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04:05:40<fireonlive>helldivers update: https://twitter.com/PlayStation/status/1787331667616829929
04:07:37<fireonlive>screenshot: https://dl.fireon.live/irc/91e51f9ec09afbad/PlayStation-1787331667616829929.png
04:12:09<xkey>moin
04:20:57<fireonlive>moin
04:28:10<thalia>moin
04:30:34<Terbium>moin
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05:42:38<Ryz>Heya folks, I have a bit of a silly request; can someone help me (with me providing said text file when they're available to take up the request) sort by how many forward slashes are there? '/' - this stuff; highest number goes on top, lowest (ideally just 3) are at the bottom
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05:43:11<Ryz>Asking for help because this is a way for me to tackle the list as frictionless as possible from my end~
05:44:05<Ryz>Text files are the custom bruteforced Blogspot URLs back on 2024 January that I've now been getting around to on finding extra goodies
05:44:09<Ryz>*Text file
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05:45:17<thuban>Ryz: sure, i'll do it
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05:52:02<Ryz>thuban+++
05:52:02<eggdrop>[karma] 'thuban+' now has 1 karma!
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05:52:14<Ryz>One for a successful text file submission just moments ago
05:52:17<Ryz>thuban+++
05:52:17<eggdrop>[karma] 'thuban+' now has 2 karma!
05:52:25<Ryz>The other is the other text file weeks ago~
05:52:35<Ryz>Did I do it right...?
05:52:46<pabs>++ instead of +++ :)
05:52:49<Ryz>Aww crap
05:52:54<thuban>it's the thought that counts
05:52:55<Ryz>Hold onnn <#>;
05:53:01<Ryz>thuban---
05:53:02<eggdrop>[karma] 'thuban-' now has -1 karma!
05:53:17<Ryz>Ugh, I'm messing things uppppp
05:53:19<Ryz>thuban++
05:53:25<Ryz>xDDDDDD
05:53:36<Ryz>Well, never seen this message before
05:54:00<thuban>(for logs: `awk -F/ '{ print NF-1 "\t" $0 }' | sort -rn | grep -v ^0 | cut -f2`)
05:54:44<pabs>thuban+--
05:54:45<eggdrop>[karma] 'thuban+' now has 1 karma!
05:54:47<pabs>thuban-++
05:54:49<eggdrop>[karma] 'thuban-' now has 0 karma!
05:54:55<pabs>thuban+--
05:54:55<eggdrop>[karma] 'thuban+' now has 0 karma!
05:55:03<pabs>thuban++
05:55:21<pabs>aw, it thinks I'm flooding
05:55:29<fireonlive>!kfind thuban
05:55:29<eggdrop>[karma] 3 matches for 'thuban': thuban: '4' thuban+: '0' thuban-: '0'
05:55:55<pabs>is there a delete?
05:56:04<fireonlive>i should reap 0 karma after some time
05:56:58<fireonlive>thuban++
05:56:59<eggdrop>[karma] 'thuban' now has 5 karma!
05:57:00<fireonlive>haha
05:57:40<fireonlive>had to stare for a sec to see if he got it in the end
06:04:48<Vokun>!kfind Vokun
06:04:49<eggdrop>[karma] 1 matches for 'Vokun': Vokun: '1'
06:07:28<Ryz>thuban++
06:07:29<eggdrop>[karma] 'thuban' now has 6 karma!
06:07:32<Ryz>thuban++
06:07:32<eggdrop>[karma] 'thuban' now has 7 karma!
06:07:40<Ryz>Some proper credit, here >#<;
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06:14:41<Vokun>thuban++
06:14:41<eggdrop>[karma] 'thuban' now has 8 karma!
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15:02:08<hak335>Hi, can someone explain to me how a feature on archive.org works?
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15:06:02<@JAA>hak335: #internetarchive is better suited for that.
15:06:49<ghgffba>JAA it has to do with archiveteam
15:07:17<@JAA>Well then
15:07:20<ghgffba>In some URLs, a "why: archiveteam" is present
15:07:36<ghgffba>does this mean that the URL is present in the archiveteam collection?
15:07:51<@JAA>It means that snapshot is coming from somewhere in our collection, yeah.
15:08:16<ghgffba>can I locate, from the URL, the collection that it is in?
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15:09:38<@JAA>It should normally tell you the more narrow subcollection in the same line. E.g. '(why: archiveteam, archiveteam_urls)'
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15:10:21<@JAA>What are you looking for?
