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00:49:44<eightthree>(sorry for repost my element client glitches and only offers repost or delete)
01:08:54<nulldata>Can someone please throw https://www.a3artistsagency.com/ into AB? Agency shutting down. https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/a3-artists-agency-shuts-down-1235821430/
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01:16:00<fireonlive>nulldata: done :)
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02:07:34<nulldata>Thanks!
02:34:16<pabs>pokechu22: a jira https://ftp.esteban.polymtl.ca/jira
02:34:52<pokechu22>No public issues it seems
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02:52:37<fireonlive>on .af: https://abyssdomain.expert/@filippo/111923622943979038
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04:12:58<nicolas17>cool mastodon domain that
04:30:06<fireonlive>yee
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06:45:18<h2ibot>JustAnotherArchivist edited Deathwatch (+207, /* 2024 */ Add Commaful): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=51725&oldid=51715
07:04:19<@JAA>Commaful is JS hell. There seem to be decent sitemaps, and AB should be getting the main content but not the comments I think.
07:07:51<@JAA>The announcement is also JS hell and doesn't even work in the WBM.
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07:34:14<mgrandi>Is there a channel for steam stuff? Or maybe we can create one, I've been working on a steam workshop downloader and have a few different versions working (since steam workshop is kinda awful and you need different strategies per game)
07:55:32<h2ibot>JacksonChen666 edited Deathwatch (+128, queer.af with definitive shutdown date): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=51726&oldid=51725
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08:30:38<Vokun>mgrandi: Technically #outofsteam I think, but I've never seen it used. All the links on the forum point to archiveteam-bs though
09:40:54<magmaus3>does anyone have any expired discord cdn links?
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10:48:40<JustThatNerdyNerd>I have a site that detected a web scraper when archive.org tried to archive it, so I created a Warc with a Chrome extension, wondering if I could provide it here to be pushed to IA
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11:04:51<thuban>...and gone
11:14:56<mgrandi>I don't but any copied discord links should expire eventually right?
11:18:08<@OrIdow6>I think we should consider trying to publicize the Discord thing more, I haven't heard that discussed outside of AT channels
11:18:56<@OrIdow6>(Says the person who hasn
11:19:05<@OrIdow6>'t bothered going through their own browsing history for them)
11:19:11<FireFly>discord thing?
11:21:39<@OrIdow6>FireFly: see https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Deathwatch#cite_note-36 , Discord doesn't like that people were using them to host files
11:21:51<@OrIdow6>And is going to break a bunch of file links
11:22:45<FireFly>ahh, I see
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11:34:23<@OrIdow6>!tell JustThatNerdyNerd you can upload it to the Internet Archive yourself, but as it comes from a third party it will not be put into the Wayback Machine (also - Chrome extensions, last I checked, do not have access to the raw TCP/TLS stream that requests happen over, i.e. they must fake some information - exactly why this is in place)
11:34:24<eggdrop>[tell] ok, I'll tell JustThatNerdyNerd when they join next
11:39:25<h2ibot>OrIdow6 edited Frequently Asked Questions (+96, /* halp pls halp */ This was a bit obtuse): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=51727&oldid=51149
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11:51:27<h2ibot>OrIdow6 edited Frequently Asked Questions (+75, A bit of general editing to this page): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=51728&oldid=51727
11:52:28<h2ibot>OrIdow6 edited Frequently Asked Questions (+0, Syntax): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=51729&oldid=51728
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16:21:07<@arkiver>aninternettroll: this is not just about starting a project for any random nice site we might want
16:21:15<@arkiver>it's usually aimed at stuff that is going to be deleted or in serious danger of being deleted
16:21:51<@arkiver>is speedrun.com shutting down? if not, likely not a project
16:22:02<aninternettroll>fair enough
16:22:19<@arkiver>eightthree: nsfw is always included if it's being deleted
16:22:56<aninternettroll>but a mastodon would be more relevant, since instances go down all the time?
16:23:23<@arkiver>perhaps, yeah
16:23:41<@arkiver>on nsfw stuff - for as long as i've been at Archive Team (10+ years) we have always treated it as regular content
16:24:12<@arkiver>aninternettroll: we'll have a new try at Reddit again soon, so that might be a nice one to run when it starts again
16:25:43<joepie91|m>mass-archiving mastodon as a whole is not welcome; users generally deliberate let their posts get deleted over time, and they are meant to be transient. this is not a case of "negligent company yeets stuff that people expected to stay online"
16:26:36<joepie91|m>(there are some exceptions, specific instances, where it can make sense to archive things)
16:29:25<h2ibot>Switchnode edited Telegram (+1, /* Web data only */ queue bot does not actually…): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=51730&oldid=51476
16:35:26<h2ibot>JustAnotherArchivist edited Frequently Asked Questions (+1, Fix unit): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=51731&oldid=51729
16:36:10<fireonlive>the 'i's strike again
16:40:27<h2ibot>JustAnotherArchivist edited Frequently Asked Questions (+21, Fix inaccuracy about IA whitelisting): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=51732&oldid=51731
16:43:12<@JAA>^ Cc arkiver, OrIdow6
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18:53:17<nicolas17>I asked this a million times but I keep forgetting what the unsatisfactory answer is: I have two URLs for the same giant file, is there any way I can archive them such that 1. the content is deduplicated, 2. they work in WBM?
