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| 01:47:02 | <TheTechRobo> | Blueacid: Funny coincidence: Just saw in my GitHub feed that someone at IA started a project that does exactly what you asked about :-) https://github.com/internetarchive/doppelganger |
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| 01:54:23 | <@JAA> | Oh, not here currently. |
| 01:55:11 | <TheTechRobo> | corentin++ |
| 01:55:12 | <eggdrop> | [karma] 'corentin' now has 2 karma! |
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| 04:52:32 | <Webuser080263> | Hi, I mentioned the Criticker forums shutting down yesterday, and saw someone put it in Archivebot, thank you! I wanted to mention since I saw it looks like it's gotten stuck on 403s trying to download URLs starting with /film and /tv and maybe also /game when it gets to them, it's just the /forum that is closing. I expect the rest of the site to |
| 04:52:33 | <Webuser080263> | stick around, it's under active development, so if it would help, the job could ignore ^https?://\w+\.criticker\.com/film/.*, ^https?://\w+\.criticker\.com/tv/.*, and ^https?://\w+\.criticker\.com/game/.* if those are all that are 403ing. |
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| 05:01:28 | <eggdrop> | [remind] OrIdow6: machine |
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| 05:58:53 | <@arkiver> | OrIdow6: if you have access to the right machine, it would be good for us to still archive niconico shunga |
| 06:01:06 | <@arkiver> | JAA: is it easily possible to simply set up a little archivebot node on a machine with the right IP, or route requests through it, for the niconico website? |
| 06:02:38 | <@JAA> | arkiver: Setting it up as a special pipeline that only processes things specifically queued to it would be easy. Routing traffic through it would be messier, I think. |
| 06:04:37 | <@arkiver> | maybe that first thing can be done with the machine with Japanese IP? |
| 06:05:00 | <@arkiver> | i wonder how the Docker situation is nowadays for AB :P |
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| 06:05:24 | <@arkiver> | it would be nice if someone can simply spin up a Docker image, give you the relevant information, and you register it with AB for single use |
| 06:05:32 | <@arkiver> | like for a specific project, until taken down again |
| 06:08:46 | <h2ibot> | PaulWise edited ArchiveBot/Ignore (+173, add pinterest ignore from pokechu22): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=54271&oldid=54169 |
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| 06:25:34 | <@JAA> | Sure, I'll happily set that up. |
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| 06:40:41 | <Webuser855579> | Apologies if this is redundant but it looks like this is shutting down soon: https://www.reddit.com/r/DataHoarder/comments/1i73xq6/blogtalkradiocom_is_shutting_down_on_jan_31st_2025/ |
| 06:42:26 | <@arkiver> | JAA: do you mean we have something Docker-ish that is easy to use? |
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| 06:48:32 | <@JAA> | arkiver: No, the container situation is unchanged: there are two unofficial hacky setups that kind of work but have quirks. |
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| 06:51:46 | <@JAA> | Webuser855579: Thanks! |
| 06:51:58 | <@JAA> | Can't find an official public announcement, but apparently they sent out an email: https://podnews.net/article/blogtalkradio-customer-email |
| 06:52:12 | <@JAA> | Also, they apparently removed a bunch of content a few years ago: https://help.blogtalkradio.com/en/articles/3513987-what-happened-to-my-older-episodes-on-blogtalkradio |
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| 07:02:24 | <@OrIdow6> | arkiver: So we're going with the AB thing or should I still go through with the original plan? |
| 07:02:40 | <@OrIdow6> | Still would need to generate a list of all the relevant images |
| 07:02:52 | <@OrIdow6> | And probably do some postprocessing to get the big thumbnails |
| 07:03:38 | <@OrIdow6> | Thank you JAA and TheTechRobo |
| 07:07:55 | <@JAA> | If it can be grabbed completely with a couple AB jobs like that, it sounds like the path of least resistance. |
| 07:08:57 | <@OrIdow6> | I might play around with qwarc anyway at some point so that wasn't lost |
