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| 01:00:03 | <pabs> | I'd like to clone the AT wiki using git-mediawiki, is going to be OK? |
| 01:01:25 | <pabs> | also does ArchiveTeam have ways to archive sites that only support ancient TLS versions no longer supported by browsers/wget/etc? |
| 01:02:08 | <pabs> | for eg this MoinMoin instance https://ng.uavp.ch/ |
| 01:03:23 | <@JAA> | Not sure re git-mediawiki; it'd be nice if it could be imported from the XML dumps instead. |
| 01:05:03 | <nicolas17> | oh man, importing wiki into git is the only sane way to "blame" where a change came from |
| 01:05:19 | <@JAA> | ArchiveBot should be configured as openly as possible without recompiling OpenSSL. IIRC, SSLv3 and v2 can't be enabled that way anymore. Not entirely sure about TLS 1.0. |
| 01:06:00 | <@JAA> | Looks like that should work fine. |
| 01:06:23 | <@JAA> | Using AB's openssl.conf with curl gets through, at least. |
| 01:06:48 | <@JAA> | So that answers the TLS 1.0 question, I guess, since that's the newest the server supports. |
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| 01:13:58 | <@JAA> | nicolas17: Yeah, it baffles me that MW still doesn't have a built-in blame. That's like the second key thing you want from versioning things, apart from being able to restore an older revision... |
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| 04:23:01 | <nulldata> | https://www.livemint.com/companies/koo-once-touted-as-india-s-twitter-alternative-shuts-down-after-sale-talks-fail-11719994191676.html |
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| 06:01:31 | <Barto> | JAA: then SSL3 is a compile flag, right? |
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| 07:19:06 | <yarrow> | Is anyone aware of any large-scale projects for automatically archiving podcasts with public RSS feeds? |
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| 08:32:02 | <pabs> | yarrow: if the feeds are in wikidata, then urls-sources & IA will download the podcasts /cc arkiver |
| 08:32:11 | <pabs> | https://github.com/ArchiveTeam/urls-sources/blob/master/43200_podcast_feeds_automated.txt |
| 08:32:40 | <pabs> | also some additional non-wikidata ones https://github.com/ArchiveTeam/urls-sources/blob/master/43200_podcast_feeds.txt |
| 08:36:16 | <yarrow> | Please excuse my ignorance. What is wikidata? |
| 08:37:19 | <pabs> | https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Main_Page |
| 08:46:02 | <yarrow> | When I search on archive.org for many popular podcasts, I can't find any archive of them. So, I think the system is missing a lot. |
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| 09:03:48 | <pabs> | quite possibly. any in particular? |
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| 09:09:31 | <yarrow> | For example, Oprah's Super Soul. |
| 09:10:05 | <yarrow> | 30,700 ratings on Apple Podcasts. Not in the Internet Archive. |
| 09:10:32 | <yarrow> | Well, it will be in about an hour or two because I'm uploading it now. |
| 09:12:45 | <pabs> | looks like thats https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q109892536 |
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| 09:14:33 | <pabs> | has a web feed URL there too |
| 09:15:11 | <yarrow> | But I can't find it on archive.org. |
| 09:21:44 | <yarrow> | As a test, I looked for Serial, possibly the most popular podcast there's ever been. 74K ratings on Apple Podcasts. Hundreds of millions of downloads. Can't find it on archive.org. |
| 09:28:41 | <pabs> | https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q18357077 |
| 09:28:46 | <pabs> | also has a feed there |
| 09:29:15 | <pabs> | arkiver: seems like the automatic podcast stuff in urls-sources is missing some podcasts from wikidata |
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| 09:40:25 | <yarrow> | I've manually uploaded about 80 podcasts to the Internet Archive over the last month and I've barely seen any podcasts on there already |
| 09:40:33 | <yarrow> | I think the process must be somehow broken |
| 09:40:52 | <yarrow> | (barely seen any podcasts that I've checked for before uploading them myself) |
| 09:48:21 | <h2ibot> | Exorcism uploaded File:Gamebanana-logo.png: https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?title=File%3AGamebanana-logo.png |
| 09:49:10 | <pabs> | the urls-sources ones end up in web.archive.org, not in archive.org |
| 09:49:21 | <h2ibot> | Exorcism uploaded File:Gamebanana-screenshot.png: https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?title=File%3AGamebanana-screenshot.png |
| 09:49:22 | <h2ibot> | Exorcism edited GameBanana (+65): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=52633&oldid=52622 |
| 09:53:55 | <yarrow> | pabs: doesn't that mean the audio won't get archived? |
| 09:54:27 | <pabs> | if the RSS feeds link to the audio then the audio will get archived |
| 10:07:11 | <yarrow> | hmm okay that's interesting |
| 10:09:48 | <pabs> | for example https://feeds.simplecast.com/ogVFqYzM "Cause an Affect" -> first episode in the list is archived: https://web.archive.org/web/20210301155320/https://cdn.simplecast.com/audio/b4dd02/b4dd0249-1f35-45ce-aa28-9087c00c1419/fcefaf1d-4a62-4895-bd2f-7b82562e17e3/traci-rossi-podcast_tc.mp3?aid=rss_feed |
| 10:21:36 | <yarrow> | Not great in terms of ease of access, but, yeah, the audio is there |
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| 11:10:07 | <yarrow> | Thank you for enlightening me about this :) |
| 11:15:02 | <yarrow> | Do you know when podcast audio began getting archived in this way? I'm trying to see if it's practical for recovering some lost podcasts, such as this one: https://www.earwolf.com/show_archive/raised-by-tv-archive/ |
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| 13:07:14 | <pabs> | yarrow: 2022 according to git log |
| 13:07:27 | <pabs> | datechnoman: Tue Apr 19 14:57:14 2022 +0200 |
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| 13:56:32 | <@JAA> | Barto: I think so, but I haven't checked. It's possible they've removed SSLv2 and/or SSLv3 entirely by now. |
| 14:03:29 | <@JAA> | SSLv2 was removed in 1.1.0. Don't see anything about SSLv3 having been dropped. |
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| 14:31:47 | <TheTechRobo> | I'm surprised the AB pipelines are new enough that this is a problem. :P |
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| 22:08:05 | <datechnoman> | all good mate pabs |
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