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00:04:03<nautical_jesus>hello, i just posted a reddit thread about saving large parts of a bulgarian video-hosting site (with only a month-long window of opportunity - starting today). if anyone is interested, i'd really appreciate if you checked it out
00:04:11<nautical_jesus>https://www.reddit.com/r/Archiveteam/comments/19d6ou7/video_platform_vbox7_is_about_to_restrict_access/
00:05:29<nicolas17>nautical_jesus: https://hackint.logs.kiska.pw/archiveteam-bs/20240122#c405581
00:06:27<nautical_jesus>nicolas17 thanks!
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01:17:46<@JAA>TIL Wiktionary has a 'Can we archive this URL?' thing, although I can't tell where it comes from exactly. See the Guardian quote here for example: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/peach
01:18:18<@JAA>I'd assume this somehow interacts with IA's WMF wiki outlink archival, but the details of that seem to be pretty secret.
01:19:55<nicolas17>https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Template:RQ:Guardian
01:20:36<nicolas17>seems to be simply "if archiveurl is empty then {{maintenance line|Can we archive this URL?}}"
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01:23:34<@JAA>Ah, I expected it to be in Module:quote.
01:24:06<@JAA>Weird that it's only in the Guardian template.
01:25:23<nicolas17>I guess theguardian is known for breaking links? :D
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02:57:06<emtee>This endpoint is useful for getting "related videos" https://www.vbox7.com/aj/item/related?vid=b312ac1a7a
02:57:33<@JAA>Do we know yet whether it returns georestricted videos?
02:58:41<emtee>I have started recursively fetching it to gather valid video ids. So far around 250k discovered.
02:59:21<missaustraliana>what is vbox7
02:59:51<missaustraliana>the link sends me to a json with russion videos which makes be believe it is russion
02:59:55<missaustraliana>russian*
03:00:09<flashfire42>Bulgarian apparently
03:00:31<missaustraliana>yeah i just googled it. the home page looks.... clean.
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03:01:54<missaustraliana>JAA: from the videos i clicked on my home page it seems to playback fine from australia
03:02:12<missaustraliana>i have no clue how to @ in my client ;-;
03:02:40<fireonlive>you did it right; there's no 'mention' on IRC as is on Discord/etc
03:02:54<fireonlive>basically anything that has someone's nick in it
03:02:54<missaustraliana>oop
03:02:59<missaustraliana>ok
03:03:50<emtee>@JAA it looks like from a non-bulgarian IP this endpoint returns only some of the videos. Notably the so called partner channels which we're not interested in
03:04:12<missaustraliana>i have a vpn if you want me to try it out
03:06:03<emtee>Sure, you should see some more videos if it works
03:06:11<@JAA>Yep, 'nick:' or 'nick,' prepended to the message is how you do it on IRC. Most clients will then 'ping' you when your nick gets mentioned like that.
03:06:19<@JAA>(And no @ on IRC)
03:06:24<missaustraliana>gotcha
03:06:38<@JAA>emtee: Hmm, too bad.
03:06:56<missaustraliana>ill load up my vpn rn. ill disconnect for a sec. can someone give me an endpoint or smth to test it out on
03:08:13<missaustraliana> disconnecting hold on
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03:09:09<@JAA>If you get an MPD URL on https://www.vbox7.com/aj/player/item/options?vid=b312ac1a7a in the 'src' field, it's working. If you get an MP4, it's not.
03:09:17<missaustraliana>ah this
03:09:38<missaustraliana>"src": "https://media07.vbox7.com/vn/vn_254.mp4",
03:10:03<missaustraliana>ill reload my browser
03:10:06<@JAA>Yeah, that's the 'nah bro' placeholder video.
03:10:10<missaustraliana>it probs hasnt taken effect yet
03:11:09<missaustraliana>it seems like its immune to vpns
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03:11:23<missaustraliana>i checked my ip yet i still get the mp4
03:11:36<emtee>Which VPN is that
03:11:44<missaustraliana>surfshark
03:11:50<missaustraliana>im on trial
03:12:16<@JAA>I'd be surprised if the most common VPNs weren't blacklisted.
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03:12:53<missaustraliana>idk of any vpns in bulgaria that arent popular
03:13:43<missaustraliana>OH
03:13:45<@JAA>emtee: How do I check whether a particular video is one that'll be hidden?
03:13:52<missaustraliana>wait the ip says im in the UK?
