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00:48:37<Guest>will windows 10 isos be archived before EOL?
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01:26:53<pabs>justauser|m: any idea if they capture in WARC or just the DOM/etc snapshot results?
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05:10:19<h2ibot>Pokechu22 edited Web Roasting/ISP Hosting (+100, Wave Cable (dead)): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=57638&oldid=57583
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05:51:25<h2ibot>Nemo bis edited WikiTeam (+186, /* Official WikiTeam tools */ add links to…): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=57639&oldid=55601
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14:31:58<dendory>https://wiki.archiveteam.org/ is giving me an error 503
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14:33:09<justauser|m>pabs: DOM + screenshot.
14:33:44<pabs>not WBM-importable then I guess
14:33:48<justauser|m>A modified one, at that.
14:34:19<justauser|m>Scripts removed, popups closed, ads filtered, collapsibles opened etc.
14:35:18<@arkiver>the wiki indeed seem unhappy right now
14:35:53<justauser|m>alexlehm: ran in AB this April, but probably won't hurt to redo.
14:36:14<justauser|m>Do we have something for Gopher and/or Gemini?
14:36:31<justauser|m>I remember there was some Gemini Wayback Machine...
14:36:41<@arkiver>justauser|m: i believe not
14:37:54<justauser|m>Possible, but questionable: AB via a gateway.
14:38:52<justauser|m>https://gp.vern.cc/gemini/mozz.us/archive/ to poke?
14:40:58<justauser|m>https://gp.vern.cc/gopher/mozz.us/1/wayback
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14:52:43<justauser|m>https://gp.vern.cc/gopher/dimension.sh/ and https://gp.vern.cc/gemini/dimension.sh/ if we go that way.
14:59:36<pabs>justauser|m: re gopher/gemini, see https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/SmolNet
15:00:36<pabs>WARC doesn't support them yet, but there are lots of proxies. I did a few crawls, they died part way. some native crawls in the distant past too, into non-standard WARC format IIRC
15:01:47<justauser|m>Did you type the URL from your memory?
15:01:57<pabs>browser history
15:02:10<pabs>mine goes back to when I started using Firefox :)
15:02:12<pabs>https://web.archive.org/web/20250812202307/https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/SmolNet
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15:04:19<pabs>never let your browser history expire folks
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16:11:22<justauser|m>Err. The run in April wasn't recursive. So definitely start a new one.
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20:08:31<masterx244|m>pabs: following exactly the same logic. my history goes back to 2010. found a small firefox quirk in the meantime, too that you can't scroll fullly down with the scrollbar once history gets "too long". for cases like that when i need to search thru it i got a ugly as hell selfwritten tool that allows me to convert it to a txt for grep & friends
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20:32:57<that_lurker>I think firefox stores the history in an sqlite database, so would be easy to query
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22:13:32<mossssssss9>i have a fun website i need archived lol (aka a website that is already semi-broken (homepage doesn't work), security cert is busted, definitely is going away soon because the owner of the funeral home it's for got got for fraud, but the obituaries section still works if you go directly to an obit link. there's just hundreds and i cant do it
22:13:32<mossssssss9>manually). is that something the archive bot can even do?
22:16:03<mossssssss9>it's just way too many to do on my own - earliest i saw was like 2007 (maybe earlier even), and they were doing obits up until they closed earlier this year. but i wanted to at least try and get it seen by someone
22:18:38<pokechu22>That's probably doable. Can you give some example URLs?
22:18:50<mossssssss9>i was just typing that actually!
