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00:02:04<qwertyasdfuiopghjkl>Ryz: some more htmlplanet.com subdomains (from a few other subdomain finder sites), deduped against the list t.hat_lurker sent: https://transfer.archivete.am/inline/LImB2/more-htmlplanet.com-subdomains.txt
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00:25:36<h2ibot>BornOn420 edited URLTeam (+164, Added b2n.ir): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=52123&oldid=52104
00:25:37<h2ibot>BornOn420 edited Telegram (+449, Added a paragraph on channel discovery based…): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=52124&oldid=51730
00:25:38<h2ibot>BornOn420 edited ArchiveTeam Warrior (+1730, Added a paragraph on running Orbstack, a Docker…): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=52125&oldid=52044
00:25:39<h2ibot>Boofdev edited Pomf.se/Clones (-79, updated yapc file stats): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=52126&oldid=51795
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02:12:30<TheTechRobo>!tell Guest77 https://replayweb.page is a convenient site for viewing WARCs.
02:12:31<eggdrop>[tell] ok, I'll tell Guest77 when they join next
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03:19:57<thuban>!tell Guest77 if you want to extract files en masse rather than browse them, you can use `unar`: https://theunarchiver.com/command-line
03:19:58<eggdrop>[tell] ok, I'll tell Guest77 when they join next
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03:26:02<thuban>!tell Guest77 note that because warc records are not necessarily one-to-one with uris (there may be multiple requests for the same location at different times, with different data, etc), simply extracting the whole thing like it's a zip may be 'lossy'; i don't know specifically how unar handles this
03:26:02<eggdrop>[tell] ok, I'll tell Guest77 when they join next
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03:33:12<Ryz>Heya folks, thanks for doing searching for htmlplanet.com - I have another one being customer.netspace.net.au that I need subdomains being mined from; https://www.subdomain.center/ didn't fetch a lot, just I think 150 results :C
03:33:32<pokechu22>hmm, I feel like I might have done that in the past?
03:35:06<pokechu22>Yeah, I'm pretty sure that one's been done before: https://archive.fart.website/archivebot/viewer/?q=netspace.net.au - or at least partially done? flashfire42 did a lot of work with those
03:36:23<pokechu22>... and I did an !a < list on https://transfer.archivete.am/G7mC1/netspace.net.au_subdomains_v2.txt at https://archive.fart.website/archivebot/viewer/job/202307102021426cske
03:36:24<eggdrop>inline (for browser viewing): https://transfer.archivete.am/inline/G7mC1/netspace.net.au_subdomains_v2.txt
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04:57:13<nicolas17>does 7zip for windows support warc?
04:59:37<pokechu22>You can open .warc.gz to get .warc but it doesn't do anything with .warc
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09:23:30<@arkiver>seems like a lot has happened around subtitle sites the last few years
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09:23:51<@arkiver>opensubtitles enshittified further
09:23:54<@arkiver>subscene.com shutting down
09:24:21<@arkiver>which are currently the major subtitle sites? subdl.com ? any other significant ones?
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09:28:47<@arkiver>so subscene.com closing in only a few hours?
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09:31:35<katia>allegedly
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09:38:37<@arkiver>anyone has downloaded the subscene.com dump already and knows what the data looks like?
09:41:18<@arkiver>if someone has already downloaded it, can you please give me a listing of the files inside it?
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10:00:55<c3manu>arkiver: the subscene.com dump from then has been uploaded to subdl.com, but i don't remember the exact URL right now. it is linked in the reddit post from earlier
10:02:16<katia>https://subdl.org/subscene/
10:02:22<katia>this?
10:02:34<c3manu>ah, subdl.org was it. yeah
10:03:45<c3manu>apart from that, i don't know how independent subdl.org is. when checking the download links on https://subdl.org/subtitles/2380/nobody-knows-2020/ for example, they point to URLs like https://subtitle.faylab.com/subdownload.php?dl=/subtitle/1046332-2156610.zip
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10:04:09<c3manu>in fact, you can also use https://subtitle.faylab.com/ for browsing
10:04:18<c3manu>faylab seems to be some AI startup
10:06:23<c3manu>it would be possible the page disappears as well when faylab goes down eventually. but who knows.
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11:41:21<@arkiver>c3manu: hah, nice little investigation, yeah!
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11:46:13<@arkiver>rewby: i have absolutely not idea if i can get a project running in time, but i want to try to get a copy of subscene.com
11:46:53<@arkiver>so can we get a target already set up perhaps?
