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00:29:15 | <nicolas17> | JAA: is it possible to set a cookie/header in archivebot? |
00:29:22 | <@JAA> | nicolas17: No |
00:29:50 | <nicolas17> | dammit |
00:29:55 | <nicolas17> | <a id="logo" class="logo" href="./index.php?sid=34673d68f5d91e04536838e3b7a446a6"> |
00:30:14 | <nicolas17> | if there's no session ID cookie in the request, the response adds a sid= to all links |
00:30:59 | <@JAA> | Yeah, we can add a dummy request to https://foro.argenteam.net/?archiveteam or similar at the start to make it set the cookie before fetching the pages of interest. |
00:31:13 | <nicolas17> | oh it does preserve received cookies between requests? |
00:31:30 | <@JAA> | Yes, |
00:31:35 | <@JAA> | s/,// |
00:32:14 | <@JAA> | Setting a value manually probably wouldn't work anyway for the session ID. |
00:32:24 | <nicolas17> | yeah it might be per IP? |
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00:36:17 | <nicolas17> | https://transfer.archivete.am/BRoPl/foro.argenteam.net-public-forums.txt.zst okay, I think this will do it |
00:38:28 | <nicolas17> | lmk if you do the !ao< so I add the job ID to the wiki |
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00:39:03 | <@JAA> | Already submitted. |
00:40:26 | <h2ibot> | Nicolas17v2 edited ARGENTeaM (+61, Add forum AB job): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=51285&oldid=51284 |
00:42:14 | <fireonlive> | v2 on the wiki eh |
00:42:20 | <fireonlive> | oh nvm |
00:42:35 | <@JAA> | What was your request rate for the scraping? |
00:42:38 | <fireonlive> | User:... tells all |
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01:30:05 | <nicolas17> | JAA: I used 10 parallel wgets, I just timed it and it did 22 req/s |
01:31:05 | <nicolas17> | I see the queue is barely going down, probably collecting lots of page requisites :P |
01:31:52 | <@JAA> | Not bad. :-) |
01:53:46 | <pabs> | Barto Nulo|m - #gitgud is mostly about JAA saving git bundles to archive.org (and I think also web issues/PRs to the WBM), but I also lurk there and am doing SWH SCN requests for GitHub users, the SWH SCN API is open to everyone else though, but with rate limits |
01:57:40 | <h2ibot> | FireonLive edited Telegram (-803, remove notable channels section.…): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=51286&oldid=51176 |
02:00:11 | <that_lurker> | fireonlive: Welp thats better than what I did :P |
02:00:57 | <fireonlive> | did you make an edit? xP |
02:04:04 | <that_lurker> | Yep. I just wanted to clarify the section somewhat more, but just deleting it was also on my mind :P |
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02:34:14 | <fireonlive> | ah :3 |
02:51:59 | <nicolas17> | looks like there's lots of argenteam.net/resources/covers/*.jpg images on forum posts, which means they will be duplicated with the previous job that grabbed the webpages |
02:52:21 | <nicolas17> | hmph, damn dupes |
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03:47:32 | <@JAA> | nicolas17: And it's done. That was faster than expected. |
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04:26:13 | <nicolas17> | JAA: it looks like there's a similarly-sized number of URLs corresponding to forum threads in login-required forums :/ |
04:26:34 | <nicolas17> | idk what's up with that |
04:26:53 | <nicolas17> | why make some forums available anonymously, and others require login but *any* login is fine? |
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04:51:51 | <Nulo|m> | <pabs> "Barto Nulo - #gitgud is mostly..." <- i have no clue what SWH SCN means |
04:52:33 | <nicolas17> | "doing a Save Code Now request in Software Heritage" |
04:53:08 | <pabs> | yep |
04:53:40 | <Nulo|m> | okay, i believe you already picked them from #gitgud no? otherwise https://pastebin.com/bDAqGRsn / https://pastebin.com/6vk81xnE |
04:53:51 | <pabs> | correct |
04:53:59 | <pabs> | and also the gitlabs JAA mentioned on #codearchiver |
04:55:56 | <Nulo|m> | i'm doing my own overengineered archiving effort for all datasets in argentinian gov CKANs and related |
04:56:03 | <Nulo|m> | https://github.com/catdevnull/transicion-desordenada-diablo in spanish |