18:59:52<@JAA>Yes, wget-at with the appropriate options or qwarc will write a revisit record for the second and later retrieval.
19:03:35<thuban>what about wpull/ab?
19:03:52<@JAA>AB no
19:03:57<nicolas17>afaik archivebot doesn't do deduplication
19:04:11<@JAA>wpull has some support for it, I think, but I don't recall how (well) it works.
19:04:19<nicolas17>I could do wget-at and upload the warc to IA myself, but then I need to arrange for WBM-approval
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19:09:58<nicolas17>for other files that *don't* have duplicates, I was planning to automate sending the URL to #archivebot :p
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19:54:43<pokechu22>How big is "giant"? It might be easier to just let it be duplicated
19:55:49<nicolas17>don't let facts get in the way of my anti-wastefulness obsession
19:57:17<fireonlive>inb4 20MiB
19:57:19<fireonlive>:p
19:57:47<@JAA>Yeah, numbers for average daily size + duplicated amount please. :-)
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21:07:24<eggdrop>[tell] JustThatNerdyNerd: [2024-02-14T11:34:23Z] <OrIdow6> you can upload it to the Internet Archive yourself, but as it comes from a third party it will not be put into the Wayback Machine (also - Chrome extensions, last I checked, do not have access to the raw TCP/TLS stream that requests happen over, i.e. they must fake some information - exactly why this is in place)
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21:09:58<fireonlive>hi/bye
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21:32:13<Aes>Hi, my name is Aesara https://github.com/aesarab. I help develop MyPaint, a painting software that started development in 2004. Over the past month I've been working on a new website, which exists in a new and separate git repo from the old one. The old website has been up since 2015, that is, 9 years.
21:32:59<Aes>My question is, is it worth the time to archive that website, and if so, how?
21:33:36<nicolas17>if it's just a "static website" we can get it archived quite easily
21:33:58<Aes>It's a static website made with hugo
21:34:04<Aes>sorry, jekyll
21:35:31<Aes>The git repo for the old website is public, but will be archived. I'm not sure what will happen if e.g. we move from GitHub to something else
21:36:33<Aes>Oh yeah, additionally we use the GitHub wiki for a lot of documentation, including user manuals. We're moving this to the new website also.
21:38:41<nicolas17>post website link :) JAA: can you throw it into archivebot?
21:38:54<Aes>https://mypaint.app
21:39:05<Aes>repo @ https://github.com/mypaint/website
21:39:38<joepie91|m>+1 for actively ensuring that it gets archived :)
21:41:20<Aes>thanks, the repo for all assets in the wiki is at git@github.com:mypaint/mypaint.wiki.git
21:41:47<Aes>*all assets and md files
21:42:25<Aes>wait, I realise that github wikis don't have a way of uploading files, so if a user doesn't clone the repo we had this really dumb way of attaching images. Let me find it
21:43:28<Aes>https://github.com/mypaint/mypaint/wiki/Writing-Documentation#pages
21:48:36<Aes>grep -r '!\[.*\](http\(s\)\?://' .
21:48:57<Aes>that command should find all instances of externally linked resources
21:57:23<@JAA>Aes: https://mypaint.app/ is running through ArchiveBot now. Thanks for reaching out!
21:58:05<Aes>Okay, so I was worried about backlinks for the wiki (I'm sure we have a couple orphaned pages), so I used the list of md files to create a list of links comprising the github wiki
21:58:06<Aes>https://pastebin.com/exjaarRn
21:59:48<@JAA>Also running through AB now.
22:00:02<@JAA>I'll also queue all your repos to our GitHub project because why not. :-)
22:01:08<Aes>Thanks, I really appreciate all the work you guys are doing. The MyPaint project has had the rug pulled out from it several times with our hosting providers. Between GNA, our old website, and our old wiki. Archived resources for these have been seriously helpful in building back up
22:04:29<Aes>wait, old as in the websites before the one's we're replacing
22:04:45<Aes>Anyway, thanks again. Catch u around
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22:05:44<eightthree>im trying to get a feel for how things are included or excluded from the archive created vs the original i.e. mapping out the differences (for my personal understanding)
22:05:46<eightthree>censorship is also very subjective
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22:27:41<nicolas17>pokechu22 JAA: 3x12GB (x2 duplicated URLs) at most once a week?
22:29:14<@JAA>Cute
22:29:56<@JAA>I mean, deduping wouldn't be bad, but duplicating it wouldn't be that terrible either.
22:32:09<nicolas17>IIRC someone uploaded a few of them as archive.org items (I think using wget so they may have the known warc-format issues of wget?) and they had 4x redundancy, because of the two URLs × {http,https}
22:32:11<nicolas17>/o\
22:32:51<@JAA>:-/
22:33:10<@JAA>Grabbing over both HTTP and HTTPS seems completely unnecessary.
22:33:17<fireonlive>https only!
22:33:24<fireonlive>🔒
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