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00:38:05<h2ibot>JustAnotherArchivist edited Deathwatch (+201, /* 2024 */ Add TinyLetter): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=51231&oldid=51222
00:45:06<h2ibot>JustAnotherArchivist edited Deathwatch (+59, /* 2024 */ Add DK Find Out!): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=51232&oldid=51231
01:22:39<nicolas17>heh I started a mediafire worker 25 hours ago
01:22:52<nicolas17>it completed 7 (seven) items
01:23:20<@JAA>Yes, there isn't much running through that project.
01:24:03<nicolas17>I'll start telegram and see how much concurrency I can get away with on a single core
02:37:24<@JAA>Over the past week or so (although I only tried on three days), I've managed to grab all the Tesla Roadster PDFs. The online manual thing still remains to be done though. I'll try, but I'm not sure that'll get anywhere.
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03:38:46<h2ibot>FireonLive edited Current Projects (+24, invisibly move imgur to the 'Long-term'…): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=51233&oldid=51173
03:39:12<fireonlive>whomever decided that things on mediawiki must start with a capital letter
03:39:16<fireonlive>🖕right here
03:40:37<project10>WhatsWrongWithCamelCasing?
03:41:45<fireonlive>some things, just, like, start with a lower case letter, man
03:42:37<pokechu22>There's a way of changing that with displaytitle but I don't know whether that's enabled on the archiveteam wiki
03:42:40<fireonlive>(also to all the developers using text-transform on my text i see you, and you're the first into the meat shredders)
03:42:54<fireonlive>oh neat
03:43:02<pokechu22>wait, no, it definitely is, given what's going on at https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/YouTube
03:43:11<pokechu22>perhaps that one's going a bit too far though :)
03:43:37<@arkiver>so bluesky would make a public web interface
03:43:43<@arkiver>that is still not up i guess?
03:44:44<fireonlive>test link.. https://bsky.app/profile/archive.org/post/3kfdxl66l2e25
03:44:54<fireonlive>looks like no
03:44:57<@arkiver>yeah
03:47:02<TheTechRobo>There is the og:description etc there, though.
03:47:48<h2ibot>FireonLive edited Current Projects (-436, remove expired recently finished projects): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=51234&oldid=51233
03:49:52<fireonlive>arkiver: was issuu going to be turned into a long-term project?
03:50:16<fireonlive>ah it's off of the tracker now
03:50:52<fireonlive>also oops, wrong channel
03:52:22<thuban>speaking of long-term projects, may i ask again about getting googlecrash back up?
03:52:24<@JAA>fireonlive, pokechu22: Example with display title: https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/Codearchiver
03:52:52<fireonlive>ah :D
03:52:52<@arkiver>fireonlive: likely not no
03:52:54<@JAA>No way to avoid the capital letter in the URL though.
03:52:57<fireonlive>doesn't fix the url, but nicer
03:53:05<fireonlive>arkiver: ah ok! sounds good
03:53:32<@arkiver>thuban: do we have examples you would want to run through?
03:54:28<thuban>not offhand, but i could get some later today
03:54:28<nicolas17>I think lowercase initial letters can be done with a mediawiki configuration change, like Wiktionary, but it's probably not worth it, as it makes /codearchiver and /Codearchiver different pages
03:54:30<TheTechRobo>This is a very minor issue, but currently the wording of "Current Running Warrior Project" on the wiki page (https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/Template:CurrentWarrior) is annoying to me - it implies that the others are paused
03:54:50<@arkiver>thuban: i'm a little worried about size. it's also not easily downloadable from the Wayback Machine i believe
03:55:11<fireonlive>JAA: https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/User:FireonLive < that category though
03:55:21nicolas17 prepares the bonk stick
03:56:28@JAA adds [[Category:Permanently_horny_users]] to that page.
03:56:42<fireonlive>xD
03:56:45<thuban>arkiver: i'm unclear about wbm playback myself, but see previous discussion in this channel
03:56:50<h2ibot>FireonLive edited Current Projects (-220, remove Issuu, finished long ago; move…): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=51236&oldid=51234
03:56:52<TheTechRobo>JAA: lmfao
03:58:14<thuban>as for size, we could skip dedicated discovery and just do manual queueing? (and/or backfeed from #//, but that might be too big all on its own)
04:00:29<TheTechRobo>Yeah manual queuing would be great
04:01:16<fireonlive>TheTechRobo: you run the warrior yeah?
04:01:28<TheTechRobo>fireonlive: ish, why?