15:10:47<ghgffba>This archved link https://web.archive.org/web/20210618084138/https://twitter.com/DegenSpartan/status/1000433616701218816
15:11:00<ghgffba>It only says "why:archiveteam"
15:11:47<ghgffba>I have noticed the archiveteam archives twitter and so I want to know  what collection they usually store twitter in
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15:23:14<ghgffba>JAA is that not something that can be known from the URL?
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15:32:27<nulldata>ghgffba - The only Twitter specific collection from AT I think is this one. https://archive.org/details/twitterstream which I don't think has what you're looking for. I believe most of the Twitter grabbing was done with ArchiveBot, so it would be buried in the ArchiveBot collection. https://archive.org/details/archivebot When Twitter became heavily
15:32:27<nulldata>restricted there was a time we were only able to grab with third-party clients like nitter.net so for anything post-Elon you'd need to look for those URLs instead of twitter.com.
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15:37:31<nulldata>Also to note we haven't been able to grab Twitter stuff since Twitter killed "guest tokens" a few months back.
15:38:45<ghgffba>nulldata so it would be in a GO Pack ?
15:40:48<ghgffba>I've noticed also that archiveteam_urls are unavailable for download, is there a reason for this?
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15:50:58<nulldata>Usually yes. Though as you noted the one you linked to is strange since it doesn't list the collection. Maybe an item didn't get put into the AB collection? Or maybe collection listing on WB worked differently back then?
15:51:55<ghgffba>nulldata honestly, most that I find from twitter by the archiveteam are like this
15:52:21<nulldata>I think the urls items are restricted for legal concerns since it's basically a fire-hose of stuff.
15:53:02<ghgffba>wouldn't that apply to the bot too however?
15:54:04<ghgffba>here's another example of this only displaying archiveteam in the why
15:54:11<@JAA>AB has manually triggered targeted crawls. URLs grabs random stuff from all over the web. So not really comparable, no.
15:54:22<ghgffba>https://web.archive.org/web/20221015000000*/https://twitter.com/DegenSpartan/status/1047014048888426496
15:54:23<ghgffba>https://web.archive.org/web/20220315000000*/https://twitter.com/DegenSpartan/status/1053530126942490624
15:57:26<ghgffba>JAA would a targeted crawl with AB on twitter archived every single tweet a targeted account has replied to or something? I say this because I feel like some account that have "why:archiveteam" seem way too small to have been chosen for crawling
15:59:37<@JAA>We did quite a bit of Twitter archiving with AB back before Elon ruined it. That included replies. I don't see a run directly for this account, but it might've been part of a list that was run through or something.
16:00:38<@JAA>No idea why it doesn't show the collection here, but I have seen various issues with that 'why' display before, including where it says it isn't in any collection. Might be an indexing thing.
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16:01:49<@JAA>Maybe we should put an FAQ entry on the wiki about access-restricted collections. Cc arkiver
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16:02:35<ghgffba>You mention you don't see a run, Is there a way to see what accounts were archived?
16:03:46<@JAA>Not really, those jobs weren't even indexed by the viewer due to a bug. I just grepped my channel logs.
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16:09:31<Notrealname1234>fireonlive: your bot broke and left
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16:12:55<pabs><vort3> geminispace.info going to shut down on 1st of June 2024.
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16:14:02<pabs>looks like it doesn't support http:// only gemini:// though
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16:37:02<@arkiver>JAA: interesting on marginalia and WARCs
16:38:01<Notrealname1234>Do you need to have a reason to archive stuff on #mediaonfire like #down-the-tube ?
16:43:41<fireonlive>Notrealname1234: nope
16:43:54<fireonlive>go crazy
16:43:56<Notrealname1234>Oh ok
16:48:41<Notrealname1234>fireonlive: not even copyright can stop it?
16:55:53<@JAA>Notrealname1234: Most sensible jurisdictions have an exemption in copyright law for archival/preservation. Also, virtually everything we archive is copyrighted because that's how copyright works. Even most non-trivial messages in here are copyrighted.
16:56:12<Notrealname1234>Oh ok
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17:16:10<nulldata>This message is copyrighted. Please do not violate my ©opyright by reading this message.
17:17:15<Notrealname1234>I read it
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17:54:53<Notrealname1234>Is there a way to request URLs on URLTeam
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17:56:24<fireonlive>url shorteners?
