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05:45:01<c3manu>since i got no answer in #archivebot: question for someone better versed in all that funky crypto currency business: is it worth archiving pages for individual "blocks", like this for example? https://localmonero.co/blocks/id/block/3145788 17:05:04 <c3manu> this information should all be available on the blockchain anyways, no?
05:45:38<c3manu>localmonero.co job is fetching loads of urls like https://localmonero.co/blocks/tx/42b20c5496c188e0c03f8f8937fc6b9a8318b2fa576dc9ee19f5350d9f1a199a and i don't know whether it makes sense to grab them or not
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07:01:56<pabs>this person died https://farley.io/ https://www.facebook.com/erin.a.farley/posts/pfbid02vjt7TCCmE5cSTrpiPVBqgHMokRCirSvaPZDEzUNrJd5sT2k6vd2gEkGY554DTxSTl
07:02:13<pabs>can someone AB / #gitgud / etc?
07:02:31<pabs>(they were from the mercurial/hg community)
07:04:55<pabs>thalia: AT can save things that are online right now, I think thats about it. archive.org does archiving of physical things such as printed catalogs.
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07:17:12<c3manu>pabs: what's their full name? with how shitty google has become i can't get anything better than "Tyler Polley's mercurial UConn career", but i don't thing that's him ^^"
07:17:30<pabs>Sean Farley
07:17:52<c3manu>so tyler was wrong, too. thanks :)
07:18:43<c3manu>this one? https://farley.io/
07:19:19<c3manu>ah, the last blog category he wrote in is Mercurial, so i guess that's him
07:20:10<pabs>yea, I linked that above :)
07:21:01<c3manu>ohh..i'm super blind then, nvm m)
07:32:21<pabs>wow, they have a lot of subdomains c3manu
07:32:58<c3manu>got to have infrastructure set up for yourself ;)
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09:08:03<c3manu>any idea what might be good to grab regarding the georgian government? https://www.economist.com/europe/2024/05/09/protests-against-a-russian-style-law-threaten-georgias-government
09:15:22<c3manu>you know..in case it gets euromaidan’d or sth
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12:53:04<AK>Well I can't even access https://parliament.ge/ from home or from the hetzner helsinki boxes, so dunno how we'd do that one
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13:01:35<hexa->> Sorry, you have been blocked
13:01:46<hexa->from my home isp … sus
13:01:56<Notrealname1234>Block
13:02:10<Notrealname1234>You did sus things
13:05:19<@OrIdow6>Sounds like we need a Georgian (or maybe Russian?) IP
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13:21:23<eightthree>re [IA•Wcite•.today•MemWeb] links in the wiki or elsewhere, should there be a indication when the link doesnt actually have the page?
13:22:15<eightthree>why are some sites in the wiki listed under more than one category, such as 4chan and mastodon being under lost sites and partially saved, simultaneously?
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13:27:21<thuban>eightthree: not really possible without manual intervention; mediawiki can generate links to those archives but not actually check what's on them (but altering the url template to better handle archive links has been previously discussed)
13:29:01<thuban>eightthree: usually because different subsets of content have different statuses (eg, one mastodon instance is lost but another is saved); all of the status links add their containing pages to the corresponding category
13:29:13<thuban>s/status links/status templates/
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14:48:13<eightthree>"Google plans to close down more than 20 million Google Business Profile websites" I saw a mention of this in deathwatch, but shouldn't this have warranted a page on wiki, major saving effort and mention on the homepage etc?
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15:07:18<eightthree>+(edit: planned for around march)
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16:05:47<@OrIdow6>On that topic did anything ever happen with the idea to replace DW with a BTS?
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17:04:19<hexa->OrIdow6: doesn't work from a russia either
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17:05:10<hexa->confirmed by a friend from his internet connection at home in moscow
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18:09:56<c3manu>currently running through the gov.ge subdomains
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18:33:42<joepie91|m>AK: can confirm that parliament.ge loads for someone I know in georgia, so it is indeed a geoblock
18:38:39<c3manu>good to know, thanks! :)
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20:12:38<tech234a>Broadcom's migration of VMWare content to a new platform seems to have broken a number of links (including downloads) on VMWare's website. Fortunately I was able to find the file I wanted from their software update server, but I'm not sure how strong the archive coverage is for that server. There seem to be a number of root directories on that server, could someone put them into AB? What I could find (probably incomplete) was:
20:12:39<tech234a>https://softwareupdate.vmware.com/cds https://softwareupdate.vmware.com/horizon-clients https://softwareupdate.vmware.com/viewcrt-windows https://softwareupdate.vmware.com/cds-ws-fus-2013-preview https://softwareupdate.vmware.com/cds-ws-fus-2012-preview https://softwareupdate.vmware.com/cds-ws-fus-2011-beta https://softwareupdate.vmware.com/cds-ws71-fus31-beta
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20:37:53<nicolas17>Broadcom's migration of VMWare content to a new platform seems to have broken a lot of things
20:38:38<nicolas17>I heard of someone who had an active support ticket with VMware, and when it was migrated to Broadcom's platform it lost the last few days of replies
20:39:58<nicolas17>support articles were moved without keeping their "last modified" date so you have grossly outdated information that says it's from march 2024
20:40:05<nicolas17>because that's when it was moved
21:08:52<eightthree>thuban: Maybe a seperate category called "some hosts lost"? Is the wiki "move fast and break things", i.e. make changes first, or should I ask first here?