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03:15:05<missaust_>ok im in bulgaria now
03:15:12<missaust_>JAA, can you send that link again
03:15:19<missaust_>the feed cleared
03:15:33<@JAA>https://www.vbox7.com/aj/player/item/options?vid=b312ac1a7a
03:15:56<missaust_>still locked out
03:16:15<missaust_>156.146.55.195
03:16:18<missaust_>thats my ip
03:16:28<missaust_>probably look if that links to surfshark
03:16:45<missaust_>ISP: DataCamp Limited
03:16:45<missaust_>Services: Network Sharing Device
03:16:45<missaust_>City: Gotse Delchev
03:16:47<missaust_>Region: Blagoevgrad Province
03:16:49<missaust_>Country: Bulgaria
03:16:57<missaust_>thats what i got
03:17:05<@JAA>It seems that the header workaround works for the recommendation endpoint, too.
03:17:43<missaust_>regarless of ip or?
03:17:57<emtee>X-Forwarded-For with a Bulgarian ip?
03:18:09<nicolas17><missaust_> ok im in bulgaria now
03:18:11<nicolas17>that was a quick flight
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03:18:24<@JAA>Yeah, that.
03:18:32<missaust_>i did not leave the fuk
03:18:51<missaust_>yeah i took a missile over
03:19:18<missaust_>wait are yall on mac
03:19:28<missaust_>i have a good header sender app and shit
03:19:47<emtee>Sweet if that works it's gonna make things a lot easier
03:20:03<missaust_>yeah its free too its called insomnia
03:20:11<@JAA>lol macOS
03:20:19<missaust_>if you dont have a mac feed it to me and i can run it
03:20:54<emtee>Postman is good for that
03:21:02<@JAA>emtee: Is geoblocked vs not geoblocked the best distinction we can make about what will be affected?
03:21:27<@JAA>curl, wget, or hell, even openssl s_client. :-)
03:21:37<fireonlive>macOS++
03:21:37<eggdrop>[karma] 'macOS' now has 0 karma!
03:21:43<fireonlive>lol 0
03:21:46<@JAA>:-P
03:21:48<missaust_>is it done through GET or POST
03:21:49<fireonlive>:P
03:22:03<@JAA>All I've seen was GET.
03:22:11<missaust_>WAIT
03:22:16<missaust_>i got the mpd
03:22:20<missaust_>using insomnia
03:22:26<missaust_> "src": "https:\/\/edge211.vbox7.com\/sl\/PxhMGInsZCVmQhXcn3qYUA\/1706220000\/b3\/b312ac1a7a\/b312ac1a7a.mpd",
03:22:26<emtee>I haven't noticed any other difference between API responses JAA
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03:23:23<@JAA>Hmm, unfortunate.
03:23:31<emtee>We could blacklist the known corporate style channels
03:23:45<missaust_>there should be a list
03:23:45<@JAA>Either that or retrieve the API data twice, I guess.
03:23:47<emtee>They're not too much they just upload a ton
03:23:55<@JAA>Or just archive everything.
03:24:04<missaust_>does it rlly matter
03:24:04<@JAA>Ah
03:24:22<@JAA>Depends on how much it increases the size.
03:24:23<missaust_>wait is vbox closing is that why we are here
03:24:24<@JAA>Videos be huge.
03:24:47<@JAA>They're removing all user-uploaded content from public view in a month.
03:24:47<missaust_>JAA, it seems like from the videos ive seen theyve only gone up to 480
03:24:48<emtee>The most valuables are from the early days 2006-2012
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03:25:17<emtee>They are fairly low quality and should be small sizes
03:25:23<@JAA>I'm literally just looking at a 1080p one, but ok.
03:25:35<emtee>Yeah it's quite recent
03:25:44<emtee>The one you are looking at
03:26:06<@JAA>Likely. I don't see a date anywhere.
03:26:38<@JAA>Last-Modified timestamp is a few hours ago, but no idea whether that's accurate.
03:26:59<missaust_>probably not
03:27:14<@JAA>Oh, there's an 'ago' field in the API reply.
03:27:14<emtee>There is an "ago" value in the api response
03:27:16<@JAA>Thanks, I hate it.
03:27:19<emtee>Thats accurate
03:27:33<@JAA>Why not put a timestamp or ISO-8601 string there? Ugh.
