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02:29:06<h2ibot>Nulldata edited Deathwatch (+213, /* 2024 */ Added Netcomics - shutting down on…): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=53718&oldid=53709
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02:53:47<@OrIdow6>End of the year rush heating up
02:55:35<@arkiver>yeah...
02:55:41<@arkiver>let's make a channel for mangaz!
02:55:43<@arkiver>any ideas?
02:57:34<@arkiver>JAA: are the websites of untergrund.net something for AB?
02:58:13<@arkiver>so many comic hosters shutting down too
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05:32:08<@JAA>I like #mangoes.
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06:26:31<@arkiver>let's go with #mangoes
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09:23:51<VonGuard>fuck
09:30:46<@OrIdow6^2>VonGuard: -ot
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10:04:50<Far-Breakfast-5808>Hello! I'd like to make a request for archiving. Full details can be read at https://www.reddit.com/r/manga/comments/1gk2nq6/manga_library_z_an_online_site_that_distributed/, but to keep it succinct, a Japanese website that offered thousands of old and out-of-print manga, for free, is shutting down on November 26. Given that many of these manga
10:04:51<Far-Breakfast-5808>could potentially become lost media if they're not backed up in time (or the service fails to live on in another form), I'm asking if anyone here could try to save as much as they can. It seems that there are some rippers that could try to download from the website, but it uses a scrambling feature to prevent regular downloads, so any rippers will
10:04:51<Far-Breakfast-5808>need to take that into account. There is a race against time so it would be great if someone or people here could try to archive the site before it's gone. Thank you!
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10:13:04<VonGuard>i dunno, very much on topic. archive is gonna have a doubley hard time in the coming years, as it holds truth. Truth is over. Truth is the enemy. Ya'll don't know how bad it's about to get for you. This is some Orwell shit about to happen
10:13:59<VonGuard>archive is about to be the library of Alexandria, because nothing offends raw power hungry dipshits like trump more than the truth. Grouse all you want. You have been warned.
10:14:29<VonGuard>I wish to god it weren't so
10:14:33<VonGuard>but wish in one hand.....
10:16:55<VonGuard>quadrumple the backups
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10:29:44<@OrIdow6^2>!msg Far-Breakfast-5808 thanks for the report about manga-z! Do you have any ways we could start learning about the scrambling feature?
10:29:49<@OrIdow6^2>!tell Far-Breakfast-5808 thanks for the report about manga-z! Do you have any ways we could start learning about the scrambling feature?
10:29:49<eggdrop>[tell] ok, I'll tell Far-Breakfast-5808 when they join next
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10:36:37<h2ibot>OrIdow6 edited Deathwatch (-12, Accord's Library is dead): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=53719&oldid=53718
10:38:04<@OrIdow6^2>One day I'd really like to do that project of replacing DW with some kind of issue tracker
10:38:36<@arkiver>OrIdow6^2: i mean, we could always just have a repo on github with issues that are mirrored to the Deathwatch page.
10:39:00<@arkiver>JAA: what do you think? should we create that? ^
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10:44:53<@OrIdow6^2>arkiver: Ofc I'd prefer to self-host, but the issue last time this was discussed was that no one wanted to host it, so yeah, I'd support that
10:45:50<@OrIdow6^2>My grand dream for this includes an IRC bot where you can say "!dw cohost dead" and it marks cohost as dead or the like (though perhaps I'm just fed up by how unergonomic DW is that I'm fantasizing of the opposite)
10:46:50<@arkiver>OrIdow6^2: that may be nice yeah!
10:47:45<@arkiver>I am perhaps a bit careful for having yet another thing floating around that needs maintenance on the long term, so a simple github repo as issue tracker may be best. the bot could perhaps interact with it, while allowing humans to post messages on it as well.