04:58:44 | <nicolas17> | https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/Argentina |
05:00:00 | <Nulo|m> | i don't see any of the data hub thingies, here's my list: https://github.com/catdevnull/transicion-desordenada-diablo/blob/master/downloader/config.js |
05:00:06 | <Nulo|m> | there's more, these are the CKAN ones |
05:00:10 | <nicolas17> | yes so maybe we should add them :) |
05:00:42 | <Nulo|m> | it's ~150 GB uncompressed and ~85 GB gzipped |
05:01:09 | <@JAA> | Oh dear |
05:01:21 | <@JAA> | I've thrown a couple of those into ArchiveBot, but... |
05:02:34 | <Nulo|m> | i am downloading them myself and i will distribute them later (and should probably upload to archive.org) so i'm not personally concerned |
05:02:54 | <@JAA> | I'm assuming you're just downloading plain files though, not as WARCs. |
05:03:09 | <@JAA> | So no integration into the Wayback Machine. |
05:03:13 | <Nulo|m> | yes indeed |
05:03:22 | <Nulo|m> | i made my own fancy javascript frontend to navigate it |
05:03:23 | <@JAA> | But yeah, at least there'll be a copy. :-) |
05:03:57 | <@JAA> | datos.gob.ar is either horribly overloaded or hosted on a potato. |
05:04:06 | <nicolas17> | for all I know CKAN might involve POST requests :P |
05:04:17 | <nicolas17> | (I didn't check) |
05:04:44 | <@JAA> | It *seems* to work reasonably well in AB, apart from the expected filter faceting. |
05:04:45 | <Nulo|m> | i don't think so, |
05:05:19 | <Nulo|m> | my method is that most of these ones have a /data.json path and those have downloadURLs, it's all GETs. the API is also all GETs (for the ones that don't have the data.json plugin) |
05:05:50 | <@JAA> | I was just about to ask what you're fetching exactly. Sounds good then. |
05:06:44 | <Nulo|m> | the data.json (that has most metadata) (or i scrap the api and generate one with less data from that) and all the downloadURLs |
05:07:06 | <@JAA> | AB doesn't seem to find /data.json. Not that I'm terribly surprised. |
05:07:30 | <@JAA> | But there probably shouldn't be a difference to what's listed on the web pages. |
05:07:43 | <@JAA> | Just more efficient to fetch everything that way. |
05:07:50 | <Nulo|m> | yep |
05:08:57 | <Nulo|m> | i'll be uploading my new dump with 147GB as i added a few big ones (they didn't have the data.json plugin so i had to write the glue code), does dropping a torrent here make sense? |
05:09:20 | <Nulo|m> | i'm inexperienced with archive.org, can i just.. upload ~90GB? or do i need permission |
05:12:30 | <Nulo|m> | is https://www.youtube.com/@AudiovisualTelam getting archived? i don't see it in the wiki page |
05:13:04 | <nicolas17> | is it multiple files? |
05:13:15 | <nicolas17> | uploading 90GB as a single file has a big risk of being interrupted |
05:13:31 | <Nulo|m> | they are multiple files of sizes varying very small to a few GB |
05:14:04 | <nicolas17> | uploading 90GB as a single item with multiple files is probably a bad idea anyway, you shold probably do one per server or something? |
05:15:08 | <Nulo|m> | well, i've been taking the nuclear approach and automating downloading and dumping all together because they are so many. but yes, i can upload them separately, can that be scripted? |
05:16:10 | <nicolas17> | https://archive.org/developers/internetarchive/cli.html |
05:16:21 | <pabs> | https://github.com/jjjake/internetarchive |
05:16:48 | <@JAA> | (Same thing, to avoid confusion) |
05:27:37 | <h2ibot> | JacksonChen666 edited URLTeam (+367, 2137.pl URL shortener): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=51287&oldid=51193 |
05:27:38 | <h2ibot> | Flama12333 edited BetaArchive (+97, same of ftp access): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=51288&oldid=38443 |
05:27:39 | <h2ibot> | Taka edited Deathwatch (+181, /* 2024 */ Added Wezzy): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=51289&oldid=51267 |
05:27:40 | <h2ibot> | Usernam edited Deathwatch (+128, /* 2024 */): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=51290&oldid=51289 |
05:27:41 | <h2ibot> | Inti83 edited Argentina (+455, /* Memory and Human Rights */ add some new sites): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=51291&oldid=51278 |
