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00:00:46<h2ibot>JAABot edited CurrentWarriorProject (+38): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=52007&oldid=51953
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01:30:58<h2ibot>Pedrosso edited Steam (-5, /* Archives */ updated portal 2 workshop grab…): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=52008&oldid=51660
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02:48:56<pabs>glibc moving from sourceware.org to Linux Foundation infra: https://cti.coretoolchain.dev/projects/glibc.html#service-migration https://lore.kernel.org/cti-tac/b79e90ee-6824-4b22-a367-09740e4df746@redhat.com/T/#u
02:52:32<pabs>sourceware folks will ping me (on #overseers on libera) if anything is due to be deleted
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05:35:46<Barto>nice
05:38:54<pabs>meetbot.debian.net came back, whats the best solution for regularly archiving new content on it and outlinks? (fairly regularly has new IRC meeting logs)
05:45:53<fireonlive>i don't think we have anything existing that allows to 'check for new content' to shove into archivebot
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11:05:49<immibis>custom bots could post !a commands
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14:47:47<anarcat>pabs: best would be for meetbot to regularly post new content to IA, IMHO
14:47:54<anarcat>as opposed to re-crawling the same crap
14:48:16<pabs>SPN?
14:48:24<anarcat>SPN?
14:50:24<nicolas17>anarcat: that wouldn't be available in wayback machine though
14:50:58<nicolas17>meetbot could upload its own WARCs to IA, but then they won't work in WBM
14:51:20<anarcat>that seems like a minor limitation
14:52:05<pabs>seems pointless to upload without WBM
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16:35:25<fireonlive>SPN=save page now (web.archive.org)
16:37:00<nulldata>https://web.archive.org/save/
16:38:15<@JAA>https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/Archiveteam:Acronyms :-)
16:42:38<that_lurker>If not using SPN, you could throw the "Current YEAR" folders to AB in 6 month intervals or yearly. Though like cats AB would most likely find a way to go to the other directories as well :-P
16:48:48<nicolas17>cats :3
16:54:36<fireonlive>:3
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19:19:29<h2ibot>TheTechRobo edited Archiveteam:Acronyms (+7, Reorganise page to make more readable…): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=52009&oldid=51392
19:23:16<@JAA>It was alphabetic previously... :-/
19:23:35<@JAA>Which is quite common for a glossary-type thing.
19:23:50<@JAA>I don't think it's more readable now.
19:26:39<fireonlive>hmm it should probably be alphabetical
19:26:48<fireonlive>unless we add categories, then alphabetize them
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19:32:09<@JAA>Yeah, categories could work, but I'm not sure the list is long enough for that to be useful.
19:32:25<@JAA>Someone unfamiliar with the acronyms or context would also have to scan through all categories.
19:32:54<fireonlive>ah yeah true
19:34:31<h2ibot>FireonLive edited Archiveteam:Acronyms (-7, Undo revision 52009 by…): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=52010&oldid=52009
19:36:38<Barto>dont mind me, sounds like the 2.5Gb port on the router became irresponsive to any dhcp lease :(
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19:41:52<fireonlive>:(
19:42:14<fireonlive>wish we could somehow bump up the 't' in Archiveteam: there
19:42:46<fireonlive>JAA: do your superpowers allow for such sorcery
19:43:39<@JAA>Unless MediaWiki has restrictions on that, probably, yeah. No idea how though.
19:43:48<fireonlive>ooh
19:45:02<pokechu22>It would require renaming the namespace
19:45:18<fireonlive>'namespace manager' -> 'This page is obsolete. It is being retained for archival purposes'
19:45:20<fireonlive>>:(
19:45:34<pokechu22>(note that Project:Acronyms is a synonym for that page, since Project is a synonym for whatever the project is actually called by default)
19:45:49<pokechu22>beyond that not sure what you'd need to do
19:46:06<fireonlive>ah hm
19:46:21<fireonlive>could there be downsides to renaming it? iirc it's case sensitive
19:47:11<fireonlive>oh, https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/ArchiveTeam:Acronyms redirects to https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/Archiveteam:Acronyms interesting
19:47:39<nicolas17>that might be a thing for all namespaces?