03:27:58<missaust_>pov: they gave a skid a computer and told them program our page
03:28:31<emtee>There is one in a script tag if you look at the page source
03:28:38<emtee>But it's not in the API response
03:29:03<missaust_>as far as im aware in now able to play videos from the website
03:29:03<@JAA>Yeah, the Last-Modified timestamp is not accurate for older uploads.
03:30:44<@JAA>The video page doesn't seem to differ by IP at all (apart from the recommendations), so that's nice.
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03:34:32<nstrom|m><JAA> "I'd be surprised if the most..." <- privateinternetaccess worked for me, and their "bg" ip is just fake geolocated, it's actually in .ro
03:34:43<emtee>Here's an example of an older video that returns an mp4 not an mpd
03:34:50<emtee>https://www.vbox7.com/play:e437b2af76
03:35:16<emtee>But it is a real mp4 not the fake one that tells you to f off
03:35:53<@JAA>I wonder whether all real videos are in /sl/ and all fake ones in /vn/.
03:37:55<emtee>We may not need to care about that if the header trick works
03:38:22<@JAA>Yeah, but it'd be good to have a check in, in case they realise what's going on and remove that.
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03:38:57<emtee>Yeah makes sense
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03:41:24<emtee>So far all fake videos I've encountered have been in /vn/
03:41:36<emtee>I'm using a US proxy to test that
03:42:31<emtee>Also real videos always include the video id somewhere in the url
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06:01:49<h2ibot>Bear created Toptal (+1366, Created page with "'''TopTal''' (abbreviation…): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?title=Toptal
06:01:50<h2ibot>Beastbg8 created Vbox7 (+871, Created page with "{{Infobox project | title =…): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?title=Vbox7
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06:18:02<fireonlive>-+rss- Arno A. Penzias, 90, Dies; Nobel Physicist Confirmed Big Bang Theory: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/22/science/space/arno-a-penzias-dead.html https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39098603
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07:12:02<tzt>anon.cafe, an anonymous imageboard, is shutting down on March 15
07:12:05<tzt>https://anon.cafe/meta/res/16466.html
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09:16:28<Pedrosso>Why hasn't AB run through everything here? https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/ArchiveBot/Languages
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13:12:29<TheTechRobo>IIRC those pages are no longer kept up to date because the bot managing them broke
13:14:42<Pedrosso>Ahhh
13:14:45<Pedrosso>What bot was it?
13:16:06<Pedrosso>And even so, a majority of the ones it says have not been grabbed do not have AB logs of having been grabbed (though some have been)
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13:37:20<h2ibot>OrIdow6 edited List of websites excluded from the Wayback Machine (+25, purplepussy.net): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=51548&oldid=51529
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14:00:25<h2ibot>JAABot edited List of websites excluded from the Wayback Machine (+0): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=51549&oldid=51548
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15:10:39<nautical_jesus>u/JohnBalvin has made a scraper for vbox7:
15:10:39<nautical_jesus>https://www.reddit.com/r/webscraping/comments/19dpq7p/vbox7_scraper_made_pure_in_go/
15:11:55<nautical_jesus>also, yt-dlp (through tartube) seems to work for me with a lot more vbox7 videos now, for some reason
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16:26:17<Notrealname1234>pokemon.com/us/pokemon-news/pokemon-tv-to-discontinue-in-march-2024 Pokémon TV is shutting down on March 28, 2024.
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16:31:00<@arkiver>JAA: not sure if a project is up in time
16:37:59<h2ibot>Imer edited Deathwatch (+182, Add Pokemon TV): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=51550&oldid=51545
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16:38:46<imer>I think that's the right url for it
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16:48:08<qwertyasdfuiopghjkl>imer: I think it was https://watch.pokemon.com/ (which is already redirecting to the shutdown notice)
16:48:51<imer>well, how does that work if it's not shut down yet!
