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00:24:15<Flashfire42>Or find someone with a lounge client to mooch off of
00:52:55<nicolas17>on chat systems that have automatically persistent connections, we'd probably have 3000 lurkers who never talk and never speak but are "in" the room
00:53:16<nicolas17>er never talk and never read messages*
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01:06:06<nightpool>well, luckily i think most IRC servers have switched to using at least a 16 bit integer for the number of channel members these days :P
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04:01:45<StarletCharlotte>Might be a good idea to archive https://www.nonograms.org/ and https://www.nonograms.ru/. While the site still has an active userbase creating new puzzles, the site itself hasn't been updated since 2016 (as seen by the news section). It's likely this is just because it's in a state where it doesn't need to be updated that much and can just be maintained, archiving the puzzles may be advisable.
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04:22:23<pabs>AT HN thread: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42447579
04:27:35<nicolas17>"Update: 12/17/2024 SSL is now active on the site. I will be adding a redirect rule in the future, but for now you can manually change over to https"
04:27:40<nicolas17>>look inside
04:27:45<nicolas17>>https://rrpicturearchives.net/ gives 404
04:28:01<nicolas17>>https://www.rrpicturearchives.net/ works
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04:52:19<h2ibot>Nulldata edited TikTok (+859, /* Vital Signs */ Added the recent law and…): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=54070&oldid=51895
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05:54:47<@arkiver>the youtube project in #down-the-tube has resumed
05:55:06<nulldata>arkiver++
05:55:06<eggdrop>[karma] 'arkiver' now has 44 karma!
05:55:17<@arkiver>:)
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06:12:57<that_lurker>arkiver++
06:12:58<eggdrop>[karma] 'arkiver' now has 45 karma!
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06:40:36<h2ibot>PaulWise edited Mailing Lists (+34, old racket list archives): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=54071&oldid=54056
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12:42:26<mls>GamingOnLinux has disabled user to user DMs and are shutting down forums due to the incoming UK Online Safety Act
12:43:48<mls>DMs: https://www.gamingonlinux.com/forum/topic/6462/ Forum: https://www.gamingonlinux.com/forum/topic/6463/
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13:25:41<nulldata>mis - looks like the forums are already pretty much gone. Only category left is the website updates.
13:25:54<nulldata>mls*
13:31:20<masterx244|m>maybe mail contact so if the data still exists that he could keep it up readonly until that date for a AT pull could help
13:54:01<mls>There's several copies of the GOL forums on IA, last entry is Dec 16th 2024
13:55:20<mls>I suppose I could reach out to see if the site owner is up for one last archive
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15:14:22<@OrIdow6>!remindme 2d dw stuff
15:14:23<eggdrop>[remind] ok, i'll remind you at 2024-12-20T15:14:22Z
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15:18:09<@OrIdow6>Worth a shot mls
15:18:45<@OrIdow6>Doesn't seem there was any warning
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15:19:37<@OrIdow6>nightpool: "This is a persistent issue with accessibility on IRC, it really only works for people who only desktops and also never turn them off." - nicely put
15:20:20<@OrIdow6>nicolas17: maybe there's some way people can be removed after a certain period of inactivity? Seems like the kind of thing that might happen matrix-side
15:20:30<@OrIdow6>Cleaning out unused accounts
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15:31:19<mls>OrIdow6 masterx244|m I've emailed asking if they are interested. The website footer has changed as well, all social information (channels) has been removed.
15:32:05<mls>I've also started lurking on their telegram discussion channel just in case.
15:40:49<@OrIdow6>mls: Alright, hopefully that has a chance of working
15:40:59<@OrIdow6>Great safety law, shutting down forums so people can move to discord
15:42:40<mls>From what I've read it (UK Online Safety Act) could potentially apply to Fediverse?
15:43:17<mls>From comments that*
17:28:20<Ryz>Can anyone help me with scraping results with the query "site:https://ftp.vector.co.jp/" on Bing (or any internet web search engine that can be automated) and more than that?