05:27:42 | <h2ibot> | Rad XXXack edited Blip.tv (-5, searchable index url fixed): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=51292&oldid=47802 |
05:27:45 | <@JAA> | If anyone understands what that BetaArchive edit is trying to say exactly, please edit. |
05:29:37 | <h2ibot> | JustAnotherArchivist changed the user rights of User:Usernam |
05:29:38 | <h2ibot> | JustAnotherArchivist changed the user rights of User:JacksonChen666 |
05:31:48 | <pokechu22> | JAA: I'm guessing they're saying something like the FTP interface was shut down and replaced with something else with the same data on April 23, but I'm not sure |
05:32:10 | <@JAA> | Yeah, also my guess, but couldn't find anything on the website to confirm it. |
05:32:58 | <@JAA> | Oh, should've checked the forums: https://www.betaarchive.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=44644 |
05:33:05 | <project10> | could I trouble you for wiki edit rights on user:Project10 while you're in there, JAA? |
05:40:39 | <h2ibot> | JustAnotherArchivist edited BetaArchive (+149, Rephrase FTP shutdown and add reference; update…): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=51293&oldid=51288 |
05:42:39 | <h2ibot> | JustAnotherArchivist changed the user rights of User:Project10 |
05:42:40 | <h2ibot> | JustAnotherArchivist changed the user rights of User:That lurker |
05:42:56 | <project10> | thanks :) |
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06:44:07 | <Nulo|m> | off to a bad start re: uploading my dumps to IA: error uploading /datos.csjn.gov.ar_/[..]/creditos-y-ejecucion-2019-mensual-saf-335---febrero-2020.pdf.gz: Uploaded content is unacceptable. - error checking pdf file |
06:44:24 | <Nulo|m> | i have all files gzipped (irrespective of type) to save space in the torrent and in the server |
06:47:49 | <nicolas17> | yeah at least for PDFs you probably shouldn't... |
06:48:11 | <nicolas17> | IA will let you search text in PDFs, even if they are image PDFs (eg. scanned) by doing OCR |
06:48:29 | <nicolas17> | if gzipped that won't work |
06:53:56 | <Vokun> | If a post on the wiki is quoting something, should a date in the quote still be swapped to the new date format, or should it be left alone? |
06:54:43 | <Nulo|m> | <nicolas17> "if gzipped that won't work" <- why doesn't it just disable that functionality :( |
06:54:57 | <nicolas17> | oh I don't know *why* it doesn't let you upload |
06:55:00 | <h2ibot> | Vokunal edited Kephost.com (+31, /* Closure */): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=51294&oldid=47946 |
06:55:11 | <Nulo|m> | i'll try with the uncompressed copy i guess |
06:55:15 | <nicolas17> | I'm saying even if it let you upload .pdf.gz, it seems like a good idea to not gzip PDFs |
06:55:37 | <Nulo|m> | yeah it's not great, it just was a lazy decision i made |
06:56:09 | <Nulo|m> | thank you all! going to sleep |
06:57:00 | <h2ibot> | Vokunal edited Ghostbin (+52, updated to new date system): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=51295&oldid=46969 |
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08:29:32 | <h2ibot> | Vokunal edited Turkey Media Crackdown (+13, /* Endangered Newspapers: */ date format): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=51321&oldid=30123 |
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10:50:33 | <thuban> | Vokun: imo, if the date isn't otherwise given in the article, do use the datetime template but wrap it in square brackets; if it is, leave the quotation as-is |
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11:14:58 | <missaustraliana> | can someone approve my edit to Deathwatch? I added Studio 10 to the axe |
11:15:06 | <missaustraliana> | axe list* |
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16:33:21 | <nulldata> | https://d2iq.com/, an Enterprise Kubernetes Management Platform, is shutting down/selling assets. https://www.theinformation.com/articles/a16z-backed-startup-that-once-rejected-150m-sale-to-microsoft-shuts-down |
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17:23:59 | <Pedrosso> | If you have an archive of a site, be it by grab-site or other tools more specific to that site, it's made clear that it can't be trusted to be put into wayback but is it still expected / good to upload as an item? |
