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05:49:23<nicolas17>https://web.archive.org/web/20230102184443/https://wiki.xentax.com/index.php/Game_File_Format_Central
05:49:29<nicolas17>does anyone know why this wiki died?
05:49:34<nicolas17>https://wiki.xentax.com/
05:53:16<nicolas17>https://web.archive.org/web/20230526020548/https://forum.xentax.com/viewtopic.php?t=26759 :(
05:54:35<tzt>https://csdb.dk/group/?id=935 - "Note for the following links: Xentax discontinued the Game Research Forum, Game File Format Wikie and MultiEx Commander websites in November 2023. They are now permanently offline."
05:55:33<nicolas17>https://www.reddit.com/r/DataHoarder/comments/17je8fd/20_years_of_game_hacking_knowledge_about_to/ "the site's owner has been openly opposed to archival efforts" fuck sake
06:14:48<nicolas17>well, with xentax wiki being dead and fileformats.archiveteam still limping along with the same issues for years, it's a sad state of affairs
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06:54:12<pabs>IIRC xentax stuff all got archived in AB/WB
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08:32:18<that_lurker>nicolas17: What issues does fileformats.archivetea have?
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09:26:59<@OrIdow6>that_lurker: It occasionally goes into periods where every page complains that the server has run out of memory
09:27:04<@OrIdow6>Which breaks a lot of the interface
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09:42:33<that_lurker>oh yeah forgot about that
09:46:06<that_lurker>well tranquil now netactuate (https://netactuate.com/tranquil-hosting/) is providing the server that runs it for free
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12:40:56<@arkiver>i'm now completely back into regular rhythm and location. laptop fixed and a vacation are done
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13:02:57<xkey>nice, vacation sounds good
13:03:01<xkey>wb arkiver
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13:44:50<that_lurker|m>Hipefully the vacation let you recharge your batteries
13:48:17<@JAA>I think the battery needed to be replaced, actually.
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15:27:30<@arkiver>thanks xkey
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16:34:25<nicolas17>that_lurker: the captcha for signup on fileformats has been replaced with "email textfiles if you want an account"
16:34:40<nicolas17>but that also affects the external link anti spam
16:35:16<nicolas17>so it's not possible to add external links to a wiki page, because you're told to complete the captcha "email textfiles if you want an account" for the edit to go through
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18:57:50<bjorn3>in 2018 the botbot.me irc logger (which was logging the #rust channel or irc.mozilla.org among other things) shutdown. aside from small excerpts for each day on archive.org i couldn't find anyone having archived the logs from the period botbot was used. has anyone here archived it?
19:00:14<@JAA>I know we ran it through ArchiveBot at the time. But that would all be in the Wayback Machine.
19:01:44<bjorn3>the pages like https://web.archive.org/web/20181009153445/https://botbot.me/mozilla/rust/2017-02-22/ only show about half an hour worth of logs each.
19:03:05<bjorn3>ah, looks like I need to add ?page=N to get the rest of the content for the day.
19:03:35<@JAA>JavaScript--
19:03:35<eggdrop>[karma] 'JavaScript' now has -18 karma!
19:04:12<@JAA>There isn't even a link for the pagination when you have JS disabled.
19:06:38<bjorn3>i got javascript enabled for web.archive.org.
19:11:05<pokechu22><ul id="Log" class="log unstyled" data-source="/mozilla/rust/stream/" data-next="/mozilla/rust/2017-02-22/?page=2" data-previous="/mozilla/rust/2017-02-21/?page=30" data-current="False" > so archivebot probably should have followed those
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19:13:32<pokechu22>I'm not seeing the buttons show up either (and I have JS enabled). No obvious errors in the console, other than a warning about the console being overridden (which might be hiding errors)
19:27:54<@JAA>It's quite possible that the JS is breaking due to the domain being different etc.
19:28:29<@JAA>But yes, AB archived them.
19:29:37<@JAA>There's also a separate crawl in https://archive.org/details/botbot.me_201809 that got them as well. I saw some mentions in my logs that dxrt ran something independently, so this may be that.
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19:59:11<bjorn3>yeah, found that one already.
20:00:13<bjorn3>as i don't know the exact date and time i'm looking for i figured i would download the raw warc files and load them in replayweb.page to be able to search locally without waiting for the wayback machine loading each page. it uses way too much ram even for a 4gb warc file. what would be a good alternative?
20:01:08<pokechu22>If you just want text-based search, zgrep/zless is probably sufficient (unless it's chunked transfer encoding)
20:06:30<@JAA>Yeah, there's not really existing WARC tooling for that since it's meant to be loaded into a playback system like the WBM or pywb.
20:06:51<@JAA>pywb should work better regarding RAM usage, but not sure it has full-text search.
20:07:27<@JAA>I'd probably try zstdgrep (yes, even for gzip files, it's much faster than zgrep due to differences in the I/O).
20:09:09<bjorn3>thanks for the tips you both. i will see if i can find it.
20:09:35<@JAA>I've been slowly working towards better tooling, by the way, but nowhere near usable yet.
20:10:58<bjorn3>by the way, i'm curious what is the .____padding_file directory in the torrent for?
20:12:03<@JAA>That's for alignign the files with the hash boundaries so that you can cleanly download only some files in the torrent.
20:12:12<@JAA>aligning*
20:13:01<bjorn3>i see
20:14:14<@JAA>This, I think: https://www.bittorrent.org/beps/bep_0047.html
20:20:05<bjorn3>found it! thanks for the help!
20:20:46<bjorn3>and thanks to everyone who works on archiving stuff like this.
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20:32:09<h2ibot>Cooljeanius edited Template:Instant messengers (+7, R.I.P. Skype): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=55577&oldid=49835
20:34:44<ericgallager>https://www.theverge.com/favorites/621864/skype-microsoft-goodbye
20:35:09<h2ibot>Cooljeanius edited Skype (+116, It's the day of the shutdown): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=55578&oldid=54509
20:36:09<h2ibot>Cooljeanius edited Skype (+6, oops, forgot the closing ref tag): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=55579&oldid=55578
20:37:12<ericgallager>https://bsky.app/profile/bobpony.com/post/3logpzqmrlc2q
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