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17:28:42<Ryz>So, I've been hearing shutdowns related to https://vector.co.jp/ but wasn't sure if something like https://ftp.vector.co.jp/ is affected
17:29:41<Ryz>https://ftp.vector.co.jp/ on it's own doesn't have it's own main page or something, and for around three to four years, I had this URL laying around I can't figure out how I stumbled upon this: https://ftp.vector.co.jp/38/69/4011/Mapping213.lzh
17:30:38<Ryz>The reason why I said more is that the URL structure can be searched through since it's numerical; the '38', '69' and '4011' stuff
17:31:10<Ryz>The first two only can have two digits, so 00 being the lowest, and 99 being the highest
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17:32:32<Ryz>Or rather, the highest it can go far from my resutls is just 68
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17:33:51<Ryz>The third one, is odd, because, the higher numbers seem to be tied to how much later the earlier two numbers are
17:35:11<masterx244|m>does it expose the filename by itself once the numbers fit?
17:36:06<masterx244|m>if yes: bruteforce fróm a burner IP to get a URL list (resort to TOR if banhammers fudge you up somehow) by bruteforce for pulling from a clean IP
17:36:35<masterx244|m>(had that once when i had to bruteforce-enumerate a site after pagination bugged out hard)
17:37:19<masterx244|m>and whats the usual source for links to that FTP? maybe some WARCRipping or dataset munching can be done over a few AT crawls to grab those URLs
17:38:58<Ryz>Here is the sample file of all my results so far, cleaned up; with me tackling https://ftp.vector.co.jp/00/ via DuckDuckGo, which is why there's much larger results under there:
17:38:59<Ryz>https://transfer.archivete.am/oDJCQ/ftp.vector.co.jp-sample-files-from-duckduckgo
17:38:59<eggdrop>inline (for browser viewing): https://transfer.archivete.am/inline/oDJCQ/ftp.vector.co.jp-sample-files-from-duckduckgo
17:42:08<Ryz>I am wondering where these came from, on how the search engines found them, the vast majority of them are .lzh, with very few exceptions like .pdf
17:45:15<Ryz>Yeah, unfortunately the filenames wouldn't be possible
18:06:48<Ryz>If anyone can volunteer to do a major grabbing of that, that would very kind of you
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18:07:34<Ryz>Because having to do so many grabs of it through DuckDuckGo is tedious enough, with the constant popups on whether to determine if I'm a bot or not
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18:09:27<Ryz>The only other URL I found from the results is I think https://any.run/report/ed58b7b7d084c3466db8edd12063471e7aaf8d09b3131df403b99217f0457d73/630bc6ea-3eb6-4f41-8691-39c8f4c0d327
18:21:11<masterx244|m><Ryz> "I am wondering where these..." <- yeah, curious, too since if its a site that we got into a dataset already it might be more efficient to munch the dataset directly
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18:30:35<thuban>according to nmap there's no actual ftp or sftp service listening at ftp.vector.co.jp, so no listing it that way either
18:32:11<masterx244|m>thuban: yeah, tried to buzz that out already, too
18:32:34<thuban>there's a bing-scrape in little-things but it doesn't appear to be working, hold on...
18:37:17<@JAA>Hmm, first attempt here failed, too, but now it works.
18:39:38<thuban>response from bing is super inconsistent for me and i can't figure out why :/
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22:45:58<DopefishJustin>as far as I know it's just the homepages at hp.vector.co.jp that are being taken down at this stage and not the software libraries, although those would be excellent to grab too
22:49:49<DopefishJustin>related to which, I've made a list of .swf files from hp.vector.jp at https://transfer.archivete.am/eylSs/swfurls.txt - some of them are used for navigation or load other resources if someone is able to decompile or otherwise check them for references to other urls, it would be nice to crawl those before the deadline tomorrow
22:49:50<eggdrop>inline (for browser viewing): https://transfer.archivete.am/inline/eylSs/swfurls.txt
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23:02:14<Snivy>Is the archiveteam wiki down right now?
23:02:26<Flashfire42>yes
23:05:36<@JAA>In fact, it has just returned a couple minutes ago.
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