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00:58:33<Piratebr1>objection.lol is a webiste with risk?
00:58:53<Piratebr1>because of custom cases Url and character with special links
01:02:20<pabs>it can't be saved with ArchiveBot due to the use of JavaScript, but a while ago I saved the pages with the experimental Mnbot (doesn't go into web.archive.org though)
01:02:33<pabs>you might want to save them with Save Page Now too
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01:14:25<nicolas17>I procrastinated all day and didn't finish my crestron script -_-
01:14:39<nicolas17>let's see if I can tackle that now
01:21:24<Piratebr1>pabs sad
01:21:39<Piratebr1>but good to know
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02:17:40<nicolas17>digging through the JS code trying to figure out where the t= argument came from
02:17:43<nicolas17>turns out
02:17:45<nicolas17>https://docs.crestron.com/en-us/8525/Resources/Scripts/require.config.js
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02:46:10<@JAA>A website called 'UFO Vid Mag' (couldn't find the URL) was apparently abandoned for several years and shut down recently: https://www.autonarcosis.com/2025/03/31/things-come-to-an-end/
02:48:46<BlankEclair>awh ;(
02:48:48<nicolas17>JAA: you said the ../ on crestron's website would be a problem with archivebot, is that because AB doesn't go upwards in the tree?
02:48:48<BlankEclair>:(
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02:51:23<@JAA>nicolas17: Yes. It uses wpull's --no-parent option.
02:51:31<nicolas17>how does that work if I give it a list of multiple URLs?
02:52:53<@JAA>Recursive list jobs are weird and unintuitive. What they fetch is determined not only by the input list but also by retrieval order, which is partially random. That's why !a < isn't documented.
02:53:10<@JAA>It doesn't matter for !ao < because that only fetches the pages in the list anyway.
02:53:22<nicolas17>wait what about resources?
02:53:25<@JAA>--no-parent doesn't matter for page requisites, only links.
02:53:36<nicolas17>oh okay then we're fine
02:53:39<nicolas17><script src="../../Resources/Scripts/jquery.min.js" type="text/javascript">
02:53:53<@JAA>Yeah, that should get fetched, I believe.
03:07:17<pabs>!a < can apparently work with a trick: https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/ArchiveBot#Usage_tips
03:09:06<h2ibot>PaulWise edited ArchiveBot (-44, size limit was a mistake): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=55602&oldid=55564
03:15:27<pabs>JAA: can grab-site set a Googlebot UA? see Medaka's question above
03:15:40<@JAA>pabs: Yes, grab-site can use arbitrary UAs.
03:17:46<pabs>!tell Medaka grab-site can use arbitrary UAs, so that might be able to save k.fc2.com. talk to JAA about it
03:17:46<eggdrop>[tell] ok, I'll tell Medaka when they join next
03:59:08<nicolas17>what happens if a URL list passed to AB has duplicates? and what about url#fragments?
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04:03:07<@JAA>Dupes are ignored, and fragments get stripped unless they're #! fragments, in which case they get converted to an _escaped_fragment_ query parameter instead.
04:08:58<nicolas17>....looks like someone archived this whole site in SPN already?
04:09:52<nicolas17>nope there's some missing pages, ok AB will be worthwhile then
04:11:24<nicolas17>https://transfer.archivete.am/inline/FCR14/docs.crestron.com-8525.txt
04:12:01<nicolas17>annoyingly, I got all the files that make up the client-side search database, but search still won't work because it uses Search.htm?q=term rather than a fragment
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04:24:05<nicolas17>fml
04:24:13<nicolas17>this seemed to be an old school documentation authoring system
04:24:25<nicolas17>I go to its website and the first thing I see
04:24:34<nicolas17>"Al-ready content starts here. Revolutionize how you create and manage documentation with smarter, scalable workflows."
04:25:44<@JAA>Lol, it really does say 'Al', not 'AI'.
04:26:30<nicolas17>omg
04:29:12<nicolas17>anyway you see that /8525/ in the crestron URL? yeah, there's a bunch more documents here
04:31:21<nicolas17>so I guess I need to cleanup this madcap url fetcher script
04:31:36<nicolas17>because I'm gonna be using it again...