10:47:54<@arkiver>OrIdow6^2: ^ (second message)
10:48:29<@arkiver>and yes I agree deathwatch is a big clunky old annoying list - but it has worked consistently so far
11:04:54<@arkiver>rewby: ping for an invite to #mangoes :)
11:05:44<@rewby>arkiver: What's up?
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11:22:37<steering>OrIdow6^2: could probably do something like that with a wiki bot... :)
11:36:34<@OrIdow6^2>arkiver: As I like complexity sadly agreed
11:37:05<@OrIdow6^2>steering: Hmm, like, make a project page for every little thing and have infobox project synchronized with DW? Not a bad idea...
11:38:36<steering>OrIdow6^2: I was just thinking something that goes through and finds the line containing whatever keyword you enter, and moves it, lol
11:41:09<@OrIdow6^2>steering: More than the single line would be desirable IMO for additional info - project lead (someone to harass when it gets close to the shutdown date), details on how much we archived...
11:42:11<@OrIdow6^2>But yeah even something that moves them to the dead section would be nice
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12:05:31@OrIdow6^2 sees that basically this exact same conversation happened in June 2021
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12:15:13<@OrIdow6^2>On tha I'll bite - why is semantic mediawiki implausible? The hosting deal doesn't allow for it?
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17:24:31<noname>How can I actually search a file with this database? https://archive.org/details/archiveteam_egloos
17:25:27<noname>Or text
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17:33:21<nicolas17>noname: there is no text search, you would need to know the original URL
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20:37:55<Ryz>Can anyone be willing to help find content for http://courses.umass.edu/ and http://people.umass.edu/ ? Regarding what tmbr posted and such in #archiveteam
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20:40:43<Ryz>Gonna do a DuckDuckGo check of both of the URLs, with site:http://courses.umass.edu/ and site:http://people.umass.edu/
20:47:47<@JAA>arkiver, OrIdow6^2: I'd rather see us move away from GitHub entirely than put something that important there (especially given its poor history of getting the issue data migrated elsewhere at a later time). I'm not sure about Semantic MediaWiki; I know I asked about it in the past (when the wiki was migrated to the current host, maybe?), and I think there was a reason why it couldn't or wouldn't be
20:47:53<@JAA>done, but I don't remember what it was.
20:48:31<@JAA>Last time this topic came up (was that really in 2021? feels more recent...), the idea was to use our Gitea instance, which has been in semi-functional limbo for far too long.
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23:13:46<Ryz>Just did Google for both of the URLs with site:http://courses.umass.edu/ and site:http://people.umass.edu/
23:13:50<Ryz>Found some extras from it
23:15:45<Ryz>Wuh? https://people.umass.edu/aizen/ is just the same as https://people.umass.edu/~aizen/ - this is dumbbbb D:
23:18:12<Ryz>May need help on trying to determine what to do on having one with '~' or one without it~ :C
23:18:41<seacow>Ryz You can use the wayback machine CDX server to discover more people, eg. list all urls the wayback machine knows about, truncate to people.umass.edu/<name>, then start crawling from there
23:22:32<Ryz>Hmm, I'm not sure if that's back up or not, the CDX
23:22:42<seacow>It is
23:22:46<seacow>https://web.archive.org/web/*/people.umass.edu*
23:23:06<seacow>Actually that page doesn't use the CDX servers, but they do work
23:23:40<Ryz>Might need more than 10,000 results just incase~
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23:28:49<seacow>The web UI limits itself to 10,000 results but if you use the cdx api directly you can get all of them (which is around 180,000 unique pages)
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23:32:31<seacow>API documentation: https://github.com/internetarchive/wayback/tree/master/wayback-cdx-server
23:32:31<seacow>Download all results for people.umass.edu: curl "https://web.archive.org/cdx/search/cdx?url=people.umass.edu*&collapse=digest&showResumeKey=false" -o umass
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23:54:08<h2ibot>Usernam edited List of websites excluded from the Wayback Machine (+32): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=53720&oldid=53715