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01:24:00<audrooku|m>Hi, would it be possible to have this site crawled? <https://www.sphere.bc.ca/oldsite/index.html>
01:24:14<audrooku|m>they are going out of business, their site has lots of photos and datasheets
01:25:54<fireonlive>" The site will be slimmed down in the coming weeks consisting of primarily the Stuff Page and a main announcement page." :(
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01:36:51<fireonlive>I guess https://www.sphere.bc.ca/ would cover oldsite as well
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01:44:19<@JAA>audrooku|m: I've started an ArchiveBot job for the entire domain.
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01:50:56<h2ibot>JustAnotherArchivist edited Template:Datetime (+27, <includeonly>): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=50677&oldid=50676
01:51:01<@JAA>fireonlive: Template looks good, thanks!
01:51:15<@JAA>Just added some magic to prevent its default expansion on the template page.
01:51:28<@JAA>Also yes, MediaWiki syntax is special.
01:52:04<fireonlive>^_^
01:52:07<fireonlive>thanks :)
01:52:55<@JAA>Now to edit all existing pages. lol
01:52:56<h2ibot>Skreutzer edited JoshWho TV (+180): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=50678&oldid=50659
01:52:57<h2ibot>Skreutzer edited Corder (+61): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=50679&oldid=50660
01:52:58<h2ibot>Skreutzer edited Category talk:Video hosting (+2378): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=50680&oldid=38490
01:52:59<fireonlive>haha yes
01:52:59<h2ibot>Myusernameisanything edited URLTeam (+196, /* Alive */ url.zip): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=50681&oldid=50585
01:53:31<@JAA>I've done some of that before to update all the IRC channel references when we moved from EFnet to here. A lot of fun...
01:53:41<fireonlive>ah right! >_<
01:54:15<@JAA>At least that was somewhat automatable. Dates are hell.
01:54:32<fireonlive>indeed. i imagine a slow burn approach is better
01:54:42<fireonlive>use going forward, high traffic pages/as we see them
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01:54:54<@JAA>Actually, it was when I changed the Template:IRC to default to hackint when everything needed updating, not on migration itself.
01:55:19<fireonlive>ohh
01:56:52<fireonlive>https://mkx9delh5a.execute-api.ca-central-1.amazonaws.com/uploads/8c0cf30d97de2779/image.png
01:56:55<fireonlive>looks like a party!
02:02:50<@JAA>:-)
02:04:09<@JAA>Most of it was done with some fun scripts.
02:05:18<@JAA>A bit of tmux magic to cycle through pages and edit them with nano since patterns weren't reliable enough.
02:05:23<@JAA>And then a script to submit all the edits.
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02:06:51<DigitalDragons>Are all the archivebot/ pages on the wiki still used?
02:07:19<fireonlive>nice ^_^
02:09:03<@JAA>DigitalDragons: No, the bot behind that has been dead for years by now. I have a partial replacement (will be a separate website but be able to process lists from wiki pages), but it got stalled and I haven't worked on it in some time now.
02:10:27<@JAA>Editing the .../list pages is fine though; those will eventually be used for that (with changes in formatting). The non-/list pages will just be discarded at that time.
02:11:21<fireonlive>there is a bunch of cruft other places as well but that tends to happen
02:12:05<fireonlive>or stuff that didnt pan out/probably isnt in scope
02:13:07<fireonlive>sometimes i have fun clicking on https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/Special:Random
02:13:09<fireonlive>:3
02:13:17<@JAA>:-)
02:14:16<DigitalDragons>that's how I do my editing
02:14:28<DigitalDragons>just spamming random until I find a problem
02:14:39<@JAA>lol
02:15:35<fireonlive>:P
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02:16:56<@JAA>You can do some fun maths to calculate how many times you need to hit Special:Random until you've seen every page on the wiki.
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02:20:26<fireonlive>https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/Eroshare < "formerly #nofap (on EFnet)" hahahaha
02:21:17<DigitalDragons>Who needs to do the math when someone did all the hard work for us? https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/Collecting_items_randomly
02:22:18<@JAA>> Don't ask me to prove this mathematically.
02:22:20<@JAA>Pfff
02:22:41<fireonlive>DigitalDragons: https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/19th_century
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02:24:18<fireonlive>lol @ don't ask
02:28:37<fireonlive>here's a fun one too: https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/Special:WantedPages
02:28:56<fireonlive>665 dead/red links to ArXiv‏‎ and IBM for example
02:30:03<@JAA>Almost all of those come from the navbox template.
02:30:10<@JAA>I never liked that one very much.
02:30:43<fireonlive>ah yes just saw that
02:31:07<fireonlive>yeah, not a huge fan of the navbox
02:32:57<fireonlive>is 'Emijrp' still around?