04:31:41<@JAA>Ah, yeah
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06:51:39<h2ibot>Bzc6p edited Indafotó (+89, /* Phase 5: Saving image variants of all…): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=55603&oldid=55550
06:59:40<h2ibot>Bzc6p edited Talk:IRC/Logs (+599): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=55604&oldid=55596
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09:02:04<h2ibot>BlankEclair edited IRC/Logs (+28, /* To be investigated */ Add…): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=55605&oldid=55388
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09:50:09<eggdrop>[tell] Medaka: [2025-05-11T03:17:46Z] <pabs> grab-site can use arbitrary UAs, so that might be able to save k.fc2.com. talk to JAA about it
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09:51:43<Medaka>pabs: thanks!
09:55:09<Medaka>JAA: Would it be possible for you to archive the homepage of k.fc2.com using grab-site with the Googlebot user agent?
09:57:07<Medaka>I thought archiving wasn't possible because of regional restrictions, but luckily it looks like Googlebot is allowed.
10:01:13<h2ibot>Bear edited List of websites excluded from the Wayback Machine (+78, Elliot Sorryot; 50 Shades of Sorry.): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=55606&oldid=55600
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10:03:10<Medaka>Here's the homepage URL list: https://transfer.archivete.am/inline/INX4n/k_fc2_homepage_urls.txt
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13:28:50<h2ibot>Bear edited List of websites excluded from the Wayback Machine (+50, fiftyshades.com - Fifty shades of Sorry.): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=55607&oldid=55606
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17:13:36<@JAA>Medaka: Possibly. This is shutting down on 2025-06-02, right?
17:20:41<Medaka>Yes. As stated in the announcement below, the service will shut down on Monday, June 2, 2025, at 10:00 AM (JST)
17:20:45<Medaka>https://fc2information.blog.fc2.com/blog-entry-2307.html
17:21:51<@JAA>Ok, I'll see what I can do.
17:22:28<Medaka>Thank you!
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17:26:26<h2ibot>HadeanEon edited Deaths in 2025 (+2495, BOT - Updating page: {{saved}} (127),…): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=55611&oldid=55592
17:26:27<h2ibot>HadeanEon edited Deaths in 2025/list (+207, BOT - Updating list): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=55612&oldid=55593
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19:38:23<@JAA>From #archivebot-bs by thon, who didn't read the topic:
19:38:23<@JAA>< thon> Heya, just wanted to give a heads up that the official web forums for the games operated by the company Arc Games are being shut down some time this summer with no read only mode being offered. This at least includes the forums for the games Star Trek Online (https://www.arcgames.com/en/forums/startrekonline#/discussion/1275964/forum-discord-announcement/p1), Neverwinter
19:38:29<@JAA>(https://www.arcgames.com/en/forums/neverwinter#/discussion/1268693/forum-discord-announcement), and Champions Online (https://www.arcgames.com/en/forums/championsonline/#/discussion/1219512/forum-discord-announcement), but might include the forum for the game PWI too, though no announcement for that one has been made.
19:39:01<@JAA>Looks scripty.
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20:03:57<h2ibot>That lurker edited Archiveteam:IRC/Relay (+167, Adding #lobsters to hackint as well (I did not…): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=55613&oldid=55105
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20:25:20<@JAA>that_lurker: Uh, that channel doesn't exist? It was just created moments ago when I joined it.
20:25:44<that_lurker>....
20:25:51<that_lurker>of course I typod it
20:25:54<@JAA>lol
20:27:37<that_lurker>meh might as well just move the bot there now
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21:26:14<nicolas17>#down-the-tube is now archiving some "very important government videos on request of IA", but due to youtube throttling, we're moving very slow and have an ETA of 10 months(!)
21:26:26<nicolas17>please run the youtube project if you're not banned
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22:07:53<pabs>that_lurker++
22:07:54<eggdrop>[karma] 'that_lurker' now has 54 karma!
22:08:40<pabs>btw #lobsters on Libera exists too, only posts links to the site tho, not the external links
22:08:58<pabs>(thats the official channel for the site)
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