04:01:40<fireonlive>can you shoot me a screenshot of the pick a project page
04:02:13<TheTechRobo>https://lounge.thetechrobo.ca/uploads/a682453523498797/image.png
04:02:17<TheTechRobo>er put a bit too much on the bottom
04:02:22<fireonlive>thanks
04:02:51<h2ibot>FireonLive edited Template:CurrentWarrior (-11, align wording with warrior wording): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=51237&oldid=46438
04:03:12<TheTechRobo>fireonlive: thanks
04:03:15<fireonlive>=]
04:03:53<TheTechRobo>Is it canonically ArchiveTeam or Archive Team?
04:04:11<thuban>i've often wondered that myself
04:04:19<fireonlive>not sure
04:04:19<@JAA>So have I.
04:04:28<fireonlive>i like the one word version
04:04:31<thuban>unfortunately there doesn't seem to be an authoritative answer
04:04:56<TheTechRobo>The main page has both. lol
04:05:04<@JAA>Well, there's no real authority here, so getting an authoritative answer is tricky... :-P
04:05:09<fireonlive>if you look at the 2009 'logo'
04:05:10<fireonlive>https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/File:Archiveteam.jpg
04:05:11<joepie91|m>always keep 'em on their toes
04:05:15<@JAA>I personally use ArchiveTeam.
04:05:21<fireonlive>has a space, and the desc. does too
04:05:28<joepie91|m>I also use ArchiveTeam
04:05:30<fireonlive>and you can see the uploader there
04:05:32<fireonlive>ye me too
04:05:42<thuban>a lot of the older stuff, news coverage, etc, uses "Archive Team", but i've always preferred "ArchiveTeam" as it's more clearly a proper noun
04:05:56<TheTechRobo>yeah "Archive Team" sounds way too generic IMO
04:06:03<TheTechRobo>like you're describing it rather than naming it
04:06:05<fireonlive>so do our topics in -bs and -dev
04:06:08<@JAA>Yeah, marginally less risk of confusion with IA.
04:06:09<fireonlive>(but not #archiveteam)
04:06:16<fireonlive>:D
04:06:20<@JAA>That's because I set those, I think.
04:06:27<fireonlive>ah :)
04:06:28<@JAA>Whereas the #archiveteam topic is ancient.
04:06:42<@JAA>-ot didn't exist when I showed up here, and I think -bs had a different topic.
04:06:54<TheTechRobo>Right, didn't -bs used to be -ot?
04:06:56<fireonlive>ye "Archive Team: We're not archive.org" sounds like something from early days
04:07:42<@JAA>TheTechRobo: Very originally yes, I've been told. By the time I joined, it was already the separation we have today, more or less.
04:07:45<fireonlive>the press seems to favour two word variant
04:07:54<fireonlive>looking at https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/In_The_Media
04:08:23<TheTechRobo>that's probably because that's what the opening paragraph in the main page says
04:08:24<fireonlive>i'm sure they went to our frontpage though for that :p
04:08:26<fireonlive>ye
04:09:19<fireonlive>according to wiki.*'s <title> we're "Archiveteam"
04:09:23<fireonlive>:D
04:09:49<TheTechRobo>so current contenders:
04:09:51<TheTechRobo>- Archive Team
04:09:53<TheTechRobo>- ArchiveTeam
04:09:54<TheTechRobo>-Archiveteam
04:10:17<@arkiver>not Archiveteam
04:10:21<fireonlive>- dick drawn on ballot/wasted vote
04:10:27<@arkiver>i guess we'll claims both Archive Team and ArchiveTeam
04:10:29<fireonlive>(it seems that always happens)
04:10:39<@arkiver>it's spread out across a ton of articles already
04:10:41<@arkiver>both versions
04:10:51<@arkiver>i usually use Archive Team thouhg
04:10:57<fireonlive>we could prefer one in our 'style guide' i suppose
04:10:58<TheTechRobo>arkiver: Right, but we should probably pick one for e.g. Warrior UI?
04:11:01<TheTechRobo>yeah
04:11:07<@arkiver>maybe
04:11:17<fireonlive>hm
04:11:22<@arkiver>what triggered this discussion?
04:11:23<TheTechRobo>maybe ArchiveTeam could be informal and Archive Team could be press? idk
04:11:29<TheTechRobo>arkiver: me asking :P
04:11:32<@arkiver>ah :P
04:11:39<@arkiver>well let's not make major changes yet
04:11:43<TheTechRobo>yeah
04:12:19<fireonlive>but i already have 300 wiki edits in queue
04:12:21<fireonlive>:P
04:12:29<fireonlive>jkjk
04:15:00<@JAA>I was going to say <amateur.png>, but it turns out my mass IRC edit two years ago was only ~330 edits: https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Special:Contributions/JustAnotherArchivist&offset=20211031191500&limit=350&target=JustAnotherArchivist
04:15:23<fireonlive>:P
04:15:35<fireonlive>lordy lordy
04:15:57<@JAA>Yeah, that was fun.