17:56:41<Notrealname1234>fireonlive: yes
17:57:47<fireonlive>#urlteam with as much description as you have of it, what the url space is like (custom urls?), what errors look like, what success looks like
17:58:42<fireonlive>flashfire42 can add ones that don't require code changes if he's available
17:58:53<fireonlive>code changes -> specialized code
17:58:59<Notrealname1234>That isn't a url shortener
17:59:06<Notrealname1234>Like this bit.ly/UnlockMyWii
18:02:04<Notrealname1234>fireonlive ^
18:04:37<@JAA>URLTeam can't do custom codes. Also, please use the relevant project channel for your questions.
18:04:52<Notrealname1234>Ok
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18:18:20<ghgffba>Does removal of a URL from the Wayback Machine remove it from the ArchiveBot warc(for example)? Or is it just from the Wayback Machine search
18:26:46<pokechu22>The warc file isn't modified, but they may make the entire warc file unavailable for download in some cases IIRC
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18:31:05<thalia>Have any of you heard of the TLIB version control system? It was a major VCS for DOS/Windows in the '90s
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18:42:51<ghgffba>pokechu22 wouldn't that mean the Wayback Machine is GDPR non-compliant?
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18:47:21<pokechu22>¯\_(ツ)_/¯
18:47:36<DigitalDragons>there is an exemption for archives
18:47:43<fireonlive>(keeping in mind that archiveteam != internet archive) this sounds like an #internetarchive discussion at best (also an unofficial channel). if you wish to reach engage IA about such info@archive.org or the details at the bottom of https://archive.org/about/terms.php is your best bet
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18:49:37<nicolas17>ghgffba: that URL is in https://archive.org/details/archiveteam_twitter_20210618084430_5c8a071e
18:49:50<nicolas17>but its warcs are not downloadable
18:50:05<nicolas17>so knowing that the collection is https://archive.org/details/archiveteam_twitter won't help you muck
18:50:06<nicolas17>much
18:50:27<ghgffba>nicolas17 how did you find that? I've been looking for days for ways to derive the collection of something from the url
18:50:51<nicolas17>HTTP headers
18:51:03<nicolas17>curl -I https://web.archive.org/web/20210618084138/https://twitter.com/DegenSpartan/status/1000433616701218816
18:51:04<nicolas17>returns
18:51:08<nicolas17>x-archive-src: archiveteam_twitter_20210618084430_5c8a071e/twitter_20210618084430_5c8a071e.1623687446.megawarc.warc.zst
18:52:40<ghgffba>DigitalDragons Since this is the "archive shit to save it" irc chat I obviously don't want to argue preservation, but there are caveats to that that exemption
18:55:18<ghgffba>nicolas17 is there a reason why the collection says "Storage_size 0 B (in 0 files)"
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18:57:28<nicolas17>hm seems it's access-restricted so you can't see the items in the collection?
18:57:43<nicolas17>the items don't let you download their files, but I didn't know the collection also didn't list its items
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21:54:10<BornOn420>Does anybody know how the Telegram bot discovers comments? Are comments only discovered for new posts or also for existing posts for recurring channels?
21:59:39<@JAA>→ #telegrab
21:59:51<BornOn420>OK
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22:01:43<Notrealname1234>Now that i think about it, i should join every AT channel (no archiveteam-sucks folks)
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22:09:05<Notrealname1234>Done
22:09:42<fireonlive>man has real irc client
22:10:04<fireonlive>ish; Revolution IRC:0.5.2:Android
22:10:07<fireonlive>:d
22:10:34<Notrealname1234>What are you gonna do about it
22:10:43<Notrealname1234>It's android
22:10:46<fireonlive>literally nothing
22:10:55<@JAA>Once the reconnects become annoying enough, measures will be taken. :-)
22:11:04<Notrealname1234>How did you know anyway
22:11:06<fireonlive>😈
22:11:23<fireonlive>/ctcp Notrealname1234 VERSION
22:11:29<Notrealname1234>Ok
22:12:27<Notrealname1234>No u wont
22:12:35<fireonlive>lol
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23:39:06<h2ibot>Bear edited Abload (+267, Abload will rest alongside TinyPic on the image…): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=52191&oldid=51772
23:40:06<h2ibot>Bear edited The Chive (-34, updated file name): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=52192&oldid=52043
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23:54:08<h2ibot>Bear edited List of websites excluded from the Wayback Machine (+998, thegreenhead.com also got the Red Sorry of…): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=52193&oldid=52190

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