11:47:20<@arkiver>it would be
11:47:26<@arkiver>archiveteam_subscene_
11:47:27<@arkiver>subscene_
11:47:31<@arkiver>Archive Team Subscene:
11:48:07<@arkiver>let's hope the the site stays on for a tiny bit longer
11:50:14<@arkiver>if someone has a good name for a subscene channel, let's make one
11:50:22<@arkiver>else we will use #archiveteam-bs
11:52:27<@arkiver>JAA: just in case, can you already trigger drone on subscene-grab please?
11:53:08<that_lurker>#subpar maybe.
11:53:49<that_lurker>nevermind katia owns it already :P
11:54:32<angenieux>#submarined maybe
11:55:59<that_lurker>There is also #submissive :P
11:56:16<that_lurker>or a variant #submissing :D
11:56:29<katia>🍆
11:56:37<katia>i like #submissing
11:57:40<@arkiver>ohhh
11:57:48<@arkiver>#submissing sounds awesome
11:58:03<kpcyrd>#submissing is funny lol
11:58:11<angenieux>its good
12:02:06<@arkiver>anyone know exactly how many hours we have left?
12:02:19<@arkiver>hmm 24 hours already passed?
12:02:26<@arkiver>let's hope it stays online
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12:42:09<h2ibot>Nulldata uploaded File:Subscene-logo.gif: https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?title=File%3ASubscene-logo.gif
12:42:38<@arkiver>thanks nulldata
12:42:46<@arkiver>nulldata: are you able to get a good quality version of their icon?
12:44:09<h2ibot>Nulldata uploaded File:Subscene-screenshot.png: https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?title=File%3ASubscene-screenshot.png
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13:02:12<h2ibot>Yzqzss edited 半次元 (-3, All(?) Web APIs are down): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=52129&oldid=50231
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13:06:13<h2ibot>Nulldata created Subscene (+820, Created page): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?title=Subscene
13:08:37<nulldata>arkiver - the only slightly better one I've found was from a Reddit post - however the text seems off. https://lounge.nulldata.foo/uploads/ad21d617075dd9b3/subscene-logo2.png
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13:14:37<@arkiver>thanks for checking nulldata
13:14:52<@arkiver>i'll have the project ready in a few minutes i think
13:14:55<@arkiver>but we have no target yet
13:15:15<h2ibot>Switchnode edited ArchiveTeam Warrior (-1209, /* Advanced usage (container only) */…): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=52131&oldid=52125
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13:31:59<thuban>yzqzss / yts98 / Misty|m: is there a summary of the results of stwp's banciyuan project (maybe on your wiki?) that the archiveteam wiki can link to? i understand you downloaded videos (and images?) that we did not
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13:44:58<thuban>JAA: i don't like the current behavior of the datetime template. if a time is specified without a zone, it renders it as "UTC", but if a time is specified as utc, it has to be rendered as "UTC (UTC+0)"; i think that the former should either be left ambiguous or emit a warning (lest it introduce false precision) and the latter should not be redundant (so that zone can be made
13:45:00<thuban>explicit in the source without looking weird).
13:46:21<thuban>you introduced the current zone handling; would you object to my revising it along those lines? (assuming i don't break it lmao, mediawiki template syntax makes my eyeballs hurt)
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14:39:35<h2ibot>Nulldata edited Subscene (+54, DPoS started): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=52132&oldid=52130
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14:52:08<thuban>JAA: i have an edit mostly ready to go, but either it's very cleverly hidden in the documentation or base mediawiki templating can't actually require parameters or emit errors (?!)
14:52:38<thuban>there's https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Template:Error but idk how much trouble it would be to set up the lua module
14:57:07<c3manu>arkiver: also don't forget the forum.subscene.com. i thought it was running fine yesterday, apparently over night it had to be stalled and is still giving 403s right now
14:59:21<nulldata>c3manu - the forums use heavy Cloudflare unfortunately.
15:00:39<h2ibot>JAABot edited CurrentWarriorProject (+0): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=52133&oldid=52051
15:10:21<yzqzss><thuban> "yzqzss / yts98 / Misty: is there..." <- Most of the work on stwp's banciyuan archive project is done by Misty.
15:10:22<yzqzss>She's been busy with her thesis lately, and doesn't have any free time until May 25th :(
15:10:22<yzqzss>So, there is no project summary on our wiki at the moment, and we haven't done the final stage of metadata cleaning yet.
15:13:16<thuban>ok, just checking! ping me whenever, i'll update the at wiki
15:13:56<thuban>Misty|m: much success with your thesis!
15:15:27<@arkiver>good luck Misty|m :)
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15:17:15<yzqzss>BTW, yts98 is not in STWP.