04:16:04<@JAA>Much of it was automated, plus some manual checking.
04:16:18<fireonlive>:)
04:16:37<fireonlive>https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/List_of_lost_online_videos < that's a hard list to maintain
04:16:47<fireonlive>i think wikipedia probably has a term for it
04:18:43<fireonlive>hmmm. re: that page deletion proposal forever ago; i guess an !ao of a couple links followed by deletion could work; instead of the "namespace of wikipages locked in time that we are also scared to look at"
04:20:20<joepie91|m>I assume people here are already aware but Kissinger is dead
04:20:32<joepie91|m>don't know if that implies any archival work
04:21:52<@JAA>I archived the website, and I'm looking into throwing interviews etc. into #down-the-tube. Otherwise, probably not a whole lot.
04:22:33<@JAA>By the way, 'archiveteam' reference: https://nitter.net/textfiles/status/1156646412756627456
04:23:06<@JAA>:-P
04:23:07<fireonlive>ooh
04:23:42<@JAA>There are a few more tweets, but there are plenty more with 'Archive Team'.
04:24:54<fireonlive>wikimedia template to $rand between the two every time it's mentioned?
04:24:58<fireonlive>:p
04:25:57@JAA slaps fireonlive around a bit with a large trout
04:26:02<fireonlive>xD
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04:27:49<pabs>joepie91|m: AB has a job for www, not sure if anyone did subdomain enumeration
04:28:15pabs votes ArchiveTeam
04:28:27fireonlive votes ArchiveTeam
04:28:39<pabs>yay nitter.net unbanned me
04:30:03<@JAA>The https://www.henryakissinger.com/ AB job is incomplete due to PerimeterX 403s. I grabbed a separate copy from a residential IP with grab-site.
04:31:36<fireonlive>https://strawpoll.com/BJnX8W7mPnv vote now!
04:31:50fireonlive waits for JAA to inform of the JS-disabled status
04:32:24<fireonlive>(informal non-binding poll)
04:32:31<fireonlive>(does not hold up in AT-core court)
04:32:49<joepie91|m>ah yes, governance(tm)
04:32:54<pabs>anyone know the status of archiving for Twitter and Facebook? does nitter work? any particular instance?
04:32:54<fireonlive>:3
04:33:25<fireonlive>pabs: nitter for twitter, can use a special instance; facebook.. not sure
04:36:36<@JAA>I'm beginning to repeat myself, but...
04:36:38@JAA slaps fireonlive around a bit with a large trout
04:37:17<@JAA>pabs: Facebook is hell and virtually impossible, sadly, especially since the redesign.
04:37:30<@JAA>Or well, nothing is impossible, but no tooling exists.
04:37:31<fireonlive>😅
04:37:38<fireonlive>hmm, did they kill off mbasic
04:37:41<@JAA>snscrape's Facebook module has been broken for a long time.
04:37:53<fireonlive>ah, login wall
04:38:07<fireonlive>(https://mbasic.facebook.com/l)
04:38:19<fireonlive>(-l)
04:40:46<fireonlive>i was a good boy and set the options choices to random :3
04:40:51<fireonlive>so theres no bias ™
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06:55:27<@JAA>m.facebook.com still exists, but you don't get far there.
07:29:49<@JAA>Sanqui: I'm only about two thirds done (635 of 930), but I'll send you what I got so far since there's not too much time left. The extraction is somewhat incomplete because there's still no decent WARC tooling and mine broke on a few WARCs. In order to ensure I didn't have to download anything again due to incomplete extraction, I went with a much simpler `grep -Fai -e ulozto.cz -e uloz.to`, so it
07:29:55<@JAA>contains the surrounding HTML, not just the Uloz URLs. After filtering out dupes (mostly from uloz.to pages themselves), here's the 33k results so far: https://transfer.archivete.am/mUisN/webzdarma-uloz-partial.zst
07:29:56<eggdrop>inline (for browser viewing): https://transfer.archivete.am/inline/mUisN/webzdarma-uloz-partial.zst
07:30:06<@JAA>Bad bot
07:30:09<@JAA>:-)
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07:57:21<fireonlive>i guess you can’t inline a .zst file haha
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08:02:44<that_lurker>well you can, but not with the expected outcome
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08:17:01<fireonlive>JAA: https://transfer.archivete.am/mUisN/webzdarma-uloz-partial.zst
08:17:36<@JAA>Excluded URLs ending with .zst?
08:21:59<@Sanqui>JAA: Awesome, thank you, I expect we'll have our hands full with this but who knows
08:22:01<project10>Good bot!
