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00:00:38<h2ibot>PaulWise edited SmolNet (+122, add another gopher archive): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=54258&oldid=53885
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01:14:55<h2ibot>Himond000 edited Niconico (+390, /* History */ About Video deletions): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=54259&oldid=54250
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02:03:17<h2ibot>PaulWise edited SmolNet (+107, related protocols: telnet nntp): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=54260&oldid=54258
02:03:18<h2ibot>OrIdow6 edited Niconico (+1033, /* Nico Nico Seiga */ Some research with a…): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=54261&oldid=54259
02:04:17<h2ibot>PaulWise edited SmolNet (+49, related protocol: dict): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=54262&oldid=54260
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02:08:37<@OrIdow6>TLDR of my research on Niconico Shuga (it's not that long anyway but):
02:08:43<@OrIdow6>- Accessible via a VPN so they're not too strict
02:09:03<@OrIdow6>- Somebody's been really trying to annoy users into registering and as such the only way I could find to see non-thumbnail images (still shrunk) is to use a very nonobvious URL format
02:09:10<@OrIdow6>- Besides that looks good, not too javascripty or anything
02:20:10<monika>TikTok US will go down in 10 minutes according to my sources
02:20:24<monika>Nothing we can do about it lol
02:24:38<that_lurker>hmm wonder how long the app will work without updates
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03:16:44<nulldata>Not very long if the servers block US residents lol
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03:38:59<monika>and it's down
03:39:11<monika>took about an hour to get all microservices to wind down?
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04:02:41<qwertyasdfuiopghjkl2>https://read.cv/ and https://posts.cv/ will go read-only on 2025-02-28 and shut down on 2025-05-16: https://read.cv/a-new-chapter (https://archive.today/VK1nW), https://notes.ghed.in/posts/2025/read-cv-posts-perplexity/ (found thanks to szczot3k's link to https://notes.ghed.in/posts/2025/bluesky-free-our-feeds-mastodon/ in -ot yesterday)
04:05:40<nulldata>Nah the services are still up - just a forced dialog that disallows you the ability to do anything with the app but close. It even still loads and tries to play videos in the background.
04:05:48<h2ibot>Petchea edited TikTok (-26): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=54263&oldid=54255
04:08:24<nicolas17>app can no longer be downloaded from the Apple AppStore in the US https://apps.apple.com/us/app/tiktok/id835599320
04:08:47<nulldata>https://lounge.nulldata.foo/uploads/9034c183c38e43fa/TikOff.png
04:11:00<that_lurker>Upper part is sad, but the last part is even more sad if it means Space Karen buys tiktok
04:18:18<nulldata>Maybe. There's at least one other grifter that has been cozying up to Trump that wants TikTok too
04:18:58<nicolas17>that_lurker: https://i.redd.it/3rqjqs3smr0a1.jpg
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04:23:41<that_lurker>damn. Need start using Elon Muskrat
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06:27:25<@OrIdow6>If somebody has a machine in Japan, or that looks like it's in Japan, and is able to run things, I could set something up to run there
06:27:42<@OrIdow6>Learn how to use qwarc, IDK
06:28:11<@OrIdow6>It looks like the thumbnails as opposed to HTML pages don't have the region restriction on them
06:28:21<@OrIdow6>So those can just be gathered and !ao<'d
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07:57:21<@arkiver>OrIdow6: i wonder if it would be interesting to have special AB nodes in parts of the world - especially focussing on those that often employ region restrictions
07:57:41<@arkiver>Japan is indeed one of those regions, they also restrict region for playing many radio streams, etc.
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08:28:48<@OrIdow6>arkiver: Yeah, would be useful for times like this; I don't know what those parts of the world are, China and Japan are the ones I hear about most frequently I think?
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08:29:43<joepie91|m>almost every public broadcaster has a region lock of some kind, to start with
08:50:10<steering>there's plenty of hosts in japan, probably harder to get in china
08:53:21<steering>I wonder how much there are in parts of the world we don't hear about :P
08:54:23<szczot3k>steering I can geolocate to china with v6, does that count?
09:00:17<kiska>I could ask my grand parents if I can put a box there xD
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10:12:44<@arkiver>joepie91|m: i don't really see that for european regions for example
10:12:53<@arkiver>OrIdow6: yeah Canada is another - i'm not sure about China
10:13:37<joepie91|m>arkiver: NPO has one, for starters
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10:37:41<BornOn420>the 'transfer' shortcut to upload file to transfer.archivete.am stopped working for me, finishes with 'open /tmp/transfer-930673991: no such file or directory'
10:37:57<BornOn420>direct curl or through web interface still work.
10:38:07<BornOn420>anyone else experiencing this?
10:41:46<szczot3k>BornOn420 04:51 <@JAA> Uploads to transfer without a Content-Length (in practice: piping to `curl -T -`) are currently broken when the content length is more than 24 KiB. Will fix on the weekend.
10:43:16<szczot3k>Might be related
10:47:45<@OrIdow6>arkiver: Yeah China is stretching it
10:49:01<IDK>It would be fun to have one in HK tho, but that I persume is very expensive
10:49:24<IDK>unless you go directly to ISPs but it would be pretty complicated
10:50:19<szczot3k>https://as199680.net/geofeed.csv if v6-only is satisfactory, I might be able to help. Geolocation is based mostly on trust in the network operator to self-locate.
10:51:40<szczot3k>It could take weeks, or months for the geofeed to be actually put into geolocation databases, depends on how often the interested parties download the databases
11:01:00<szczot3k>https://bugs.mojang.com/secure/Dashboard.jspa did we do anything in regards to mojira?
