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| 01:07:12 | <MajoraZ> | Hello! Apologies if this isn't the right place to post this! I do posts on Mesoamerican (Aztec, etc) history and archeology and follow the academic literature, and am an amateur archivist with material on the topic (as well as some random gaming and anime topics/forums), especially artistic reconstructions. |
| 01:07:12 | <MajoraZ> | While it's possible I have content the archiveteam in general is interested in, I'm reaching out primarily because I am trying to track down images posted to the Skyscrapercity forums via imageshack uploads by a notable artist, Tomas Filsinger. He passed away recently and while I thought I had saved all of his work online, I was somehow unaware he |
| 01:07:12 | <MajoraZ> | had posts there and Imageshack uploads. |
| 01:07:12 | <MajoraZ> | Obviously, imageshack infamously purged much of their content, but I am hoping that somebody at the archiveteam has or knows of archives of some of its images which might be helpful here, especially since Tomas's IS gallery still displays names and specific urls for each of his uploads, the image itself just never loads. |
| 01:07:12 | <MajoraZ> | I'm tentatively offering 3$ per image that can be directly traced to a specific skyscrapercity forum post or imageshack upload, and there are ~200 total IS uploads he has made, as well as for any other artwork he has done I don't already have saved even if not on SSC/IS. I can't really lurk with the IRC open for weeks and months, so if anybody is |
| 01:07:13 | <MajoraZ> | interested in helping or otherwise wants to speak to me, please email me at jaberwockomnis@aol.com, or DM me on Twitter (@Majora__Z) or Bluesky (MajoraZ) |
| 01:08:42 | <MajoraZ> | (Also should go without saying but the Waybackmachine doesn't seem to have any of the content here, though I know sometimes tweaking with the URLS to remove specific unnecessary portions of them can get additional waybackmachine hits, so it is possible I missed something) |
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| 01:42:54 | <nicolas17> | JAA: can I make wget-at not save a request/response at all if it gives an error? |
| 01:51:07 | <nicolas17> | I mean, I'm sure I can use lua to skip 403s, but I'd rather not :P |
| 01:52:04 | <@JAA> | nicolas17: I think with a Lua hook, yeah. See docs on the GitHub repo wiki. |
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| 02:26:03 | <@OrIdow6> | Yes |
| 02:26:08 | <@OrIdow6> | write_to_warc |
| 02:26:55 | <@OrIdow6> | Also nicolas17 I think arkiver and I are the ones who know more about using wget_lua, J A A is more qwarc |
| 02:27:10 | <@JAA> | Yeah |
| 02:27:34 | <@JAA> | I know what wget-at can do and have stared at the code a fair bit, but I don't actually use it. |
| 03:51:22 | <DigitalDragons> | returning false from write_to_warc still writes the request, I think |
| 03:51:28 | <DigitalDragons> | just not the response |
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| 04:18:41 | <Webuser491423> | I'm getting an SSL certificate warning (expired). Everything OK? |
| 04:19:31 | <pokechu22> | On what? |
| 04:20:31 | <Webuser491423> | Connecting to hackint via IRC client. (It won't let me connect unless I override the warning.) |
| 04:22:26 | <pokechu22> | Hmm, probably best to ask about that in #hackint |
| 04:23:49 | <Commander001> | Yeah, I got that too yesterday |
| 04:27:23 | <nicolas17> | ok I'm uploading deduplicated warcs to https://archive.org/details/macos-installassistant-22H306-warc and https://archive.org/details/macos-installassistant-23H301-warc |
| 04:27:36 | <nicolas17> | I hope they can be used by WBM eventually ._. |
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| 05:30:09 | <@OrIdow6> | Correct DigitalDragons |
| 05:37:00 | <@JAA> | FWIW, disabling writing to WARC from the response handler in qwarc writes neither request nor response. |
| 05:37:31 | <@JAA> | Practically, this doesn't matter much because virtually all software ignores request records anyway, either entirely or at least when they're not associated with a response. |
| 05:41:59 | <@OrIdow6> | Yeah I see it as a positive |
| 05:42:24 | <@OrIdow6> | A record that we did make the request but the response isn't recorded for whatever reason |
| 05:42:44 | <@OrIdow6> | I believe that malformed responses, closed TCP connections etc. also omit only the response |
| 05:42:59 | <@JAA> | Right |
| 05:43:37 | <@JAA> | I know I thought about it when I implemented that in qwarc but then decided to go this way. |
| 05:44:18 | <@JAA> | I wonder what happens to e.g. cookie jar updates when a response dies half-way through. |
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| 07:25:14 | <@arkiver> | yes the request record is always written |
| 07:26:45 | <@arkiver> | OrIdow6: correct on malformed responses |
| 07:27:03 | <@arkiver> | Wget by itself prevents writing those to a WARC |
| 07:40:31 | <@OrIdow6> | arkiver: Whoops, meant "omit the request" for that |
| 07:41:27 | <@arkiver> | i am not 100% sure if it also skips writing the request for that |
| 07:42:34 | <@arkiver> | nicolas17: PMed you on your web items |
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| 10:48:34 | <maakuth> | greetings. here's a Finnish forum that's going to be closed during December: https://keskustelu.tekniikanmaailma.fi/categories |
| 10:51:00 | <maakuth> | there should be an announcement about it somewhere, but I can't find it at the moment. but it's a forum of a magazine and the editor's e-mail newsletter announced the closure, so I think it's correct |
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| 11:34:28 | <thuban> | maakuth: thanks for the report; i'll start an archivebot job for it. do you know when in december the closure is planned? |
| 11:35:58 | <maakuth> | nope, the newsletter has it "during December" and the announcement that now appeared says "in December" |
| 11:36:58 | <maakuth> | it's the same organization that shuttered MuroBBS a few years ago and they were supportive of the AT archival effort. I've e-mailed the editor to confirm they don't mind this time either |
| 11:37:31 | <maakuth> | not that it shouldn't be archived in that case, but better this way. maybe they can lift some ratelimits or something if you hit such |
| 11:39:48 | <thuban> | going fine so far. sounds like you found the announcement; got a link? |
| 11:40:08 | <maakuth> | it's in the heading of the archive page |
| 11:40:15 | <maakuth> | blah, the forum page I mean |
| 11:41:17 | <thuban> | oic, only shows up with javascript enabled |
| 11:41:56 | <IDK> | Hi, any ETA on when the warc from IA's downtime will be uploaded |
| 11:42:05 | <IDK> | I think only a few got uploaded |
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| 11:46:03 | <thuban> | maakuth: although it seems to link to a blank page... unfortunate. i'll spn it so there's something to cite |
| 11:46:46 | <maakuth> | yeah, they seem to have recycled some old cms widget there, the url says something like summer quiz |
| 11:50:12 | <thuban> | doesn't show up in the spn capture, bah |
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| 12:18:56 | <maakuth> | thuban: I've reached the TM editor via e-mail and he asks for some timelines and wondering about the load. I'll reassure him it's not going to be crazy, but maybe you can hold the start a bit |
| 12:19:56 | <maakuth> | oh, and they thanked about MuroBBS |
| 12:21:19 | <maakuth> | or is it in fact running already 🤔 |
| 12:21:39 | <maakuth> | oh yes, I can see it on the dashboard |
| 12:22:18 | <thuban> | maakuth: yes, it's running. default archivebot load is 3 concurrent connections each with 275-350ms pauses between requests. i've seen no signs of instability, but we can adjust settings if they wish |
| 12:22:49 | <maakuth> | ok, sounds fine. I'll let them know about the rate |
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