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| 00:57:37 | <fireonlive> | "Replit permanently moves to paid hosting after 7 years of free service" https://noreplit.com https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37950534 |
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| 01:00:40 | <fireonlive> | the discord server mentioned on noreplit seems to be gone: https://replit.com/discord |
| 01:00:52 | <fireonlive> | but i have like; this weird dejavu that we archived their discord |
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| 01:01:57 | <fireonlive> | grep of irc logs says no at least |
| 01:06:34 | <project10> | https://irc.project10.net/uploads/40ed40d9ca8e16ba/no.jpg |
| 01:07:22 | <fireonlive> | :3 |
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| 01:17:14 | <fireonlive> | oh hello |
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| 01:17:45 | <nicolas17> | wtf is happening |
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| 01:17:53 | <nicolas17> | was there a netsplit? |
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| 01:18:06 | <fireonlive> | looks like a bunch of people just all quit at once |
| 01:18:24 | <flashfire42> | God damn netsplits |
| 01:18:26 | <@JAA> | Network weather |
| 01:18:38 | <fireonlive> | some citing a 'ping timeout' or 'no ping reply' (but not the typical ircd ping timeout?) |
| 01:18:47 | <pabs> | my ping time went to infinite, so I reconnected |
| 01:18:50 | <TheTechRobo> | Yeah, my client got a ping timeout. |
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| 01:19:03 | <@JAA> | Some have proper quits though, so... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ |
| 01:19:09 | <fireonlive> | pabs: welcome back bonedaddy :) |
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| 01:19:41 | <@JAA> | My chaostal client is fine. |
| 01:19:51 | <fireonlive> | hmm weird |
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| 01:20:38 | <TheTechRobo> | I got a couple of EHOSTUNREACH while reconnecting, but I'm not sure if that's related |
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| 01:21:55 | <fireonlive> | ah there's the proper ircd ping timeout :) |
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| 01:43:01 | <audrooku|m> | https://transfer.archivete.am/2nkrC/audrooku-urls-1.txt |
| 01:43:01 | <audrooku|m> | could someone kindly run this through archivebot for me? :-) |
| 01:44:27 | <@JAA> | Awful filename for an AB job, but we could just grab all of https://developers.soundcloud.com/ again. It's been a few years since the last run. |
| 01:46:08 | <fireonlive> | does https://www.thoughtworks.com/insights/blog/bff-soundcloud link from developers? |
| 01:50:19 | <@JAA> | If not, it was archived at least once by AB and a couple dozen times in total. |
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| 01:53:44 | <fireonlive> | ah oki |
| 01:53:50 | <fireonlive> | =] |
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| 02:36:51 | <audrooku|m> | > Awful filename for an AB job |
| 02:36:51 | <audrooku|m> | What would be the preferred naming schema? |
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| 03:08:10 | <pokechu22> | audrooku|m: generally it's useful to mention the target site (in this case developers.soundcloud.com) so that searching for that on https://archive.fart.website/archivebot/viewer/ also brings up the list |
| 03:08:32 | <pokechu22> | e.g. I've done several like this: https://archive.fart.website/archivebot/viewer/?q=libraries.minecraft.net |
| 03:08:59 | <audrooku|m> | Gotcha, wasn't aware that viewer existed |
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| 10:21:58 | <immibis> | i know there's a github project, but I don't see the channel. You may archive https://github.com/immibis/ before I ask github to delete it under GDPR. |
| 10:23:24 | <katia> | #codearchiver i think |
| 10:23:40 | <katia> | or #gitgud immibis not sure |
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| 14:08:32 | <nulldata> | https://www.theverge.com/2023/10/19/23924549/jon-stewart-apple-ai-china-cancel |
| 14:08:50 | <nulldata> | Might be good to grab socials and the podcast for the show |
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| 16:12:37 | <h2ibot> | Nano412510 edited Alive... OR ARE THEY (+0, /* Endangered */): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=51014&oldid=51012 |
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| 16:32:23 | <ScenarioPlanet> | Hello. May I ask, how can I create a WARC from a list of file links with wget on Windows? (private WARC, not for uploading to the IA) What options should I use? |
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| 16:39:26 | <@JAA> | ScenarioPlanet: Firstly, upstream wget writes WARCs that most tools can't read correctly. I'd recommend using either wget-at or an older version of upstream wget (1.19.x or older IIRC). As for options, it depends. --input-file and --warc-file are the obvious ones. If these links are HTML pages, you probably want to use --page-requisites as well. Beyond that, you might need a different user agent, |
| 16:39:32 | <@JAA> | cookies, etc., which strongly depends on what you're retrieving. |
| 16:40:45 | <ScenarioPlanet> | The links are (Discord) files. Also, does wget-at work on Windows? |
| 16:41:05 | <@JAA> | Maybe, depending on your pain tolerance. |
| 16:41:30 | <ScenarioPlanet> | Understandable |
| 16:42:48 | <ScenarioPlanet> | Also, I remember there was an option to prevent it from downloading junk (-o NUL?), does wget-at need this too? |
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| 16:44:04 | <@JAA> | Right, --delete-after |