16:52:32<fireonlive>ahh, you can only use the app to watch content now
16:52:46<fireonlive>but you can't download the app since 2024-01-08
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16:54:02<h2ibot>Imer edited Deathwatch (+122, Pokemon TV url correction): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=51551&oldid=51550
16:54:07<imer>qwertyasdfuiopghjkl: ^ thanks
16:54:43<qwertyasdfuiopghjkl>:)
16:55:22<fireonlive>looks like old URLs don't work anymore: https://watch.pokemon.com/en-us/player.html?id=72301313f7cb47b78ba8e187f4010c70 https://watch.pokemon.com/en-us/player.html?id=caf37458e4be48a3b86ee774b2f9cf13
16:55:35<fireonlive>so i guess app only (if you already have it) until they pull the plug
16:55:50<fireonlive>(URLs found on Kagi)
16:57:02<h2ibot>Imer edited Deathwatch (+67, Pokemon TV app removal date): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=51552&oldid=51551
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16:58:34<imer>looks like not really much that can be done then
16:59:27<fireonlive>(don't murder me)
16:59:41<fireonlive>(well metaphorically)
16:59:59<fireonlive>yeah looks like it's gone
17:00:03<h2ibot>FireonLive edited Deathwatch (-1, small typo fix): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=51553&oldid=51552
17:00:04<kiska>fireonlive: When this vbox project starts highlight me? I think I can bring up some VMs :D
17:00:23<fireonlive>kiska: ^_^ will try :D
17:01:01<fireonlive>https://github.com/yt-dlp/yt-dlp/blob/a40b0070c2a00d3ed839897462171a82323aa875/yt_dlp/extractor/pokemon.py#L11
17:01:06<fireonlive>ugh ignore the line marker
17:01:09<imer>fireonlive: thanks :p
17:01:22<fireonlive>:p
17:01:31<fireonlive>the API probably is still up?
17:01:44<kiska>Or any project that might require some compute/bandwidth
17:02:14<imer>kiska: #// :D
17:02:37<kiska>That isn't that :D
17:02:42<imer>aww
17:02:47<kiska>Cause I don't like responding to hetzner emails
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17:04:56<fireonlive>'hi again hetzner, this website owner (or script they're running) is clearly the stupidest being on the planet. please tell them i said this and ignore their whiny bullshit. thanks, kiska'
17:05:23<kiska>Yeah but I like my high VM quota :D
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17:06:17<fireonlive>:D
17:06:19<fireonlive>true
17:06:20<fireonlive>https://github.com/Slluxx/pokemontv/blob/api/mappings.json
17:06:24<fireonlive>https://www.pokemon.com/api/pokemontv/v2/channels/us/
17:07:03<fireonlive>"offline_url":"https://s2.content.video.llnw.net/smedia/4953336d7f544f678a12270b176ea386/-f/J8RGE4d-nqe-qE74RRQcXjzIaxtJ8ioHIzoXRUWxs/pttp_ep01_en_20230816_1080p.mp4"
17:07:07<fireonlive>🤔
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17:09:19<fireonlive>"skimming_thumbnail_url_base":"https://s2.content.video.llnw.net/images-prod/SVMzbX9UT2cihInCxduo4Y/rQeQhovJSRUvFaCyR8stlI/skim/" < interesting
17:09:37<fireonlive>https://github.com/Slluxx/pokemontv/tree/main is the main client, https://github.com/Slluxx/pokemontv/tree/api has an archive of their API data
17:09:51<fireonlive>though it seems you can just fetch at least some of it yourself
17:11:21<fireonlive>(mentions something about a proxy, but idk)
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17:39:08<Darken>@fireonlive got it working now
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17:41:09<fireonlive>:)
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17:49:33<imer>fireonlive: could probably dump those into ab for each region, right?
17:49:40<imer>if we wanted to save stuff
17:50:33<imer>maybe some manual handling for the m3u8 files so they recurse properly?
17:51:01<imer>probably going to be chonky though
18:01:14<h2ibot>JustAnotherArchivist edited Toptal (+165, Fix capitalisation; add Hastebin ruination): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=51554&oldid=51546
18:08:11<fireonlive>hmm yeah i think that would work with url extraction? would also have to handle the skimming thumbnails (find out how their urls are generated)
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18:08:30<fireonlive>or even manually; but it would be quite chonky indeed
18:44:27<imer>couldn't find any reference in the web player code to it from a cursory glance (via wbm)
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18:46:47<fireonlive>wonder if the third party clients reference it
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18:48:08<fireonlive>can't imagine theyu'd be too important vs subtites etc since they're just still frames from the video
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23:02:08<pokechu22>22:58 <flashfire42> https://www.smni.com/ has been told to shut down
23:02:10<pokechu22>22:58 <flashfire42> https://www.rappler.com/philippines/what-we-know-so-far-ntc-order-smni-radio-tv-operations-2024/
23:02:16<pokechu22>behind strict cloudflare, dunno if we can do anything about it
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