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| 09:53:29 | <h2ibot> | Tech234a edited List of websites excluded from the Wayback Machine (+176, Testflight URLs): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=51516&oldid=51503 |
| 09:54:30 | <h2ibot> | Tech234a edited List of websites excluded from the Wayback Machine/Partial exclusions (+93, TestFlight): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=51517&oldid=51387 |
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| 10:00:31 | <h2ibot> | JAABot edited List of websites excluded from the Wayback Machine (+0): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=51518&oldid=51516 |
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| 11:04:19 | <that_lurker> | was there a grab of vmwares website yet? Now that Broadcom is starting the shrinking of the vmware products. |
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| 14:18:49 | <project10> | https://openrss.org/blog/bluesky-has-launched-rss-feeds |
| 14:19:00 | <@JAA> | that_lurker: We ran a bunch of it through AB in Nov. |
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| 15:42:43 | <aninternettroll> | hi, https://statistikk.lanekassen.no/will be moved under the main domain on friday and i see the wayback machine archives are a bit old. Can someone here crawl it? |
| 15:44:40 | <project10> | https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-01-16/synopsys-to-buy-software-maker-ansys-for-35-billion https://www.ansys.com/ |
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| 15:55:08 | <@JAA> | aninternettroll: I've thrown it into ArchiveBot. |
| 15:55:16 | <aninternettroll> | thanks! |
| 16:06:45 | <h2ibot> | YetAnotherArchiver edited The WARC Ecosystem (+14, /* Tools */ Update info): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=51519&oldid=51511 |
| 16:06:46 | <h2ibot> | Flama12333 edited Games (+194, is ok to add .io games?): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=51520&oldid=50165 |
| 16:06:47 | <h2ibot> | Zdev edited Panoramio (-1, typo): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=51521&oldid=47732 |
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| 17:25:10 | <kiska5> | Server7 is this |
| 17:25:18 | <kiska5> | Oh whoops |
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| 18:11:54 | <pokechu22> | DopefishJustin: the previous beyond3d job never finished due to it being on an archivebot pipeline that got shut down. So it probably needs to be done again in full for completeness (maybe via qwarc). (The site also changed its forum theme(?) at some point since then.) |
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| 18:51:27 | <manu|m> | i’m sorry for the c3manu relog spam. i have no idea what's going on and will try not to join any channels untitl i got that sorted out :( |
| 18:51:48 | <manu|m> | ..or my bouncer is back online |
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| 19:00:35 | <fireonlive> | manu|m: are you trying to join #37c3? |
| 19:01:17 | <manu|m> | it’s probably in my autojoin list, yeah |
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| 19:03:02 | <c3manu> | that seems to work. how is that? |
| 19:03:10 | <fireonlive> | seems ok :) |
| 19:03:45 | <fireonlive> | ah yeah hexchat had some issues with it |
| 19:03:56 | <fireonlive> | also other clients due to just the amount of people |
| 19:04:15 | <c3manu> | i should try another client then :) |
| 19:04:31 | <c3manu> | thanks for pointing out the problem (: |
| 19:04:35 | <fireonlive> | actually iirc i tried raw openssl s_client and same thing |
| 19:05:07 | <fireonlive> | but might be ok now if there's a delay on joining each channel |
| 19:05:14 | <fireonlive> | when reconnecting |
| 19:05:46 | <@JAA> | I think the conclusion in #hackint was that issuing WHO on #37c3 was immediately causing Max SendQ, regardless of your client's rate limiting. |
| 19:06:05 | <@JAA> | But the limit was supposedly bumped, so not sure. |
| 19:06:20 | <c3manu> | 37C3 is over anyways :) |
| 19:06:28 | <@JAA> | Maybe it only happens without rate limiting now. |
| 19:06:49 | <fireonlive> | ah yeah that's it |
| 19:06:56 | <fireonlive> | i can JOIN #37c3 now w/o issue |
| 19:07:02 | <c3manu> | i’m a total noob when it comes to irc, i have to admit |
| 19:07:04 | <fireonlive> | but i think if you client joins that, and a bunch of other channels |
| 19:07:19 | <fireonlive> | the queued (automatic) names list responses will cause the server to force you off |
| 19:07:28 | <fireonlive> | 'we have too much data in the pipeline for client X, bye!' |
| 19:08:15 | <fireonlive> | ye it's over :3 |
| 19:08:33 | <fireonlive> | if you have or can find a client (or set up ZNC) to have a delay on rejoining channels on connect you should be good |
| 19:08:57 | <fireonlive> | but as-is w/o being in 37c3 you're fine |
| 19:10:46 | <fireonlive> | JAA: in my testing even just issuing a JOIN on the channel would immediately sendq you haha |
| 19:10:53 | <fireonlive> | but a WHO wouldn't help either |
| 19:11:25 | <@JAA> | Nice |
| 19:12:04 | <@JAA> | Yeah, IRC has some scaling issues. |
| 19:12:25 | <fireonlive> | ye some tweaks needed in some cases |
| 19:13:21 | <fireonlive> | just tried a JOIN/WHO in pretty quick order without issue, so looks like the limit was raised successfully (2940 users there) |
| 19:13:54 | <fireonlive> | (then you add in the fun variables like how fast your client can receive that, latency, etc i guess!) |
| 19:18:16 | <@JAA> | :-) |
| 19:19:25 | <nicolas17> | well that sounds like a bug in the server |
| 19:20:18 | <nicolas17> | they should be rate-limiting how fast they send the user list instead of trying to send() it all at once into network buffers |
| 19:20:45 | <@JAA> | That's not the problem. There's a separate buffer, and if that gets too full, you get disconnected because you're assumed to not read data from the server fast enough. |
| 19:21:11 | <@JAA> | Hence 'Max SendQ [send queue] exceeded'. |
| 19:21:54 | <nicolas17> | so that's not the system SendQ? |
| 19:21:59 | <@JAA> | Increasing the limit on the send queue means higher RAM usage for each connected client. |
| 19:23:00 | <nicolas17> | libera.chat has more channels than hackint #37c3 has users, and can handle /list without dying :D |
| 19:23:16 | <@JAA> | I'm pretty sure it's a separate queue inside the ircd. |
| 19:24:30 | <@JAA> | At least some ircds have special handling for LIST where they suspend the listing when the buffer gets full. |
| 19:25:31 | <@JAA> | SAFELIST is the keyword here. |
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