:42:22<klea>oh
16:42:26<klea>thanks for the docsa
16:42:39<klea>is that document archived?
16:42:45<justauser>Should be.
16:43:15<justauser>It's regularly posted here and on #internetarchive, but not anywhere on the wiki AFAICT.
16:43:37<justauser>And I definitely used SPN on it.
16:45:23<klea>oh ok
17:41:00<h2ibot>Klea edited Roblox (+195, Add some uncopylocked places infobox with 2 IA…): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=58641&oldid=57971
17:48:01<h2ibot>Klea edited Template:IA id (+212, /* Documentation */ Copy [[User:TheTechRobo]]'s…): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=58642&oldid=57459
17:49:01<h2ibot>Klea edited Template:IA id (+2, s/locked/private/): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=58643&oldid=58642
17:49:02<h2ibot>Klea edited Template:IA id (+27, add includeonly to not render the template on…): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=58644&oldid=58643
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17:59:07<nicolas17>PSA when reading about shut down dates:
17:59:16<nicolas17>January 2026 is closer than it appears
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18:20:34<DigitalDragons>Is there anything that is being worked on for getting the safesearch flag on transfer.archivete.am removed (on the "owner appeals" side), or do we just kinda report safe and hope?
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18:23:05<h2ibot>Calmevening edited The WARC Ecosystem (+97, /* Tools */): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=58645&oldid=58561
18:29:06<h2ibot>Calmevening edited The WARC Ecosystem (+34, added info to WarcProxy, WarcMITMProxy): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=58646&oldid=58645
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18:31:07<h2ibot>Calmevening edited The WARC Ecosystem (+14, update grab-site info): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=58647&oldid=58646
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18:54:10<h2ibot>Nintendofan885 edited Twitter (+109, add the IA project): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=58648&oldid=58625
18:55:21<@JAA>klea, cruller: Yeah, I'll aprove Brad's edit. It'll appear here shortly (if there's no conflict).
18:55:35<@JAA>Of course there's a conflict.
18:58:10<h2ibot>Calmevening edited The WARC Ecosystem (+174, added info to WarcMITMProxy, WarcProxy): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=58649&oldid=58647
19:00:11<h2ibot>DigitalDragon edited The WARC Ecosystem (+176, add warcforhumans): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=58650&oldid=58649
19:03:11<h2ibot>JustAnotherArchivist edited The WARC Ecosystem (-104, Browsertrix and Browsertrix Crawler inheriting…): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=58651&oldid=58650
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20:02:07<@arkiver>uploading may be interrupted due to a problem being investigated
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20:08:36<nicolas17>uploading what where
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20:09:36<@arkiver>so, looks like we had data loss over the past two days due to a missing check in the code that uploads to IA
20:10:27<@arkiver>that means we'll be requeuing items from the past two days
20:11:12<pokechu22>For which projects?
20:11:28<@arkiver>all of them
20:11:33<@arkiver>all Warrior projects
20:11:38<@arkiver>ArchiveBot is fine
20:17:47<that_lurker>Good it was noticed. Let's hope there will be no permanent data loss with reques.
20:18:30<@arkiver>there will likely be some
20:18:48<@arkiver>the last bits of data from #jjang0n may be a victim here CC hexagonwin
20:22:58<nicolas17>jfc
20:25:34<nicolas17>IA was returning errors and the targets misinterpreted it as success and deleted the files?
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21:35:14<NF885>oof :(
21:50:20<NF885>wait, what about projects with backlogged uploads?
21:50:51<NF885>e.g. the YouTube ones are only up to November 30
21:52:53<NF885>are those the items it would've tried to upload during the time also lost?
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21:54:48<NF885>(typo with 'those')
21:55:29<@imer>yes
21:56:03<NF885>oof :(
21:56:42<datechnoman>This is terribles news but it happens :(
21:56:57<datechnoman>Atleast it was identified early on and not weeks
22:02:08<NF885>I originally thought the script just needed a restart or something when I sent https://irclogs.archivete.am/archiveteam-bs/2025-12-15#l72553fbf about the uploads yesterday
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22:13:55<egallager>BitBucket deletions incoming: https://community.atlassian.com/forums/Bitbucket-articles/Bitbucket-cleanup-of-free-unused-workspaces-what-you-need-to/ba-p/3144063
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23:08:51<h2ibot>Brad edited In The Media (+99, Added grokipedia): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=58653&oldid=57854
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23:28:53<h2ibot>Arkiver uploaded File:Bufftoon-icon.png: https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?title=File%3ABufftoon-icon.png
23:29:25<hexagonwin|m>arkiver: oh crap :( i hope most of them are fine...
23:29:39<hexagonwin|m>is bufftoon going well? less than 6hrs left..
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23:32:18<@arkiver>hexagonwin|m: nearly starting
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23:32:55<hexagonwin|m>i'll be away for quite some time :/ will be back 3hrs latet
23:33:00<hexagonwin|m>later
23:33:03<@arkiver>hexagonwin|m: the last few items queued for jjang0u are likely gone
23:33:10<@arkiver>but that is a very very small percentage
23:33:18<@arkiver>i would still consider it saved, but a little note on the wiki would be good
23:33:54<h2ibot>Arkiver uploaded File:Bufftoon shutdown notice.jpg: https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?title=File%3ABufftoon%20shutdown%20notice.jpg
23:33:55<h2ibot>Arkiver uploaded File:Bufftoon screenshot.png: https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?title=File%3ABufftoon%20screenshot.png
23:34:18<@arkiver>hexagonwin|m: i uploaded some images around bufftoon ^ can you please make a wikipage later?
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23:38:41<hexagonwin|m>sure, will do during the weekend
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23:59:55<NF885>two Blogger items have just uploaded

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