11:01:22<szczot3k>Nvm, see the ab job
11:03:44<FireFly>arkiver: SVT geofences most things to .se at least
11:20:54<steering>BBC limits some stuff to UK
11:21:01<steering>lots of geofencing on media
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15:06:46<h2ibot>Himond000 edited Niconico (+109, /* History */ About Video deletions): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=54264&oldid=54261
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15:31:21<nstrom|m>salmoncloud.co.uk has fairly reasonably priced HK servers
15:31:46<nstrom|m>hostvds.com offers HK servers too now but all their stuff is pretty shaky tbh
15:31:59<nstrom|m>way too oversold / underresourced I think
15:55:28<kpcyrd>can I delete files from an internet archive item/the item itself? what's the best way to test my uploader?
16:05:23<kpcyrd>and, well, in the example section here, can I use `Upload a file to an existing item:` to implicitly create an item, as implied in the docs for PUT operations? https://archive.org/developers/ias3.html#examples
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16:11:32<katia>you can put to s3 and it will create the item if it does not exist
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16:16:01<kpcyrd>does this count as s3? curl --location --header "authorization: LOW $accesskey:$secret" --upload-file /home/samuel/public_html/intro-to-k.pdf https://s3.us.archive.org/sam-s3-test-08/demo-intro-to-k.pdf
16:16:11<masterx244|m><kpcyrd> "can I delete files from an..." <- for testing: upload into a item under the test collection. those get automatically garbage collected even if you forget it.
16:16:15<kpcyrd>not having to do the crypto-signature dance would be nice (:
16:17:34<kpcyrd>masterx244|m: which one is the test collection? this? -> https://archive.org/details/test
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16:17:57kpcyrd likely confuses collection and item
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16:21:58<masterx244|m>kpcyrd: yes, thats the test collection. exactly for cases like yours when some toolin needs debugging. regular users can create items in that collection, too
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16:28:14<TheTechRobo>I believe it is https://archive.org/details/test_collection?tab=about
16:28:45<masterx244|m>ahh, had my wires crossed then. i only knew that it existed and it had a obvious name
16:32:52<@JAA>We had an AB pipeline with Vultr in Japan before. It was tiny but otherwise fine.
16:32:57<@JAA>Russia would be an interesting one, too.
16:33:08<@JAA>BornOn420: Yes, that's what szczot3k mentioned, known bug since the migration.
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20:18:14<monika>TikTok is back??
20:21:04<katia>apparently
20:21:24<szczot3k>Always has been /s
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20:48:52<that_lurker>hmm what changed on the ban?
20:52:31<masterx244|m>trump announced that he plans to "sudo" over the existing ban with a executive order immediately after entering the white house
21:17:36<szczot3k>!remindme 8d mojira?
21:17:37<eggdrop>[remind] ok, i'll remind you at 2025-01-27T21:17:36Z
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21:44:57<@JAA>→ #TikOff
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21:47:24<szczot3k>JAA: how did you get the mojira links? Can we get a re-archive near the date?
21:47:43<szczot3k>Why not let AB handle it tho?
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22:02:04<kpcyrd>TheTechRobo: thanks for clarifying!
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22:32:29<magmaus3>JAA: out of curiosity, how much performance does a single AB server need?
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23:03:08<@OrIdow6>Can I get an account at gitea.arpa.li?
23:08:35<@JAA>szczot3k: Oh yeah, thanks for the reminder, still need to do the second step on that one.
23:09:28<@JAA>Not sure about rerunning everything. Grabbing the newly created tickets since the start of that run should be easy though.
23:11:37<szczot3k>JAA the instance isn't closed to comments, so we might want to rerun
23:12:05<@JAA>It's more about the resources and time it'll take.
23:12:58<szczot3k>Sure
23:16:49<@JAA>magmaus3: It's pretty scalable since each individual job is single-threaded anyway. Usually 2-3 jobs per core work well. What's more important than performance is stability with constant uptime measured in months.
23:18:18<pokechu22>SSD instead of HDD is also important, isn't it?
23:18:34<@JAA>Yes
23:18:39<magmaus3>JAA: good to know :3
23:18:58<@JAA>And the SSDs see a lot of writes, too. Not quite as bad as targets, but still.
23:19:00<nicolas17>can't offer my raspberry pi 3 as a target, noted
23:19:13<nicolas17>as a pipeline*
23:20:38<@JAA>If this looks insane to you, well, it is:
23:20:38<@JAA>Data Units Read: 73,754,802 [37.7 TB]
23:20:38<@JAA>Data Units Written: 1,942,975,613 [994 TB]
23:21:47<nicolas17>something's fucky
23:22:11<@JAA>It's entirely expected, but yes.
23:22:35<nicolas17>data being written, read back, and deleted, before it disappears from the disk cache? so the read doesn't actually happen?
23:22:40<@JAA>Yep
23:24:08<nicolas17>maybe we need to keep more stuff intentionally in memory so it's never written? :D
23:24:20<@JAA>Yep
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23:34:00<nicolas17>> Specifying the FILE_ATTRIBUTE_TEMPORARY attribute causes file systems to avoid writing data back to mass storage if sufficient cache memory is available, because an application deletes a temporary file after a handle is closed. In that case, the system can entirely avoid writing the data.
23:34:01<nicolas17>> Although it does not directly control data caching in the same way as the previously mentioned flags, the FILE_ATTRIBUTE_TEMPORARY attribute does tell the system to hold as much as possible in the system cache without writing and therefore may be of concern for certain applications.
23:34:03<nicolas17>Windows has this feature that I wish Linux had too
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23:35:46<@JAA>OrIdow6: More on that soon. A bunch of things have been happening in the background lately, and Gitea is one of the next things on the list now.
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