| 00:00:04 | <pokechu22> | Awkward1: This is probably the right place to ask, though I myself don't know anything about the project and can't help you |
| 00:00:21 | <pokechu22> | What specifically are you looking for? |
| 00:03:47 | <Awkward1> | Well the TLDR is I'm trying to download everything I can find by an artists named "beatsbyhand" |
| 00:04:50 | <Awkward1> | Unfortunately all my queries are coming back with nothing, probably due to the fact that any info i have to go off of (url, metadata, etc) is all zipped up |
| 00:05:37 | <Awkward1> | The archive page says it was created by a Jason Scott |
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| 00:08:23 | <pokechu22> | Hmm, TheTechRobo set up a site for searching through those about 10 months ago last time someone was looking for something over at https://tau.thetechrobo.ca/ but it doesn't seem to be online right now |
| 00:10:45 | <pokechu22> | If you have a track ID e.g. https://theartistunion.com/tracks/9f3dea -> 9f3dea you can use https://web.archive.org/web/2if_/https://theartistunion.com/api/v3/tracks/<ID>.json e.g. https://web.archive.org/web/2if_/https://theartistunion.com/api/v3/tracks/9f3dea.json to get a link to the MP3 file |
| 00:11:18 | <Awkward1> | oh snap lemme give that a try |
| 00:12:01 | <@JAA> | Wasn't this the project where we did some funky thing with requests in the pipeline, so it can't always be found through the WBM? |
| 00:13:00 | <Awkward1> | side note, y’all are heroes for helping me out with this. i've been a dj for 15 years and this is the deepest i've ever gone digging for tracks |
| 00:15:35 | <@JAA> | Yeah, it is. That API URL should give you an audio file if we grabbed a track, but we may also have archived a higher-quality one that isn't easily findable. |
| 00:16:06 | <@JAA> | That might be what TheTechRobo implemented. |
| 00:16:37 | <Awkward1> | so that lands me on a page that has two urls that both end in .json |
| 00:17:07 | <@JAA> | Do you have an example track ID you're looking for? |
| 00:18:13 | <Awkward1> | Billie Eilish - Bury A Friend (beatsbyhand Remix) |
| 00:18:20 | <Awkward1> | https://web.archive.org/web/*/https://theartistunion.com/api/v3/tracks/36bb80* |
| 00:18:26 | <Awkward1> | that's what the api search gave me |
| 00:18:38 | <@JAA> | https://web.archive.org/web/20190716164058if_/https://theartistunion.com/api/v3/tracks/36bb80.json |
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| 00:19:12 | <@JAA> | audio_source is the interesting one. |
| 00:19:16 | <Awkward1> | that lands me on a bunch of text |
| 00:19:21 | <Awkward1> | that i'm not smart enough to understand |
| 00:19:57 | <Awkward1> | https://web.archive.org/web/20190716164058/https://content.theartistunion.com/tracks/audio/stream_encode/98d306ddffbc4f5d92ae48ecfd7f26c7/Billie-Eilish---Bury-A-Friend-_beatsbyhand-Remix_-_MP3_.mp3 |
| 00:20:06 | <@JAA> | Yeah |
| 00:20:09 | <Awkward1> | so i remembered that i can cmd+f |
| 00:20:15 | <@JAA> | :-) |
| 00:20:52 | <@JAA> | That's not the URL format I'm familiar with. Not sure how to find the higher-quality version (if there was one and we grabbed it). |
| 00:21:11 | <Awkward1> | yeah i'll probably throw this in spec and see what bitrate i'm working with |
| 00:21:14 | <@JAA> | Looks like this was imported from SoundCloud or something. |
| 00:22:00 | <@JAA> | It's this: https://soundcloud.com/beatsbyhandremixes/billie-eilish-bury-a-friend-beatsbyhand-remix-snippet-buy-free-download |
| 00:22:27 | <Awkward1> | 4 minute long file though ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ |
| 00:22:29 | <Awkward1> | so that's nice |
