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01:01:05<Lord_Nightmare>ok, so the rebecca heineman stuff needs to be done, now that she's passed
01:01:16<Lord_Nightmare>if it hasn't been fed to AB already
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01:02:09<Lord_Nightmare>I'm assuming the livejournal site is covered by archivebot -i blogs?
01:03:46<pokechu22>Livejournal uses dreamwidth and also has some other weird rate-limiting
01:05:30<cruller>pabs: Thank you for letting me know. For now, I should look into existing approaches before thinking more.
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01:09:20<pabs>cruller: more examples: I often find people who died or company shutdowns on HN in the newest articles firehose, but have no time to read that fully, let alone archive them all, especially doing it fully (like all subdomains, social media etc). sometimes LWN has them too. also Wikipedia has a page of recent deaths, and an AT person has a bot sometimes updating https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Deaths_in_2025
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01:11:19<Lord_Nightmare>how would i get a number of sites added to that list?
01:11:47<Lord_Nightmare>rebecca heineman just passed away and has a whole bunch of sites hosted on a vps, which already is having cloudflare/certificate problems
01:12:04<Lord_Nightmare>see backscroll from this morning
01:12:29<Lord_Nightmare>at the very least it includes burgerbecky.com contrabandgames.com deadreckoningstudios.com jaquays.com logicware.com myreflectioncomic.com oldeskuul.com sailorranko.com
01:12:30<pabs>if you have a list of domains, folks here can throw them into #archivebot
01:13:02<Lord_Nightmare>plus several social media accounts: https://burgerbecky.livejournal.com/ https://www.deviantart.com/burgerbecky https://bsky.app/profile/burgerbecky.bsky.social https://x.com/burgerbecky/ http://www.fanfiction.net/~burgerbecky and https://www.linkedin.com/in/burgerbecky
01:13:02<eggdrop>nitter: https://nitter.net/burgerbecky/
01:13:40<Lord_Nightmare>i'm somewhat less worried about the social media and moreso about the sites she hosted herself
01:13:55<pabs>many subdomains on those sites?
01:14:34<pabs>looks like balrog did burgerbecky.com
01:14:43<Lord_Nightmare>dev.oldeskuul.com is bypassing the broken cloudflare gateway to oldeskuul.com but ends up reaching the site endpoint for myreflectioncomic.com
01:14:57<Lord_Nightmare>apparently oldeskuul.com can be accessed with some DNS hackery
01:15:44<Lord_Nightmare>according to justauser|m although i don't know how they did it
01:16:09<pabs>contrabandgames.com gone already (Cloudflare Invalid SSL certificate Error code 526)
01:16:31<Lord_Nightmare>i suspect the same DNS trick justauser|m used can get through that... somehow.
01:16:43<pabs>(but there was a 2022 AB already)
01:16:59<Lord_Nightmare>sailorranko.com has the ?same? bad SSL cert
01:17:07<pabs>started AB for https://deadreckoningstudios.com/
01:18:03<pabs>started AB for https://jaquays.com/
01:18:16<Lord_Nightmare>becky was bedridden for the last 2 months with aggressive cancer and i guess wasn't able to manually update the SSL certs, and/or whatever automation she used broke
01:18:54<pabs>logicware had a 2023 save, adding another one tho
01:19:12<h2ibot>JustAnotherArchivist edited Goo Blog (+348, Add exact shutdown time announcement): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=57828&oldid=57777
01:19:40<pabs>balrog did https://www.myreflectioncomic.com/
01:20:44<pabs>balrog did http://www.sailorranko.com/
01:21:19<pabs>added the livejournal to https://pad.notkiska.pw/p/archivebot-livejournal
01:22:14<Lord_Nightmare>sadly, becky never got to finish this, as far as I know: https://www.dexerto.com/gaming/interplay-cofounder-reveals-source-code-for-fallout-1-2-thought-lost-still-exists-3189721/
01:22:17<h2ibot>JustAnotherArchivist edited Goo Blog (+122, Shutdown time announcement date; URL template): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=57829&oldid=57828
01:22:49<pabs>AB for https://www.deviantart.com/burgerbecky/about failed :/
01:22:52<Lord_Nightmare>I'm hoping her daughter has digital access to her collection/PCs/etc and can finish that project
01:24:18<h2ibot>PaulWise edited DokuWiki (+194, mention indexer.php too): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=57830&oldid=57218
01:24:23<pabs>bluesky is JSy
01:25:49<pabs>did SPN/archive.today/mnbot and AB !ao for it
01:27:31<nicolas17>so oldeskuul and contrabandgames are inaccessible, the rest is done or in progress?
01:27:43<pabs>twitter is JSy, did archive.today, mnbot and added to the pad https://pad.notkiska.pw/p/archivebot-twitter
01:28:43<pabs>http://www.fanfiction.net/~burgerbecky not easy to do, will create a list
01:30:15<nicolas17>can confirm DNS trickery works for the two inaccessible sites
01:30:56<nicolas17>curl -insecure --resolve contrabandgames.com:443:99.120.219.105 https://contrabandgames.com/
01:31:52<pabs>JAA arkiver - can we put DNS trickery stuff in the WBM?
01:32:25<nicolas17>needs ignoring the bad cert too, but maybe our tooling does that already
01:33:08<nicolas17>pabs: did your AB jobs finish? I only see the livejournal in the dashboard
01:33:43<pabs>yeah already finished
01:33:52<pabs>I didn't start the lj one
01:34:02<@JAA>pabs: Generally no, but I can grab a copy at least.
01:34:39<pabs>nicolas17: /finished should have the recently completed stuff
01:35:01<@JAA>Oh, that's just a single page?