02:35:23<fireonlive>seems last contribution was in 2017 to https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/Me_at_the_zoo
02:35:59<@JAA>No, hasn't been around in a couple years now. They ran the ArchiveBot/* bot.
02:37:11<fireonlive>ahh
02:37:25<fireonlive>oops
02:37:32<fireonlive>👀
02:38:05<h2ibot>FireonLive edited Template:Navigation box (-17078, not maintained, lots of 'red links', hard to…): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=50682&oldid=50099
02:38:20<fireonlive>your honour that was a misclick if anyone asks
02:39:26<@JAA>I'd like to see us use categories more.
02:39:55<fireonlive>indeed
02:40:17<fireonlive>projects could be a link to various categories .... or can we include stuff inside categories somehow idk
02:40:21<@JAA>I guess the navbox was 'fine' in the early days, but now it's just an opinionated mess because it'd get way too large if everything was included there.
02:40:22<fireonlive>it's currently very very unmaintained
02:40:46<fireonlive>inside categories on the page itself (or pull from the infoboxes we use)
02:40:56<@JAA>So there's some editorial choice of which targets 'deserve' to be in the navbox.
02:41:09<fireonlive>ah yes
02:41:39<fireonlive>last thing we need is more room for infighting lol
02:41:44<@JAA>For categories, we just put [[Category:X]] at the bottom of a wiki page, and it gets added to that category.
02:41:52<fireonlive>'why X over Y!'
02:42:21<@JAA>Creating an actual category page isn't strictly necessary, but adding a little description there isn't necessarily a bad idea.
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02:42:24<fireonlive>ah yes like the Deleteme category :3
02:43:10<fireonlive>oh it's a template as well; https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/Template:Delete
02:43:25<fireonlive>but yeah agreed there
02:44:19<fireonlive>when someone .. updates the mediawiki .. wouldn't mind /index.php/ being replaced while they're there :p
02:45:52<@JAA>Does a category for user-generated content make sense? Most archival targets with a wiki page have UGC anyway.
02:46:24<@JAA>Not sure we can get rid of it, but replacing it with /wiki/ or something would be good, yeah.
02:47:03<fireonlive>ye /wiki/ would work
02:47:29<fireonlive>on UGC i think that's most of our sites
02:47:56<fireonlive>if we really wanted to track that we could track the inverse
02:48:07<h2ibot>JustAnotherArchivist edited Gfycat (+27, Categorise): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=50683&oldid=50668
02:48:11<fireonlive>but even something like $newsWebsite has comment sections i suppos
02:48:14<fireonlive>suppose*
02:48:21<fireonlive>increasingly less common, but yeah
02:49:38<fireonlive>https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/Special:Categories and https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/Special:WantedCategories seem to list the categories for those following along
02:49:59<fireonlive>not sure oh ok
02:50:05<fireonlive>oops
02:50:36<fireonlive>the latter is just a subset of Categories - those w/o a 'page' (any text on them explaining the category)
02:50:40<fireonlive>TIL :3
02:51:05<@JAA>Yep
02:51:31<@JAA>The categories exist, the category pages list the pages in that category, just the explainer is missing and the category link is red.
02:51:34<fireonlive>i've installed MediaWiki once or twice way back when but didn't get too involved
02:51:55<fireonlive>ah
02:52:45<fireonlive>i think this was a sorta ArchiveBot/ one: https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/Deaths_by_year
02:53:04<fireonlive>https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/Lulz < ah yes
02:54:22<fireonlive>i wouldn't necessarily advise visiting that particular sub-board or whatever the proper term is lol
02:55:08<@JAA>Yeah, deaths/disestablishments was generated from Wiki(Something) by a bot. Don't remember whether it was Wikipedia or Wikidata.
02:55:21<@JAA>Also by emijrp, also no longer operational.