| 00:22:35 | <@JAA> | Ah |
| 00:22:51 | <Awkward1> | so probably a 192 which would make sense for the file size |
| 00:23:27 | <nicolas17> | ffprobe says |
| 00:23:34 | <nicolas17> | encoded_by : LAME in FL Studio 12 |
| 00:23:36 | <nicolas17> | Audio: mp3, 44100 Hz, stereo, fltp, 128 kb/s |
| 00:24:23 | <Awkward1> | welp time for me to learn ffprobe |
| 00:24:47 | <Awkward1> | ok so lemme make sure i've got this down so i can let y’all get back to the more important things i'm sure you have to do |
| 00:25:05 | <nicolas17> | I just ran 'ffprobe https://web.archive...' on a console because it was the quickest way for me to get that info :D |
| 00:25:43 | <@JAA> | The WAV did not exist at the time of archival: https://web.archive.org/web/20190716164133/https://content.theartistunion.com/tracks/audio/:original/98d306ddffbc4f5d92ae48ecfd7f26c7/Billie-Eilish---Bury-A-Friend-_beatsbyhand-Remix_-_MP3_.wav |
| 00:26:31 | <nicolas17> | maybe got there too late |
| 00:26:32 | <@JAA> | Oh, we did grab this: https://web.archive.org/web/20190716164131/https://content.theartistunion.com/tracks/audio/:original/98d306ddffbc4f5d92ae48ecfd7f26c7/Billie-Eilish---Bury-A-Friend-_beatsbyhand-Remix_-_MP3_.mp3 |
| 00:26:53 | <@JAA> | 320 kb/s |
| 00:27:05 | <Awkward1> | omfg |
| 00:27:07 | <@JAA> | Maybe that was the original upload then. |
| 00:27:09 | <Awkward1> | y’all are champs |
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| 00:27:32 | | nicolas17 can't hear the difference on the laptop speakers anyway |
| 00:27:40 | <nicolas17> | :D |
| 00:27:51 | <Awkward1> | lol nah but the huge qsc's i'm gonna play it on next weekend will know the difference |
| 00:28:11 | <@JAA> | :-) |
| 00:28:16 | <Awkward1> | ok so can one of you hit me with the url sans artist union part |
| 00:28:24 | <Awkward1> | that way i can have a quick copy paste |
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| 00:28:41 | <Awkward1> | or i guess i could use the one up there ^ that ended at "tracks/" |
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| 00:29:40 | <Awkward1> | curious what the workflow difference was to find the 128 v the 320 though? |
| 00:30:54 | <@JAA> | Not sure what you're asking in the first part. |
| 00:31:24 | <@JAA> | I found it by digging in the raw data, specifically looking at the things we grabbed immediately after https://theartistunion.com/api/v3/tracks/36bb80.json , because that's where the original audio would be found if we got it. |
| 00:31:30 | <@JAA> | It isn't linked anywhere else. |
| 00:31:35 | <Awkward1> | oh gotcha |
| 00:32:29 | <@JAA> | The original audio thing was behind a login wall, so we retrieved that independently and then only archived the audio file itself. |
| 00:32:45 | <Awkward1> | alright imma try another out myself and see how i do |
| 00:32:47 | <@JAA> | No login requirement once you knew the URL. |
| 00:33:03 | <@JAA> | You can probably find it by transforming the URL and running a prefix search on the Wayback Machine. |
| 00:33:11 | <nicolas17> | JAA: was this DPoS or predated that tooling? |
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| 00:34:00 | <Awkward1> | forgive me, what's a prefix search |
| 00:34:03 | <@JAA> | From https://web.archive.org/web/20190716164058/https://content.theartistunion.com/tracks/audio/stream_encode/98d306ddffbc4f5d92ae48ecfd7f26c7/Billie-Eilish---Bury-A-Friend-_beatsbyhand-Remix_-_MP3_.mp3, replace the datetime (after /web/) and the filename with asterisks and 'stream_encode' with ':original' to arrive at |
| 00:34:08 | <@JAA> | https://web.archive.org/web/*/https://content.theartistunion.com/tracks/audio/:original/98d306ddffbc4f5d92ae48ecfd7f26c7/* |