15:17:15<yzqzss>yts98 doesn't seem to have uploaded Niconico Game_Atsumaru's data to IA yet. i PM'd him on Feb 1st, no reply. He hasn't been on the thread for a long time.
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15:20:15<yzqzss>thread->channel
15:23:57<thuban>ah, my mistake; i had that impression from the #wuciyuan logs
15:27:02<thuban>i messaged him on 10 feb and also got no reply. i still have my portion of the game atsumaru data (~270G of warcs) but no idea where the rest is...
15:28:49<yzqzss>I have deleted them all...
15:29:06<thuban>:(
15:41:27<@arkiver>so lost data?
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15:42:12<thuban>unless yts98 turns up again, looks like it
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15:43:17<thuban>i sniffed around a bit and couldn't find any trace after october of last year. hope he's ok
15:45:45<thuban>(might (still) be on qq? https://www.hw179.com/space-uid-37513.html)
15:46:24<Terbium>#submissing reminds me of the Titan sub incident lol
15:46:53<katia>such a good name
15:46:58<katia>that_lurker++
15:46:58<eggdrop>[karma] 'that_lurker' now has 6 karma!
15:47:27<@arkiver>that_lurker++
15:47:27<eggdrop>[karma] 'that_lurker' now has 7 karma!
15:48:50<thuban>ah, here's the pad we were using: https://pad.notkiska.pw/p/game-atsumaru
15:50:16<yzqzss>yts98 said there was 1.4TB warc in total...
15:51:49<thuban>that was total data, i believe, so more like half that in warc
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15:57:40<thuban>threedeeitguy wasn't here long and disappeared last july, while matatabi doesn't appear in my logs at all...
16:02:50<thuban>arkiver: if i sent you my single giant zst, could you get it onto ia in the manner you suggested in https://hackint.logs.kiska.pw/archiveteam-bs/20230628#c355785 ?
16:03:30<thuban>sorry, i know you're busy, but i've had issues with batch uploads in the past
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16:04:11<yzqzss><thuban> "(might (still) be on qq? https:/..." <- This is probably not him, he is Taiwanese, IIRC. https://github.com/yth98 may be another account of his, but also no activity in 2024.
16:05:07<@arkiver>thuban: hmm sure
16:05:25<@arkiver>you have metadata etc. ready for each item that needs to be created?
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16:07:31<thuban>yzqzss: ah, i wondered about that. you're probably right
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16:16:25<thuban>arkiver: no :/ all i have are game files, warcs, and a handful of json files used in the download process, which might or might not have anything useful
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16:17:10<@arkiver>thuban: how big is the entire zst?
16:17:57<thuban>arkiver: 221G
16:18:21<@arkiver>we can also just upload the entire file to a single IA item for now
16:19:28<@arkiver>as a mediatype=data item
16:22:06<thuban>upload that large seems likely to be flaky, but i'll give it a go if you think that's best
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16:25:57<thuban>that said it will probably have to wait a week or two. data is on a raid enclosure that's going bad which i'm currently backing up; that particular file is safe already but i want to get the rest done before i touch the array for anything else
16:26:43<thuban>!remindme 1week upload game atsumaru data
16:26:44<eggdrop>[remind] ok, i'll remind you at 2024-05-10T00:00:00Z
16:27:53<@arkiver>thuban: no problem at all!
16:28:47<thuban>thanks for helping <3
16:28:57<@arkiver>of course!
16:29:14<@arkiver>most important is getting the dump safely uploaded, after that we can look into separate items
16:32:43<@rewby>arkiver: You have a target
16:32:45<@rewby>Good lucjk
16:32:55<@arkiver>rewby: wooh :)
16:33:05<@arkiver>i'll see about moving the other WARCs over later
16:33:15<@arkiver>thanks rewby
16:34:00<@arkiver>rewby: is it correct the imgur target is still enabled on subscene too?
16:34:08<@arkiver>oh just removed
16:34:12<@arkiver>nvm
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16:47:48<mgrandi>https://www.bfbcpa.us/ this company was suspended from doing SEC work, don't know if they are going under as a result
16:49:32<katia>mgrandi, added to archivebot
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16:53:18<@JAA>thuban: I agree with handling the 'UTC (UTC+0)' case, but I don't think we should allow ambiguous times like that. Also, some pages already depend on UTC being the default. Perhaps we should have a separate {{ambiguous datetime}} template. Indeed, you can't have fatal errors from templates as far as I know. That's why {{URL}} adds a category to pages with broken arguments, for example.