02:57:38<audrooku|m>JAA: thank you very much
02:57:48<audrooku|m>(re: adding sphere to AB)
02:58:07<fireonlive>ah ye
02:58:57<fireonlive>an 'Obsolete' namespace was proposed to move/make things read-only, but idk if some things should just be pruned or what
03:13:11<h2ibot>FireonLive edited 2018-10-13 (+25, categorize): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=50684&oldid=31435
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03:45:17<h2ibot>FireonLive edited Current Projects (+161, datetime-ify): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=50685&oldid=50670
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04:28:54<fireonlive>that_lurker: https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/File:Jasonappeal.png
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04:41:29<h2ibot>FireonLive edited In The Media (+1124, datetime-ify; remove navigation box template): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=50686&oldid=50297
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04:46:45<fireonlive>https://thepiratebay.org/description.php?id=6353395 < interesting :3
04:48:17<fireonlive>(https://archive.org/details/archiveteam-geocities)
04:49:24<thuban>iirc there was some question of whether the geocities torrent is actually functional--someone came in here a while back having extended trouble with it
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04:50:02<fireonlive>ahh
04:50:08<fireonlive>apparently there's a patched and non-patched version
04:50:52<fireonlive>https://web.archive.org/web/20110924161549/http://www.archiveteam.org/archives/geocitiespatch/README.txt
04:51:16<thuban>it was the patched one that was problematic
04:51:19<fireonlive>ahh ok
04:52:01<fireonlive>wonder if that collection has it all..it appears to be similar in size: 657.4GB
04:52:55<thuban>https://hackint.logs.kiska.pw/archiveteam-ot/20220307 i'm not sure whether there was actually a problem or this guy was just really confused
04:54:01<fireonlive>"$ tar xf > /h..." hm yeah
04:54:55<fireonlive>looks like i missed that by over two months lucky me :D
04:55:58<thuban>oh, i guess everything was fine and someone helped him work it out eventually
04:56:01<fireonlive>huh yeah
04:58:03<fireonlive>https://www.youtube.com/@nirv/videos via https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RS0fCNo_4Qc looks like he kept on learning at least
05:00:32<h2ibot>JAABot edited Main Page/In The Media (+130): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=50687&oldid=50299
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05:55:09<flashfire42>Ok I queued all the telegram channels from the wiki is it time to do youtube videos?
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06:11:57<fireonlive>if they fall within scope ™
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06:47:20<erkinalp>any update on IA uploads?
06:47:30<erkinalp>still the same bottleneck?
07:01:57<h2ibot>Yts98 edited PIXNET (+561, Update site structure): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=50688&oldid=50628
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07:33:56<Carnildo>I was there watching as MediaWiki syntax was created. It wasn't so much "designed" as "evolved".
07:34:33<Carnildo>A fair chunk of it comes from the developers going "Oh crap, the users have figured out how to use template inclusion to build a programming language, and it's killing the servers."
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08:14:02<pabs>https://techcrunch.com/2023/08/31/malwarebytes-layoffs-business-split/
08:33:19<vokunal|m>Malwarebytes is both nice to have, and terrible to have. For a solid few years, I actually downloaded it, installed it, scanned what I was going to scan, and then un-installed it, every time I downloaded something remotely sketchy. All due to its persistent pop up ads for buying it. It's quieted down now, and I'm not sure why, but I haven't seen a notification from it in a long time
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10:01:56<ShakespeareFan00>Hi.
10:02:04<imer>Hi!
10:02:09<ShakespeareFan00>Are there any people here that speak Russian ?
10:02:54<imer>Might have to stick around for a while for that one, I wouldn't know anyone off the top of my head, but that means nothing :)
10:03:21<imer>Might help to add why you're asking though
10:03:22<ShakespeareFan00>It was noted on the Wikimedia Discord that Russia had recently announced it was going to start blocking more types of site including those with LGBT related content.
10:04:22<ShakespeareFan00>I don't speak, read or write Russian, but figured that someone that did may wish to archive Russian language LGBT information before it gets taken down by the regime ?
10:05:55<ShakespeareFan00>As I don't read, write or speak Russian myself, it would need an archivist with the requisite language skills.
10:06:33<ShakespeareFan00>Anyway that was why I asking :)
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14:38:34<h2ibot>Exorcism uploaded File:Cliptube-screenshot.png: https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?title=File%3ACliptube-screenshot.png
14:39:34<h2ibot>Exorcism created ClipTube (+305, Created page with "{{Infobox project | image =…): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?title=ClipTube
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16:19:29<fireonlive>Carnildo: ahhh that makes sense… and lmao xD
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17:21:48<Barto>so nitter.net and nitter.cz seem to cause some problems archiving some accounts. Any other instance that we can use? I wanna do 36 accounts :-|
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17:37:06<bladem>generate a bunch of guest tokens and spin up your own instance probably; I think nitter.net is IP banning people for scraping now
17:42:00<Barto>eh
17:42:53<Barto>that would be the dream instance for AB, but as a quickfix this will not do it, thanks anyway :)
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19:18:27<h2ibot>JustAnotherArchivist edited We-TeVe (+581, Infobox, archival, datetimeify): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=50692&oldid=50652
19:39:31<h2ibot>JacksonChen666 edited URLTeam/Dead (+605, add u.fail and related domains as dead (moved…): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=50693&oldid=49996
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23:47:16<guest_5981>Update for Kongregate - they're removing their forums on September 6, making content inaccessible. Hopefully they're archived.
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23:56:30<@JAA>guest_5981: Huh, is there an announcement about this somewhere?
23:57:46<guest_5981>It shows when I opened a random game.

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