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17:39:47 | <thuban> | Pedrosso: yes! |
17:40:30 | <Pedrosso> | Awesome. Are there any specific metadata suggestions in the case of grab-site? |
17:44:11 | <thuban> | i don't upload warcs much, so i don't have any, but someone else might |
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18:13:35 | <hhhb> | Did anyone noticed that twitter changed its media section? If you are on there and logged in, the media section now displays a grid of images, one for each tweet. If tweet has 2+ images, it only shows the first one. Extracting URLs will only get that image URL since the 2nd and beyond URLs aren't on the HTML until you click on the image, and press |
18:13:36 | <hhhb> | left/right to view additional images |
18:16:39 | <hhhb> | If you want to save tweets, which by the way could fail silently - the WBM itself does not emit any errors, but viewing the playback URL shows that the page itself is loaded, but the tweet content will not load with a message saying "something went wrong" message. You'll want to save nitter front end instead. |
18:17:54 | <hhhb> | if a tweet fails to load on nitter, it will show an error page, I would assume would error 4XX or 5XX, which causes an error to appear when saving the page without the need to check the playback URL |
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22:12:50 | <eggdrop> | [karma] 'Vokun' now has 1 karma! |
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22:20:29 | <h2ibot> | Vokunal edited ESPN Forums (+10, date format): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=51332&oldid=28887 |
22:21:30 | <h2ibot> | Vokunal edited Instacast (+20, date format): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=51333&oldid=47933 |
22:22:30 | <h2ibot> | Vokunal edited Moegirlpedia (+37, date format): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=51334&oldid=49240 |
22:23:30 | <h2ibot> | Vokunal edited Moegirlpedia (+1, spelling): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=51335&oldid=51334 |
22:25:30 | <h2ibot> | Vokunal edited List of websites excluded from the Wayback Machine/Former exclusions (+8, date format): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=51336&oldid=51211 |
22:34:53 | <thuban> | at some point i've got to go through the 'endangered' category, because i know for a fact that some of them are in fact dead |
22:35:33 | <h2ibot> | Vokunal edited URLTeam (+117, /* Non-warrior projects */ date format): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=51337&oldid=51287 |
22:35:41 | <thuban> | i want to revamp fire drill with my proposed defcon system too, but... should get work done first... |
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22:42:25 | <@JAA> | Vokun: EDT is UTC-4, not -5. (EST is -5.) |
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22:56:24 | <missaustraliana> | Still waiting for someone to approve my edit. Not sure if theres an ID type thing or reference number i need to provide |
23:00:37 | <h2ibot> | Amphitryon edited URLTeam/Dead (+0, /* Dead or Broken */ Update last known…): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=51338&oldid=51192 |
23:00:38 | <h2ibot> | Missaustraliana edited Deathwatch (+160, Add Studio 10): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=51339&oldid=51290 |
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23:01:38 | <h2ibot> | HHHB edited Talk:Twitter (+1683, /* Twitter have changed its media section, it…): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=51341&oldid=50606 |
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23:06:14 | <that_lurker> | Seems like JAA got tired of approving all the rapid edits :3 |
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23:09:02 | <@JAA> | The mod system was never intended as a barrier to submission but as a spam filter without a registration lock. So... yeah :-) |
23:09:28 | <@JAA> | I wish the mod interface had a button to directly make someone automoderated. |
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