19:47:45<TheTechRobo>JAA: Oh, sorry, didn,t notice it was alphabetical
19:47:45<TheTechRobo>Was trying to make it more readable because e.g. SWH was shown after SCN
19:48:15<fireonlive>looks like one letter off gets 'fixed' but multiple don't
19:48:34<@JAA>Maybe it'd require renaming the wiki.
19:48:46<fireonlive>https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/Main_page redirects, but https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/Main_PAge doesn't hm
19:48:47<TheTechRobo>fireonlive: First letter is always normalised to uppercase in MediaWiki
19:48:52<fireonlive>ah
19:49:04<fireonlive>right right
19:49:13<fireonlive>that's why i had to have not the username i wanted
19:49:15<TheTechRobo>I suppose the first letter of every word too, with your Main_page example
19:51:15<fireonlive>JAA: oh maybe, it does say 'About Archiveteam' at the bottom and 'Archiveteam' on https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/Special:CreateAccount
19:51:16<fireonlive>hm
19:54:18<nicolas17>first letter of page names is always capitalized
19:54:35<nicolas17>but that can be turned off, for example it's off in wiktionary
19:56:29<fireonlive>how about usernames :3
19:57:33<nicolas17>allowing both fireonlive and Fireonlive to exist as separate users seems confusing
19:57:53<fireonlive>true
19:58:31<fireonlive>i guess it wouldn't check if there was a collision eh
20:00:23<fireonlive>https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Main_page&redirect=no
20:00:23<fireonlive>oh
20:02:33<@JAA>Yeah, it wouldn't redirect to the right capitalisation on its own. It only handles the first char.
20:02:35<h2ibot>FireonLive created Roblox Marketplace comments (+62, redirect AT's Choice to its proper place): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?title=Roblox%20Marketplace%20comments
20:02:47<@JAA>And on Wiktionary, that's disabled as well.
20:03:40<@JAA>Which makes sense, since there are collisions, e.g. https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/a != https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/A
20:05:00<fireonlive>ah yeah
20:07:44<pokechu22>I think namespaces might behave differently there?
20:07:56<pokechu22>given that there's already an alias for Project: by default
20:08:14<pokechu22>https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgNamespaceAliases
20:08:45<pokechu22>... and https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Namespace#cite_note-3
20:10:29<fireonlive>ah interesting, I didn't know it was 'Project' internally
20:11:41<@JAA>Yeah, that makes sense.
20:11:42<fireonlive>so i guess ideally $wgSitename would be changed, and an alias added for Archiveteam?
20:12:49<fireonlive>$wgNamespaceAliases['Archiveteam'] = NS_PROJECT;
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20:52:42<steering>re caps: and fireOnLive being separate from fireonlive isn't confusing? :)
20:54:32<steering>iirc in ye olden days the links in the footer etc linked to `Project:...` instead of dynamically inserting the name, could very well be wrong though
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21:52:24<fireonlive>-+rss- Cloudflare acquires PartyKit to allow developers to build real-time multi-user: https://blog.cloudflare.com/cloudflare-acquires-partykit https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39941859
21:52:29<fireonlive>> Partykit confused me. They hired two people, then laid them off (https://twitter.com/threepointone/status/1724159621382754738) after raising 2.5 million, with nothing but a vague message about "the tech landscape is moving changing incredibly fast". That seems kind of callous?
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22:08:59<fireonlive>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHfmA1zlGZU >Entire Case Company Built on Literal Theft
22:09:49<fireonlive>throwing https://gamemaxpc.com/ into AB
22:11:32<fireonlive>https://www.gamemax.uk/ too
22:14:32<fireonlive>they have more collateral, will come back to it if others haven't discovered
22:16:32<fireonlive>(one discord found for UK, but they probably have others, youtubes, etc)
22:23:56<Ryz>Welp, so about Photobucket... https://boingboing.net/2024/04/05/photobucket-archives-may-sell-for-billions-to-train-ai.html
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22:29:20<fireonlive>the cover image on that article is amazing
22:29:24<fireonlive>but also.... :|
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