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01:28:53<h2ibot>OrIdow6 edited Tracker (+85, /* Rate limit, backfeed, queues, etc. */): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=54029&oldid=53762
01:33:05<@JAA>OrIdow6: That depends (strongly) on the project.
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02:30:04<eggdrop>[remind] OrIdow6: dw
02:35:03<h2ibot>TheTechRobo edited Tracker (+78, More detailed (and quite possibly wrong)…): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=54030&oldid=54029
02:35:05<TheTechRobo>JAA: ^ is that more accurate?
02:36:36<@JAA>TheTechRobo: Yeah, that's accurate.
02:41:55<TheTechRobo>JAA: Does offloading also apply to done, or is that separate?
02:42:35<@JAA>It does.
02:43:32<TheTechRobo>Hm, then I have a question. Why do all the queues have accurate counts on the tracker, but on e.g. telegram, done is 0 while done_counter is the correct value?
02:46:28<@JAA>I forgot how that works exactly, but we discard done items there because it'd be far too large. Same on #//. done_counter keeps track of just the number of completed items.
02:49:03<TheTechRobo>Ah, so on some projects, they aren't kept at all. Makes sense
02:49:18<TheTechRobo>I guess they don't really need to be, since the pipeline stores the item name in the WARC.
02:49:41<@JAA>Yes, and we do keep a record of them somewhere else if we really need to reconstruct it.
02:55:06<h2ibot>TheTechRobo edited Tracker (+511, Add offloading information about claims and done): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=54031&oldid=54030
03:28:17<@OrIdow6>Thank you TheTechRobo, I intended that initial edit purely as something that would have gone into my personal notes but which was of public benefit, but it accidentallly ended up as "the best way to get an answer to a question on the Internet is to give the wrong answer"
03:30:13<eggdrop>[remind] OrIdow6: dw2
03:30:31<@OrIdow6>!remindme 5h dw2
03:30:31<eggdrop>[remind] ok, i'll remind you at 2024-12-15T08:30:31Z
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06:14:43<h2ibot>Tech234a edited Twitch.tv (+270, /* Broadcast retention changes */ Add current…): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=54032&oldid=53983
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06:16:44<h2ibot>Tech234a edited Twitch.tv (+20, /* Broadcast retention changes */ Fix old…): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=54033&oldid=54032
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07:44:16<pabs>do we have anything that supports archiving TLS 1.0?
07:44:55<pabs>I mean sites that use that
07:48:01<pabs>ArchiveBot just gets operation not permitted AFAICT
07:49:08<pabs>SPN gives "Save Page Now could not capture this URL because it was unreachable."
07:49:26<pabs>example URL: https://ssl.linuxtag.org/survey/
07:54:06<VannevarK>Hello, I had a couple questions about the GameFront archive, https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/GameFront
07:54:06<VannevarK>I'm trying to track down some old game mods (this is Halo 2 for Xbox), I have about 150 filefront links from a forum mirror, but I'm not sure if this data (which is all from ~2004-2008) would have still been on GameFront at the time it was scraped. (also, none of it seems to be on moddb.com, possibly because they removed content for modded
07:54:06<VannevarK>consoles?) Another thing I'm trying to figure out, is how to convert old Filefront URLs to GameFront URLs, if that's even possible to do. The URLs I have are in the format of "http://files.filefront.com/Purgatoryrar/;4121654;;/fileinfo.html". I'm still digging into this, but any help would be appreciated. (approaches that require programming
07:54:06<VannevarK>ok)
07:55:44<VannevarK>(i suppose i could walk the CDX files and look for the target filenames if thats reliable)
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08:30:31<eggdrop>[remind] OrIdow6: dw2
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10:00:20<h2ibot>PaulWise edited Mailing Lists (+301, more stuff): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=54034&oldid=54004
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10:24:04<szczot3k>h2ibot doesn't take User: namespace into account?
10:28:14<szczot3k>https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/Template:IRC-Hackint - this template may now be deleted, as it's unused, and shouldn't be used.
10:29:08<szczot3k>https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Template:Y - this template probably could be deleted, as it's unused, and looks like a test template
10:29:40<szczot3k>https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Template:Pink&redirect=no - ...pink?
10:34:13<szczot3k>https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/Template:W2 - this actually seems used _somewhere_, but I can't find it anywhere in the wiki export.
10:35:08<szczot3k>https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:W2
10:35:09<szczot3k>Huh
10:36:00<szczot3k>JAA, I see your revisions on W2. Do you think I should move it to [[Template:Wikipedia]]?
10:39:16<szczot3k>Same with W2+
10:40:09<szczot3k>Oh, this change broke some pages to be sure.