| 00:34:27 | <@JAA> | That returns all archived URLs that start with https://content.theartistunion.com/tracks/audio/:original/98d306ddffbc4f5d92ae48ecfd7f26c7/, i.e. the original audio for that track. |
| 00:34:29 | <nicolas17> | prefix search looks for every archived URL that starts with X |
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| 00:35:27 | <@JAA> | There's another URL format that looks like https://d2tml28x3t0b85.cloudfront.net/tracks/stream_files/000/509/784/original/time%20(if%20and%20when).mp3?1492833816 ; there, you'd need to replace 'stream_files' with 'original files' (and the asterisk thing) to find |
| 00:35:31 | <@JAA> | https://web.archive.org/web/20190713030611/https://d2tml28x3t0b85.cloudfront.net/tracks/original_files/000/509/784/original/time%20(if%20and%20when).wav |
| 00:35:37 | <@JAA> | 'original_files'* |
| 00:35:45 | <Awkward1> | it's astonishing how over my head this is |
| 00:36:44 | <@JAA> | nicolas17: This was DPoS, but the login wall thing was done with `requests.get` from the pipeline. We probably wouldn't do that today. https://github.com/ArchiveTeam/theartistunion-grab/blob/58e259772c049c42e271e7d9ec3d7335f649198c/pipeline.py#L208-L224 |
| 00:37:15 | <@JAA> | Er, post, not get, but same difference. |
| 00:40:27 | <@JAA> | Awkward1: Which part of this transformation are you struggling with? |
| 00:43:13 | <Awkward1> | sorry, giving it a couple tries to see what i can get |
| 00:43:16 | <Awkward1> | one sec |
| 00:43:44 | <@JAA> | Sounds good :-) |
| 00:45:02 | <Awkward1> | ok so i'm trying to start at the api search and work my way all the way through |
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| 00:47:06 | <Awkward195> | welp it renamed me |
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| 00:59:10 | <Awkward195> | omg i did it |
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| 01:03:26 | <@JAA> | Yay! |
| 01:03:44 | <Awkward195> | gonna be a struggle to do it again, but holy shit the first one felt good lol |
| 01:03:54 | <Awkward195> | trying to write myself a KB |
| 01:09:31 | <Awkward195> | ok i'm running into issues with theartistunion.com/tracks/d622f9 |
| 01:09:37 | <Awkward195> | let me know if i'm crazy |
| 01:10:12 | <Awkward195> | https://web.archive.org/web/*/https://theartistunion.com/api/v3/tracks/d622f9.json* |
| 01:10:17 | <Awkward195> | does that look correct? |
| 01:13:40 | <fireonlive> | https://twitter.com/julesaroscoe/status/1760759674628952480 |
| 01:13:40 | <eggdrop> | nitter: https://farside.link/nitter/julesaroscoe/status/1760759674628952480 |
| 01:14:51 | <fireonlive> | replies to embedded tweet include a call for donations to archiveteam |
| 01:14:56 | <fireonlive> | cc arkiver/JAA/etc |
| 01:14:59 | <fireonlive> | neat :) |
| 01:25:16 | <@JAA> | Ah, so that's where those came from. Neat! :-) |
| 01:26:06 | <@JAA> | And thanks to those who did donate! |
| 01:26:17 | <nicolas17> | hm Vice may need a wiki page? |
| 01:27:00 | <@JAA> | Awkward195: The prefix search only returns successful retrievals (HTTP 200). Looks like that track was already gone when we got to it: https://web.archive.org/web/20190709174338/https://theartistunion.com/api/v3/tracks/d622f9.json |
| 01:27:03 | <nicolas17> | was the vice youtube channel archived? |
| 01:27:26 | <@JAA> | nicolas17: Yes and yes |
| 01:27:40 | <nicolas17> | I see several people on twitter asking if videos were included in our archive |
| 01:28:10 | <nicolas17> | I believe the answer is "youtube is archived [or is it still in progress?] but videos on the website are a bit more complicated and people are still looking into it" ? |