| 07:09:18 | <@OrIdow6> | Feels like a good starting point to play around with crawl control schemes too |
| 07:10:18 | <@JAA> | I did write a PoC crawler with qwarc at one point. Not at all usable generically, but it did work. |
| 07:11:02 | <@JAA> | But yeah, I was going to say, I don't want to stop anyone from using qwarc. :-) |
| 07:19:01 | <@OrIdow6> | As long as it can happen soon I think it's the path of least resistance yet |
| 07:19:35 | <@OrIdow6> | Depending on site capacity might need to do some initial list generation in a separate script, I didn't see any magic url prefix for shuga as opposed to the whole site |
| 07:20:00 | <@OrIdow6> | "Depending on capacity" since if it supports it may as well do the whole site |
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| 07:23:13 | <@OrIdow6> | I do see in the #niconino (should we move there BTW?) logs that they gave per-ip 429s on the video site back in 2021 |
| 07:23:40 | <@JAA> | Yeah, let's move things there. |
| 07:24:17 | <@JAA> | I found a way to enumerate all episodes on BlogTalkRadio. The IDs go to over 12 million. |
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| 07:32:56 | <@JAA> | An AB job is running now anyway as a fallback. |
| 07:34:41 | <@JAA> | There are sitemaps, which AB didn't like for some reason. |
| 07:35:52 | <@JAA> | Oh yeah, they're malformed, and wpull requires an `<?xml`. |
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| 07:44:55 | <@JAA> | As expected, it's discovering a bunch of stuff anyway. |
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| 08:03:18 | <@arkiver> | OrIdow6: did you mention previously it would be like a few 100 GB? |
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| 08:30:36 | <katia> | arkiver: I did some work on dockerish archivebot for my own personal use but it’s all undocumented. It works well ime, a control plane archivebot can be run w one command with all its dependencies being happy. The pipeline is also container’d. I have a PR in archivebot for it I should pick up again an document / finish |
| 08:32:01 | <@arkiver> | that is pretty nice! |
| 08:40:34 | <szczot3k> | katia: archivebot on k8s when? |
| 08:49:28 | <katia> | szczot3k, it runs fine on k8s |
| 08:49:51 | <katia> | i was tempted to do a archivebot in kubernetes workshop at 38c3 |
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| 08:55:21 | <szczot3k> | archivenetes |
| 08:55:37 | <szczot3k> | or kubearchive |
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| 10:45:45 | <tzt> | Japanese radio station Super! A&G+ is ceasing broadcasting on 2025-03-31 https://www.joqr.co.jp/qr/article/143923/ |
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| 11:51:35 | <@arkiver> | thanks tzt |
| 11:52:12 | <@arkiver> | tzt: is this the one at https://www.joqr.co.jp/ag/ ? |
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| 14:46:19 | <nicolas17> | what happened with the plan to use a ticket system for things shutting down? |
| 15:31:12 | <@arkiver> | i believe there was some consensus on maybe using a repository on gitea |
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| 15:31:20 | <@arkiver> | but there was on plan decided for a ticketing system |
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| 15:55:01 | <szczot3k> | https://jira.archiveteam.org/ |
| 16:23:48 | | ` |
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| 16:33:01 | <@arkiver> | katia? :P |
| 16:33:28 | <katia> | arkiver! |
| 16:33:41 | <@arkiver> | hi :) |
| 16:48:05 | <FireFly> | typical katia behaviour |
| 16:50:12 | <katia> | h |
| 16:50:19 | <szczot3k> | FireFly++ |
| 16:50:19 | <eggdrop> | [karma] 'FireFly' now has 1 karma! |
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| 19:32:15 | <h2ibot> | Nulldata edited Deathwatch (+322, /* 2025 */ Added RateBeer): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=54272&oldid=54241 |
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| 22:30:21 | <icedice> | Very impressive Sailor Moon media archive that was partially archived in 2017, but the HDD ArchiveBot used for it ran out of storage space after about 800 GB iirc: https://missdream.org/ |
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