21:09:05<eightthree>* without asking,
21:16:48<fireonlive>interesting the <title>s for those are '/var/www/public/stage/session-103/cds' etc
21:16:56<fireonlive>last one is '/www/stage/session-97/cds-ws-fus-2012-preview'
21:17:49<fireonlive>eightthree: would partially saved not cover that?
21:18:03<fireonlive>it also implies partially lost
21:18:40<fireonlive>glass half full/glass half empty
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21:23:55<eightthree>Just confirming before (or while) I nag my matrix bridge mod : adding #archiveteam and #archiveteam-ot should work right? I joined a bunch of AT rooms yesterday just fine, but these 2 today are failing to add.
21:29:48<thuban>eightthree: if by that you mean altering the status templates so as not to put a page in multiple status categories, then no, because mediawiki templates can't actually do that (they don't know what other templates are used on the containing page/what categories the containing page is in)
21:29:56<thuban>if you just mean creating a new category, calling it "some hosts lost", and adding all pages in multiple status categories to it, then still no, because use of multiple categories is often not about "hosts" (it may instead be about entirely different sites on the same topic, or different parts of the same site, or the same site at different times)
21:44:53<eightthree>fireonlive: I guess, so maybe just remove from lost category (and leave it in partial)?
21:49:01<@JAA>fireonlive: It's about pages like [[Mastodon]] where we list multiple projects and some were saved, some partially saved, some lost.
21:49:13<fireonlive>ahh
21:49:24<fireonlive>hm
21:49:25<@JAA>I don't think there's a better approach than what we do now. These pages act as containers for multiple different sites/parts/whatever.
21:49:40<fireonlive>yeah that would make sense
21:49:44<@JAA>We'd have to create individual pages for each to split it up, and that's not reasonable for such small things, I think.
21:54:05<eightthree>Just thinking out loud here: I'm noticing a lot of "manual" adding to AB, such as in YT, github room etc. Is there enough bandwidth to build a tool that pulls i.e. all bankruptcies in a jurisdiction as mentioned in official govt or mandatory news "ads", and thus programmatically find all-the-links (social accounts etc.) and add these to AB?
21:54:09<eightthree>I'm noticing a lot of AI projects called agents, such as BabyAGI or Autogpt and possibly better newer ones. I'll report back more if I play with tools that seem reliable enough.
21:54:11<eightthree>Yada yada, context: I was trying to searching for "closing down" "closing up" "shutting down" "filed for receivership" "until .. to backup/save" etc. with google search and google news but that quickly became too slow. The hardest might be filtering for large enough companies and/or those with "particularly added value" web-accessible data.
21:55:45<@JAA>Automating the searching has been discussed before, and we actually wanted to try that at one point but then it got stalled.
21:56:19<@JAA>The filtering would probably have to remain manual.
21:57:21<eightthree>https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/Who_We_Are - I'm also surprised coder/scripters, automation or AI experts aren't mentioned as needed. Maybe AI is questionably reliable still, but the others shouldn't be, right?
21:58:06<eightthree>solved: I was able to join #AT and AT-ot
21:59:02<@JAA>That page has hardly been edited for over a decade.
22:02:56<joepie91|m>wanted: wiki maintainers
22:02:57<joepie91|m>:p
22:03:47<@JAA>:-)
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22:08:58<fireonlive>i need to edit it some more
22:11:17<h2ibot>FireonLive edited Current Projects (-68, move around current projects): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=52235&oldid=52006
22:13:17<h2ibot>FireonLive edited DeviantArt (-5, mark groups as saved): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=52236&oldid=51927
22:13:19<fireonlive>dunno if 'partially' is better there
22:13:36<fireonlive>it was declared very successful
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22:31:22<h2ibot>FireonLive edited Who We Are (-571, remove some outdated info; this page could use…): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=52237&oldid=45931
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22:53:15<Notrealname1234>What's the MEGA.nz API URL, so i can archive some stuff on WBM?
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23:09:18<nicolas17>the what
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23:41:40<@JAA>They think that the download from MEGA is a simple API request. It's far more involved IIRC.
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23:47:36<nicolas17>yes you need multiple API requests to get the *encrypted* file, and then decrypt it yourself locally

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