| 01:28:12 | <@JAA> | The YouTube channel was, https://video.vice.com/ was not (as far as the video content goes). |
| 01:28:22 | <Awkward195> | ok word, just making sure the lack of results wasn't due to me incorrectly formatting something |
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| 01:39:45 | <Awkward195> | JAA appreciate the help! |
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| 03:17:12 | <missaustraliana> | yo, ive got the AT docker running, is there a way i can duplicate it so 2 are running |
| 03:17:23 | <nulldata> | Just realized - need to grab VICE podcasts |
| 03:17:37 | <thuban> | missaustraliana: https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=ArchiveTeam_Warrior#How_can_I_run_multiple_Warriors_at_the_same_time? |
| 03:17:45 | <missaustraliana> | also i feel like my docker is stuck |
| 03:18:03 | <missaustraliana> | i have no download traffic and no upload traffic |
| 03:18:34 | <nicolas17> | missaustraliana: which docker image? |
| 03:18:48 | <missaustraliana> | warrior |
| 03:19:20 | <missaustraliana> | im going to try and do a restart of both containers |
| 03:19:49 | <missaustraliana> | yeah my image is fucked |
| 03:19:59 | <missaustraliana> | im looking at the debug and theres traceback errors |
| 03:20:21 | <missaustraliana> | hold up its started back up again |
| 03:21:16 | <missaustraliana> | yeah now its lost connection and i cant reload the page |
| 03:21:55 | <missaustraliana> | failed at check ip |
| 03:22:07 | <missaustraliana> | Starting CheckIP for Item |
| 03:22:07 | <missaustraliana> | Failed CheckIP for Item |
| 03:22:08 | <missaustraliana> | Traceback (most recent call last): |
| 03:22:09 | <missaustraliana> | File "/usr/local/lib/python3.9/site-packages/seesaw/task.py", line 88, in enqueue |
| 03:22:11 | <missaustraliana> | self.process(item) |
| 03:22:13 | <missaustraliana> | File "<string>", line 172, in process |
| 03:22:15 | <missaustraliana> | AssertionError: Invalid return code 4 on https://on.quad9.net/. |
| 03:22:17 | <missaustraliana> | Waiting 10 seconds... |
| 03:26:59 | <nicolas17> | does the container have IPv6 enabled? |
| 03:27:29 | <nicolas17> | I think there's some weird issue where the container *thinks* it has IPv6 even though you don't have IPv6 connectivity to the internet |
| 03:29:43 | <missaustraliana> | i gave it a sec to figure its shit out and its running now. not sure what happened |
| 03:33:46 | <missaustraliana> | nevermind! its shut down and now is saying config.json permission denied |
| 03:40:51 | <thuban> | nulldata: are there any legit podcasts other than https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/vice-news-reports/id1525769448 ? |
| 03:41:09 | <thuban> | (which i'm getting with archivebot) |
| 03:41:12 | <thuban> | most of the pages tagged 'podcasts' on their site appear to be ordinary articles with ai text-to-speech attached |
| 03:41:19 | <nicolas17> | /o\ |
| 03:42:28 | <thuban> | which would be nice to get, theoretically, but aren't as important as audio-first/audio-only data |
| 03:43:05 | <nulldata> | They have 12 podcasts that aren't exclusive to Spotify and Audible. |
| 03:43:14 | <nulldata> | I'll PM you the links to their XML feeds |
| 03:43:28 | <thuban> | ah, ty |
| 03:44:23 | <thuban> | vice news reports just finished, i'll do the rest & report back |
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| 04:23:04 | <TheTechRobo> | JAA: yes I implemented the /v3/tracks/$IDENT.json on tau.thetechrobo.ca |
| 04:23:14 | <TheTechRobo> | Was not aware it was broken so I will likely fix that at some point |