08:23:48<fireonlive>,, string cat $ATTExcludedExtensions
08:23:48<eggdrop>ok: *.zst *.gz *.tar.gz *.tar *.tar.xz -0ms-
08:23:52<fireonlive>JAA: indeed :)
08:24:27<@JAA>:-)
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11:28:28<supercar99>Noob here. Why isn't frogger/blogger the current active project? Isn't it more "urgent" than telegram?
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11:37:32<flashfire42|m><supercar99> "Noob here. Why isn't frogger/..." <- Cause we already at capacity for it I think and telegram needs love too I guess
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11:39:06<imer>Yeah, not able to ingest data fast enough as is, don't need more workers on it :)
11:40:06<flashfire42|m>I think the claims is so high in hopes that when the deadline hits there will still be a bunch of downloaded stuff waiting to upload
11:42:25<supercar99>Got it, thank you! Initally set warrior to run on blogger but didn't understand why it kept getting stuck (really stuck, warrior dashboard wouldn't even load). Set to the current project (i'll leave it there) and everything went back to smooth!
11:42:54<flashfire42|m>Yeah we appreciate the workers no matter what.
11:43:10<flashfire42|m>Telegram does have a giant backlog too so
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12:20:16<qwertyasdfuiopghjkl>( replying to https://hackint.logs.kiska.pw/archiveteam-bs/20231130#c392586 ) fireonlive: I'm guessing you need to include the "User:" part in the displaytitle thing for it to work.
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19:17:03<fireonlive>ohh maybe!
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20:45:47<Pedrosso>Star Trek related sites:
20:45:48<Pedrosso>https://transfer.archivete.am/Y13GB/ex-astris-scientia.TXT comes from https://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/misc/statistics.htm
20:45:48<Pedrosso>https://transfer.archivete.am/16ikxC/ex-astaris-scientia.org-links.htm.txt comes from https://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/links.htm
20:45:48<eggdrop>inline (for browser viewing): https://transfer.archivete.am/inline/Y13GB/ex-astris-scientia.TXT
20:46:21<Pedrosso>Hehe, too speedy. Inline for the 2nd one: https://transfer.archivete.am/inline/16ikxC/ex-astaris-scientia.org-links.htm.txt
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21:29:31<Pedrosso>https://transfer.archivete.am/m2r00/ex-astris-scientia%20a_few_others.txt
21:29:31<eggdrop>inline (for browser viewing): https://transfer.archivete.am/inline/m2r00/ex-astris-scientia%20a_few_others.txt
21:29:33<Pedrosso>https://transfer.archivete.am/Y8pl8/ex-astris-scientia.org-links-main.cgi-outlinks.txt from https://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/links/main.cgi excluding youtube links
21:38:00<Pedrosso>has the memory-alpha, memory-beta, memory-gamma, and memory-delta wikis been saved?
21:38:03<Pedrosso>have*
21:38:12<Pedrosso>I'll take it to #wikiteam -
21:59:09<Pedrosso>oh, and I've tried to clean up the https://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/links.htm https://transfer.archivete.am/Vv7vN/ex-astaris-scientia.org-links.htm_cleaned.txt
21:59:10<eggdrop>inline (for browser viewing): https://transfer.archivete.am/inline/Vv7vN/ex-astaris-scientia.org-links.htm_cleaned.txt
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22:03:19<Pedrosso>and from https://www.angelfire.com/ns/firepit/msfm/links.htm in the cleanup I got these: https://transfer.archivete.am/Vv7vN/ex-astaris-scientia.org-links.htm_cleaned.txt
22:03:20<eggdrop>inline (for browser viewing): https://transfer.archivete.am/inline/Vv7vN/ex-astaris-scientia.org-links.htm_cleaned.txt
22:06:13<nulldata>https://www.theverge.com/2023/11/29/23981363/mailchimp-shutting-down-tinyletter
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22:10:51<Pedrosso>Whops, my last sentence was wrong. I got these https://transfer.archivete.am/IvUrS/estar_trek%20extras.txt from https://www.angelfire.com/ns/firepit/msfm/links.htm
22:10:51<eggdrop>inline (for browser viewing): https://transfer.archivete.am/inline/IvUrS/estar_trek%20extras.txt
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22:11:14<Lord_Nightmare>https://twitter.com/jiromifune/status/1730157521862902037 is a problem, I have no idea how that can be archived except manually
22:11:14<eggdrop>nitter: https://nitter.net/jiromifune/status/1730157521862902037
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23:47:14<Pedrosso>can't wait for smell-o-vision and all the smells to archive, haha
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23:49:00<project10>🤮
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23:59:28<pabs>Lord_Nightmare: AT has a nitter instance we can AB. I threw it in the queue just now

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