22:18:57<mossssssss9>the main website is https://smallandpietrasfuneralhome.com/ (though all of the urls of the obits start with https://smallandpietrasfuneralhome.com/book-of-memories/ ), it seems to be a common site for all of his funeral homes. and here's an article on his charges lol
22:18:57<mossssssss9>https://www.fox61.com/article/news/crime/whats-next-for-connecticut-funeral-home-director-who-allegedly-stole-from-clients/520-8170f26e-e8e0-454f-92cf-3b212a3b0cad
22:21:07<mossssssss9>https://smallandpietrasfuneralhome.com/book-of-memories/170166/elliott-lucinda/obituary.php and https://smallandpietrasfuneralhome.com/book-of-memories/5540091/Sauerhoefer-Abigail/index.php are a few i found. none of the ones i've spot checked (i googled "obituary" with the site lol) have been archived before
22:24:53<pokechu22>hmm, https://smallandpietrasfuneralhome.com/runtime.php?SiteId=14689&NavigatorId=103026 doesn't work though
22:25:30<pokechu22>and more annoyingly, https://smallandpietrasfuneralhome.com/book-of-memories/170166/elliott-lucinda/ works but https://smallandpietrasfuneralhome.com/book-of-memories/170166/ doesn't
22:25:42<mossssssss9>i didnt think it worked at all until i tried on spn and i actually got something!
22:26:20<mossssssss9>i just hate the idea of losing all those obituaries going back so far, if it doesnt work it doesnt work but i wanted to at least try it you know?
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22:28:06<pokechu22>If the only way to find obituaries by google, we'd only be able to get some of the obituaries. It doesn't look like there's an easy way to discover all of them
22:28:37<pokechu22>but it does look like there's a related obituaries link at the top
22:34:47<pokechu22>looks like there's http/https weirdness, and also www doesn't work at all
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22:37:26<mossssssss9>it's annoying that there's no sitemap either that i can find, or i wouldve just linked that lol as annoying as that can be
22:38:46<mossssssss9>i am trying to figure out if there was a page that had a link to all the obituaries, some funeral homes do that
22:39:22<mossssssss9>besides the runtime one i mean
22:39:33<pokechu22>hmm, https://smallandpietrasfuneralhome.com/book-of-memories/170166/elliott-lucinda/bookofmemories/about.php -> memories -> photographic memories links to https://pietrasfh.frontrunnerpro.com/runtime/14689/runtime.php?SiteId=14689&NavigatorId=663443&op=tributephotomemories&ItemId=170166
22:40:26<pokechu22>ugh, but other runtime.php URLs give 404s on that still
22:40:39<mossssssss9>the main page says "Your IMS domain has not been registered with Frontrunner. Please contact your reseller for support."
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22:44:50<mossssssss9>if you go back on the wayback machine there used to be a list of recent services on the front page. unfortunately it looks like it has always been the /runtime.php url for the obituaries. https://smallandpietrasfuneralhome.com/runtime.php?SiteId=14689&NavigatorId=103026&ListType=past was for "past obituaries" over 35 days before when you were
22:44:50<mossssssss9>viewing the site
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22:52:10<mossssssss9>i wish i had found out about this before today, since i wouldve sent it over right away lol. hopefully there is a way to figure it out. if not i appreciate the work youve put in to look for it!
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22:52:43<pokechu22>I'm scraping links from pietrasfh.frontrunnerpro.com and smallandpietrasfuneralhome.com but it's definitely not going to be 100% complete
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22:55:06<mossssssss9>fair honestly whatever you can do is better than what we have now. i have found some success finding obits by googling stuff like "Obituary for 2005 site:https://smallandpietrasfuneralhome.com/" or Anna or insert other term here. (since most obits have "Obituary for" on the website, and years/common names are easy for it). i am sure you already
22:55:06<mossssssss9>knew this though lol but wanted to cover every base i can think of.
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22:55:57<pokechu22>I was mostly doing site:smallandpietrasfuneralhome.com/book-of-memories/ on google and going through those pages, but I'm also going through ones linked on the IA captures of https://smallandpietrasfuneralhome.com/runtime.php?SiteId=14689&NavigatorId=103026&ListType=past
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22:58:00<mossssssss9>you're a godsend honestly :) thank you for doing this
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