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| 16:46:19 | <@JAA> | You might also want to consider using grab-site instead. |
| 16:48:28 | <ScenarioPlanet> | The problem here, I can't put both .warc and junk to my hdd, I don't have enough of space. |
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| 17:09:21 | <ScenarioPlanet> | Also, is the reason of generating unreadable WARCs known? |
| 17:10:04 | <@JAA> | Yes, wget is the only software that inserts angle brackets around the WARC-Target-URI value. |
| 17:10:30 | <@JAA> | It's been reported to them years ago, and the cleanest fix (bump to WARC/1.1) was proposed a long time ago, too. |
| 17:11:06 | <@JAA> | Technically, the WARC/1.0 spec requires those angle brackets in its grammar, but the examples in the spec don't have them, and no other implementation is known to use them. |
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| 17:11:26 | <@JAA> | WARC/1.1 was modified to no longer require them because that's what everyone except wget 1.20+ was doing anyway. |
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| 17:11:48 | <@JAA> | Also: https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/The_WARC_Ecosystem#Tools |
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| 17:40:12 | <ScenarioPlanet> | Another problem with wget 1.19.1: it doesn't write binary files into .warc properly. Downloaded files are OK, but in .warc they seem to be stripped (like, only "‰PNG" for pngs). |
| 17:40:35 | <@JAA> | That doesn't sound right. |
| 17:40:59 | <ScenarioPlanet> | wget -U "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/117.0.0.0 Safari/537.36 OPR/103.0.0.0" --warc-cdx --warc-file="warcname" --wait 0.2 --waitretry 5 --timeout 60 --tries 3 -i *list* --no-cookies --restrict-file-names=windows |
| 17:42:24 | <@JAA> | Can you run that on https://transfer.archivete.am/inline/bG4mu/aatt.png and upload the resulting WARC to https://transfer.archivete.am/? |
| 17:43:25 | <@JAA> | I suspect it's an issue in whatever software you're using to look at the WARC, not wget or the WARC itself. |
| 17:43:51 | <@JAA> | But I only have a much older wget version handy right now. |
| 17:44:00 | <@JAA> | (Or newer) |
| 17:45:40 | <ScenarioPlanet> | https://transfer.archivete.am/d89Tw/test%20aatt.warc.gz |
| 17:45:50 | <ScenarioPlanet> | I mean, it's literally 3kb |
| 17:46:15 | <@JAA> | Weird |
| 17:46:27 | <@JAA> | And it has the correct 'Content-Length: 15896' header, too... |
| 17:46:40 | <@arkiver> | `mingw32` ? |
| 17:46:54 | <@arkiver> | software: Wget/1.19.1 (mingw32) |
| 17:46:55 | <@arkiver> | what is that |
| 17:47:28 | <@JAA> | MinGW aka GCC & Co. for Windows |
| 17:49:16 | <@arkiver> | ScenarioPlanet: that indeed does not look good |
| 17:49:23 | <@arkiver> | seems like an odd problem for 1.19.1 |
| 17:49:26 | <@JAA> | Where did you get wget from? |
| 17:49:47 | <@arkiver> | I suspect it is something with this build or the OS/context |
| 17:52:47 | <ScenarioPlanet> | arkiver: https://eternallybored.org/misc/wget/ |
| 17:53:24 | <@arkiver> | JAA: ^ |
| 17:54:13 | <ScenarioPlanet> | Same for 1.19.2 |
| 17:54:30 | <ScenarioPlanet> | And that was for 1.17 too |
| 17:54:52 | <@arkiver> | ScenarioPlanet: what if you don't use --restrict-file-names=windows ? |
| 17:55:05 | <ScenarioPlanet> | Same |
| 17:55:55 | <@arkiver> | https://eternallybored.org/misc/wget/src/wget-1.21-2gb-win.patch is a patch i see |
| 17:56:23 | <@arkiver> | and https://eternallybored.org/misc/wget/src/wget-openssl-init.patch |
| 17:57:01 | <@JAA> | Could you try with the most recent version, 1.21.4? |
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| 17:58:48 | <ScenarioPlanet> | Same again |
| 17:58:55 | <@JAA> | Hmm |
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| 17:59:19 | <ScenarioPlanet> | Are there any other builds for Winx64? |
| 18:00:17 | <@arkiver> | i would advise to start experimenting with Debian (linux) if you're serious about all this |
| 18:00:21 | <@JAA> | Not sure. Those are the ones usually recommended, although they're unofficial. |
| 18:00:33 | <@JAA> | GNU doesn't officially support Windows for what should be fairly obvious reasons. |
| 18:01:04 | <@JAA> | I'll mention this in their IRC channel though just so they're aware of it. |
| 18:01:12 | <@JAA> | (That's #wget on Libera.) |
| 18:04:57 | <@JAA> | ScenarioPlanet: Which Windows version? |
| 18:05:16 | <ScenarioPlanet> | 10 22h2 |
| 18:06:10 | <ScenarioPlanet> | What's about using Heritrix3 for that? Is that a good idea? |
| 18:07:57 | <appledash> | If you're on Windows 10 why not just use WSL |
| 18:22:24 | <imer> | ^ was going to mention WSL as well, way less painful |
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| 19:01:30 | <ScenarioPlanet> | Thank you appledash and imer, WSL is the tool I've searched for |
| 19:02:07 | <ScenarioPlanet> | And JAA & arkiver for trying to help me with that wget build, thank you too |
| 19:06:13 | <h2ibot> | JustAnotherArchivist edited The WARC Ecosystem (+265, /* Tools */ Add Windows wget build bugs): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=51015&oldid=50758 |
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| 19:13:42 | <ScenarioPlanet> | May I also ask about building of wget-at? automake gives me some "build-aux/git-version-gen: not found" errors and exits with "automake: error: cannot open < lib/gnulib.mk: No such file or directory" |
| 19:36:46 | | @JAA hasn't actually built wget-at before. |
| 19:36:57 | <@JAA> | I just used the container image when I needed it. |
| 19:37:50 | <@JAA> | I'd start by looking at the Dockerfile. |
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| 20:02:31 | <nulldata> | https://odysee.com/@lbry:3f/theendoflbryinc:d |
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