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16:58:37<thuban>JAA: i also would prefer not to allow ambiguous times. (i don't think a separate template is necessary.) i am willing to manually edit existing usages of the template (since it was """required""" before being made to default to utc, so any use of the default should be intentional).
16:59:13<@arkiver>so post.news
16:59:20<thuban>JAA: what about that lua module?
16:59:46<@arkiver>#past-news it is for post.news
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17:04:53<@JAA>thuban: What I'm trying to say I guess is that the default time zone for everything here should be UTC. We already do that in IRC logs etc. without explicitly mentioning UTC because this is an international environment and UTC is the only sensible time zone there.
17:05:12<@JAA>No idea re Lua.
17:07:21<thuban>JAA: i agree that it _should_ be the default. but sooner or later some jackass like me is going to be updating the wiki, and copy something from their local logs with a local timestamp, and not notice that they've failed to convert it without a big red error to warn them, and then it will be wrong forever. and we should have guardrails against that.
17:07:55<@JAA>Mhm
17:08:35<Notrealname1234>Wow, first "JAA" message without a dot?
17:09:03<katia>No.
17:09:03<h2ibot>Nulldata edited Post News (+13, Channel decided): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=52134&oldid=52070
17:09:23<Notrealname1234>katia: Yes, also i was just joking lol
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17:11:25<thuban>(i did think of abusing the parser by, say, invoking #time with a malformed argument so that it prints "Invalid time". but i think that would be the Wrong Thing :P)
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17:23:08<thuban>JAA: ah, i think it would require installing an extension, which iirc you don't have access for (who does?) https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Scribunto#Installation
17:23:33<@JAA>thuban: I do, but I still have no idea. :-)
17:25:39<@JAA>I'm not sure we have anything Lua-based on the wiki currently, in particular.
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17:26:34<thuban>looks like not https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/Special:Version
17:27:20<@JAA>Yeah, so getting that to work might be more pain than it's worth.
17:30:06<@JAA>#formatdate doesn't seem to produce any error when passing an invalid time. Fun.
17:30:16<thuban>the docs make it look pretty straightforward. but i have no idea what the at wiki is like behind the scenes, so idk, let me know
17:30:33<@JAA>I.e. we wouldn't catch that error anyway.
17:31:22<@JAA>I think we can go with the same approach as on {{URL}}, i.e. add a category to pages with incorrect usage so that they can be found and fixed.
17:34:01<thuban>hm, i guess if it's colored red that's good enough
17:40:10<h2ibot>Switchnode edited Template:Datetime (+717, require zones for times): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=52135&oldid=51013
17:40:25<thuban>look ok?
17:40:56<thuban>other than the category being added, i thought that wasn't supposed to happen inside <includeonly>...
17:42:21<thuban>oh lol, it's because i gave negative examples. nvm
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17:46:55<@JAA>Yeah, that looks fine apart from the category.
17:47:23<@JAA>Maybe we can just remove those negative examples.
17:47:51<thuban>meh, i think it's fine to leave it
17:48:04<thuban>will update usages now
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18:31:16<thuban>fwiw, i was able to trace everything back to a cited source or earlier revision that was explicitly utc, except for three additions by JAA who i assume just got it right
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18:44:39<yzqzss>STWP is going to start a new archive project: the Discuz! archive. ("Disucz!" is the most popular BBS|forum software in China)
18:45:56<yzqzss>We think this project can work with AT/AB: the detailed metadata grabbed through site's API is uploaded to IA like wikiteam3/doku-dumper, and at the same time the discuz! archive tool outputs a urls.txt (each url is a thread), so ArchiveBot can do web archiving for them.
18:46:10<yzqzss>is this idea feasible? :)
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18:46:48<yzqzss>some "powered by Discuz!" examples:
18:46:48<yzqzss>https://www.cn-dos.net/forum/
18:46:48<yzqzss>http://nesbbs.com/bbs/
18:46:48<yzqzss>http://www.crystalradio.cn/
18:46:48<yzqzss>https://discuz.dismall.com/
18:47:22<pokechu22>Something like that probably would work, though if the goal is to just throw in a list of URLs without recursion I'm pretty sure there's also a distributed project for that?
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18:48:34<thuban>pokechu22: #// would not be appropriate for this due to the ddos risk.
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18:52:25<thuban>i think archivebot would be, though! (just give the output files identifiable names)
18:55:25<thuban>arkiver: just so i don't forget, there's also https://archive.org/details/game_atsumaru_comments_scoreboard_api_20230628. i don't think there's much useful in it either, but
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