| 04:23:28 | <@JAA> | TheTechRobo: And the original file lookup, too? |
| 04:24:29 | <thuban> | vice podcasts: _vice news reports_, _authentic_, _a show about animals_, _go off sis_, _the crisis_, _strongman_, _source material_, _chapo_, _extremes_, _the distance_, and _unstyled_ are done; _el hilo_ and _waypoint radio_ are running and should finish in a few hours i think |
| 04:25:32 | <TheTechRobo> | I'll also look into implementing the system you proposed |
| 04:27:56 | <TheTechRobo> | JAA: What do you mean? (Sorry, was still reading logs when you sent that) |
| 04:30:30 | <@JAA> | TheTechRobo: The transformations I described at 00:34/35 for getting from the audio_source in the API data to the higher-quality audio file (if it existed). |
| 04:31:05 | <@JAA> | TAU was weird and quirky, so I wouldn't be surprised if there were several other domains and/or dir structures, too. |
| 04:31:55 | <TheTechRobo> | Right, yeah, I'll look into that |
| 04:32:14 | <TheTechRobo> | Might take a lil while as I'm rather busy at the moment |
| 04:33:54 | <@JAA> | Yeah, no rush, would just be nice to have at some point. :-) |
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| 05:36:37 | <fireonlive> | i spy with my little eye a that_lurker! 🐥 |
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| 06:05:23 | <thuban> | all vice podcasts named above are finished and look good (cc nulldata) |
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| 06:06:44 | <@JAA> | Nice, thanks! |
| 06:13:11 | <thuban> | (in case this is useful to somebody in the future: since archivebot doesn't 'see' them, i extracted assets from the rss feeds using `curl -Ls "$feed" | grep -oP '<(enclosure|media:content|podcast:transcript)[^"]*"\K[^"]*' | recode html..ascii`.) |
| 06:13:19 | <thuban> | (this will _not_ necessarily generalize, for all the usual reasons you shouldn't parse xml with regexes, but i visually checked all the feeds and results were fine here) |
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| 06:43:28 | <nulldata> | I also grabbed copies with podcast-archiver just in case. 96.7GB lol |
| 06:50:10 | <nulldata> | Apparently VICE forgot to disable access to the podcast backend so there was a rouge episode of CYBER that went out with some VICE employees venting and reflecting. Worth a listen. https://shows.acast.com/cyber/episodes/the-end-of-vice |
| 06:55:35 | <nicolas17> | wow |
| 06:55:40 | <nicolas17> | please tell me *that* is archived |
| 06:56:16 | <thuban> | shortly |
| 07:10:19 | <thuban> | vice podcast _cyber_ is done |
| 07:20:10 | <nulldata> | I found a tool called Spodcast that allows for downloading of podcasts from Spotify using a free account. https://github.com/Yetangitu/Spodcast |
| 07:22:10 | <nulldata> | Was trying to download one of the Spotify exclusive VICE podcasts with it. Doesn't seem very stable - crashes after grabbing a couple of episodes. |
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| 08:48:36 | <c3manu> | nulldata: nice, thanks! (re podcast episode) |
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| 14:28:25 | <bf_> | pabs: that's amazing, thank you so much pabs! |
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| 14:32:46 | <bf_> | software heritage is really nice |
| 14:32:49 | <bf_> | never heard of it before! |
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| 15:54:55 | <nulldata> | Someone published the rouge episode of CYBER to the YouTube channel for Motherboard https://youtu.be/TKT4OtDEJRA |
| 15:55:22 | <nulldata> | Threw it into down the tube |
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