01:35:29<nicolas17>JAA: the broken sites due to expired cert are contrabandgames.com and oldeskuul.com
01:35:47<nicolas17>same IP works for both
01:36:07<@JAA>Ah, two sites. https://contrabandgames.com/ seems to just be a page with a few images.
01:36:34<@JAA>That's the origin IP, I assume?
01:36:53<pabs>oldeskuul.com has a bit more, /humans.txt for eg
01:37:03<nicolas17>I *suspect* it's the origin IP, I got it from dev.oldeskuul.com
01:37:49<nicolas17>I assume oldeskuul.com and dev.oldeskuul.com are hosted on the same server, with the former then using cloudflare in front and dev pointing directly at origin in DNS
01:38:31<pabs>https://www.fanfiction.net/~burgerbecky blocks curl with all AB UAs, and curl with a browser UA, but isn't TLS fingerprinting
01:40:02<pabs>(doing Mnbot, SPN, archive.today at least)
01:40:26<@JAA>Ah, there's a bit more on contrabandgames.com as well.
01:45:01<pabs>did Mnbot, SPN, archive.today for https://www.linkedin.com/in/burgerbecky
01:46:33<pabs>did Mnbot, SPN, archive.today for https://www.deviantart.com/burgerbecky
01:49:48<@JAA>grab-sited https://contrabandgames.com/ and https://oldeskuul.com/ with the DNS override.
01:51:40<Lord_Nightmare>I also missed a social media site: https://www.youtube.com/@RebeccaHeineman
01:51:51<Lord_Nightmare>I probably missed several others
01:52:15<nicolas17>oh I'll do youtube
01:52:23<Lord_Nightmare>I missed facebook.com/burgerbecky as well
01:58:22<pabs>added facebook to AB, Mnbot, SPN, archive.today
01:59:14<pabs>found https://www.instagram.com/burgerbecky/ - doing Mnbot/SPN/archive.today
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02:16:54<nulldata>Added https://macplay.oldeskuul.com/ to AB
02:19:32<Stagnant_>Could someone add this to AB? A 25 year old finnish forum https://www.dvdplaza.fi is shutting down "at the end of 2025". Announcement: https://www.dvdplaza.fi/threads/tiedote-dvdplaza-fi-p%C3%A4%C3%A4tt%C3%A4%C3%A4-toimintansa.97779/
02:20:09<nulldata>Stagnant_ Yeah I can
02:20:16<nulldata>Thanks for the report!
02:20:20<Stagnant_>Thanks!
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02:25:44<pokechu22>arkiver: note that webtoons' sitemap double-escapes & to &amp;amp; which leadds to broken URLs
02:27:20<@JAA>sitemaps are hard++
02:27:21<eggdrop>[karma] 'sitemaps are hard' now has 7 karma!
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02:44:36<pabs>cruller: perhaps we need something like this pipeline: #// or other DPoS to ingest data, process it for shutdown leads, file leads with discovery, discover subdomains/URLs, save front pages, detect software used, pass those on to AB/Mnbot/Wikibot/etc queues, then people click approve
02:45:47<pabs>(and insert some DPoS based human workers too, for captchas, looking at search results etc)
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02:48:38<Lord_Nightmare>another two social medias i missed for rebecca heineman: https://www.reddit.com/u/burgerbecky and https://www.twitch.tv/burgerbecky
02:49:54<nicolas17>no videos on twitch
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02:53:24<DigitalDragons>i think a lot could be accomplished with just a google form equivalent on the wiki/tracker homepage for people to submit dying things to
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03:25:35<h2ibot>Glaps edited List of websites excluded from the Wayback Machine (+27, Added saabnet.com; I wanted to access its…): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=57831&oldid=57805
03:25:36<h2ibot>Brad edited In The Media (+2437, added DiVine link for TechLinked): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=57832&oldid=57090
03:25:37<h2ibot>Brad edited Alive... OR ARE THEY (+242, Added Moerdijk): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=57833&oldid=57789
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15:58:19<hexagonwin|m>hey can we have this site http://terms.co.kr/ on archivebot? nothing urgent, it's just a very old website almost not updated for more than 20yrs now with many interesting stuff.
16:01:17<Unknown>oh really
16:01:40<Unknown>do you like fossiles hexagonwin|m
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16:02:06<hexagonwin|m>Unknown wdym?
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18:09:08<pokechu22>http://terms.co.kr has a SlowAES js challenge so we can't save it with archivebot
18:09:35<pokechu22>JAA might be able to grab-site it though
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18:21:36<justauser|m>Googlebot seems to be allowed?
18:28:10<pokechu22>Looks like that does indeed work, thanks
18:44:40<nicolas17>"We’ve made the hard decision to retire the Framework Discord server to focus our community and growth initiatives on the Framework Community Forum and our social channels."
18:45:11<anarcat>because the community forum is doing so damn good
18:54:09<nicolas17>is this... archivable
19:07:05<h2ibot>DigitalDragon edited Goo Blog (+102, dead): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=57835&oldid=57829
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20:24:27<@JAA>pokechu22: So no need for grab-site with http://terms.co.kr/ ?
20:28:44<pokechu22>JAA: correct, no need
20:28:56<@JAA>Ack, thanks
20:31:06<@JAA>https://dappradar.com/ is shutting down (https://www.web3isgoinggreat.com/?id=dappradar-shuts-down and https://www.web3isgoinggreat.com/archive/2025-11-17-0/0 ) but behind strict Buttflare challenges. Interesting custom challenge page that almost looks like the regular one though.
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23:33:31<pabs>nicolas17: yes, post it on #discard
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