10:43:27<h2ibot>Szczot3k edited Instagram (+34, Change W2/W2+ templates to Wikipedia. Still…): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=54037&oldid=53357
10:45:27<h2ibot>Szczot3k edited MediaWiki talk:Spam-blacklist (+7, W2 cleanup): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=54038&oldid=38454
10:47:11<@OrIdow6>VannevarK: Yeah that's the best way
10:47:21<@OrIdow6>You can usually generate all the CDX URLs using the "internetarchive" CLI tool and some sed/grep/whatever
10:47:51<@OrIdow6>ia search "collection:archiveteam_egloos" | jq -r .identifier | awk '{printf("https://archive.org/download/%s/%s.cdx.gz\n", $1, $1);}' | wget --input-file - --waitretry=30
10:50:18<szczot3k>W2 cleanup here isn't possible with the current template, as it doesn't take second argument. https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/Talk:Main_Page. Also I don't think that the Wikipedia template is actually a good thing in the current form. I think it should substitute {{Wikipedia:WP:IP|guest users}} to [[wikipedia:{{1}}|{{2}}]]
10:50:18<szczot3k><sup>Wikipedia</sup>
10:50:38<szczot3k>because currently it breaks the flow of the text
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11:00:04<szczot3k>Proposed changes, that won't break the flow of the text. https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/User:Szczot3k/Sandbox/Wikipedia - Template at https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/User:Szczot3k/Sandbox/Template:Wikipedia
11:00:56<szczot3k>If there will be consensus to change the template, I'll work on the template's page so it looks better
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11:29:24<@OrIdow6>!remindme 12h dw2
11:29:24<eggdrop>[remind] ok, i'll remind you at 2024-12-15T23:29:24Z
11:32:12<szczot3k>!remindme 8h wiki template
11:32:13<eggdrop>[remind] ok, i'll remind you at 2024-12-15T19:32:12Z
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12:35:10<VannevarK>OrIdow6 Thanks, I was just looking for a good way to parse the CDX files
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13:19:46<szczot3k>Do we still have some EFNet channels?
13:23:20<k>no
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19:32:12<eggdrop>[remind] szczot3k: wiki template
19:33:20<szczot3k>!remindme 22h wikitemplate
19:33:21<eggdrop>[remind] ok, i'll remind you at 2024-12-16T17:33:20Z
19:34:26<szczot3k>Open to feedback
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20:13:04<h2ibot>Usernam edited List of websites excluded from the Wayback Machine (+35, …): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=54045&oldid=54025
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20:25:07<h2ibot>Himond000 edited Twitch.tv (-128, /* twitch-logger-docker */ fix): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=54046&oldid=54033
20:33:08<h2ibot>Himond000 edited Deathwatch (+223, /* 2025 */ add kidona.rakuten.co.jp): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=54047&oldid=54022
20:43:10<h2ibot>Himond000 edited Deathwatch (+232, /* 2025 */ add LINE Doctor): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=54048&oldid=54047
21:00:13<h2ibot>JAABot edited List of websites excluded from the Wayback Machine (+0): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=54049&oldid=54045
21:01:35<szczot3k>JAA ^huh?
21:02:24<szczot3k>https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=54049&oldid=54045 seems like a buggy behaviour, it switched the place, AND it incremented the number of things
21:04:03<TheTechRobo>It incremented the number of things because Usernam added one, and it moved the URL so the list is alphabetical.
21:04:25<TheTechRobo>see Usernam's edit: https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=54045&oldid=54025
21:04:33<szczot3k>Yeah, when you put it like that it makes sense
21:04:36<szczot3k>Brain farted
21:09:14<h2ibot>Himond000 edited Deathwatch (+273, /* 2025 */ add rakuten ip-phone-smart): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=54050&oldid=54048
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21:59:14<myself>has this been grabbed? https://forums.othernet.is/t/shutting-down-forum/7980
22:05:30<k>myself: does not look like it
22:06:54<k>myself: i started a job for it in archivebot, thanks for letting us know
22:07:28<myself>thank you
22:09:17<k>:) <3
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22:09:41<k>!clockscan 1mo
22:09:42<eggdrop>[clockscan] parsed "1 months 22:09:42Z" as 1736978982 → 2025-01-15T22:09:42Z
22:09:53<k>!remindme 1mo grab https://forums.othernet.is/t/shutting-down-forum/7980 again? cc myself
22:09:55<eggdrop>[remind] ok, i'll remind you at 2025-01-15T22:09:53Z
22:33:48<@JAA>pabs: Hmm, I thought we had enabled down to TLS 1.0 on AB. (SSLv3 would require a custom OpenSSL build.)
22:39:56<@JAA>szczot3k: I'm unsure about the space before the <sup>. Personally, I'd put no space at all there, but if others disagree, I think it should at least be a non-breaking space so the <sup>[Wikipedia]</sup> doesn't end up on a new line.
22:40:11<@JAA>Also, ATrescue's a blast from the past. lol
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23:18:55<@OrIdow6>szczot3k: I am in favor of destroying the wiki
23:23:23<pabs>JAA: the recent linuxtag.org jobs got "Operation not permitted" on TLS 1.0 subdomains like ssl.linuxtag.org
23:26:54<k>OrIdow6: wat
23:28:52<@OrIdow6>k: Way too much "somone decided this in 10 minutes in 2012 and now we're stuck with it" on the wiki
23:29:25<eggdrop>[remind] OrIdow6: dw2
23:31:55<@OrIdow6>eggdrop: Waiting to pester me until you see I'm online huh
23:32:06<@OrIdow6>!remindme 4h dw2
23:32:06<eggdrop>[remind] ok, i'll remind you at 2024-12-16T03:32:06Z
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23:43:02<@JAA>pabs: Thanks, I'll investigate later. In a brief test, the OpenSSL config we use should be enough.

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