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05:17:51<Ryz>Not sure if this is the right place, what other internet search engines do you folks recommend for normal and specialized purposes in relation to internet archiving? I use DuckDuckGo normally, with Bing, and Google as a last result; then again, search results overall have been deteriorating more and more... :C
05:18:08<Ryz>I also try using Yandex, I believe the Russian version, which gives different results than the English version oO;
05:24:07<pokechu22>IIRC DuckDuckGo gets its results from bing - I generally only use it and bing
05:24:49<pokechu22>Yandex is probably good for russian stuff, and https://search.yahoo.co.jp/ is good for japanese stuff, but I don't use them as general things
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05:26:54<pokechu22>That said, google (and ddg) treat site:sinapism.net differently from site:www.sinapism.net, and you'll get fewer resutls. ddg/bing is also more willing to treat binary files as if they were text.
05:27:59<pokechu22>Google also supports site:*.sinapism.net -site:www.sinapism.net which is useful for subdomains (though not useful here). ddg does not support the * one (it does still support -)
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12:24:31<Harzilein>hi
12:25:09<Harzilein>i naively thought wget-lua --save-headers --max-redirect=0 --content-on-error https://tiny.cc/PirateChangelog would save the redirect headers, but alas it doesn't...
12:25:57<Harzilein>i understand you don't want to change the command line interface, but maybe some kind of pre-flight lua script could adjust things when someone extended the logic to support this case?
12:28:04<@OrIdow6>Harzilein: We use wget-lua with WARC output rather than writing the body to a file
12:29:37<@OrIdow6>(Which is kind of a standardized version of --save-headers)
12:29:41<Harzilein>hmm... yeah, that makes sense
12:30:20<Harzilein>wonder if there is an importer for warc-formatted responses into polipo format...
12:30:48<@OrIdow6>Looks like vanilla wget doesn't save anything either
12:31:28<Harzilein>yeah, that's why i thought adding additional command line options over the lua ones would probably not be accepted into the wget-lua code
12:31:48<Harzilein>but a buffed out lua api for such cases might
12:32:06<Harzilein>but maybe the warc workaround isn't too bad
12:32:08<@OrIdow6>What changes are you thinking of?
12:32:42<Harzilein>OrIdow6: modifying the user agent object (if such a thing exists) to also save headers when there is _no_ content
12:32:55<Harzilein>(i.e. a dictionary entry)
12:33:25<@OrIdow6>Ah
12:33:29<Harzilein>s/to also/to allow to also/
12:34:02<Harzilein>i.e. with no lua loaded to explicitely enable it, it'd still behave like wget
12:35:01<@OrIdow6>I don't think adding that as a command-line option would cause us much trouble? It'd make the --help a line longer, but aside from that sounds like it'd only be a few little differences
12:35:54<@OrIdow6>A change like that might benefit more people being added to the vanilla wget (which has not taken stuff from wget-lua in I think close to a decade now)
12:36:23<Harzilein>arent't the wget2 people at the help at wget now?
12:36:29<Harzilein>helm*
12:36:55<Harzilein>i.e. they'd consider it in maintenance mode
12:37:46<@OrIdow6>Oh, yeah
12:37:52<@OrIdow6>Haven't really been keeping track of that
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12:38:31<@OrIdow6>Well, if you want to PR it, feel free; I'm not in control of the repo so it's not my decision but I don't think the people who do would mind
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12:56:22<h2ibot>Bzc6p edited Indafotó (+76, /* Archiving */ Some details): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=50468&oldid=49975
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18:33:51<@arkiver>looks like we have backfeed issues
18:34:43<@kaz>nobody tell immibis
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19:49:10<nicolas17>what's going on with the tracker?
19:49:30<nicolas17>there's almost no completed items
19:49:38<nicolas17>I'm getting "Failed to submit discovered URLs.wantreadnil" on imgur
19:50:28<nicolas17>but todo keeps going down, so workers are getting items, and apparently failing them? I guess claims is going up fast
19:51:39<nicolas17>it may make sense to pause the projects so we stop giving out more items?
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19:59:48<nicolas17>arkiver: ^
20:07:34<@kaz>Being worked on
20:07:37<@kaz>issue has been located
20:07:58<Exorcism>nicolas17: arkiver replied to you in #imgone
20:08:19<@arkiver>no worries about this issues will be resolved very soon
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20:47:31<nicolas17>dw take your time to resolve it, I'm just concerned about the item-trashing *until* it's resolved
20:56:09<flashfire42>Issue is still ongoing by the look of it I will pause the warrior for the time being
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21:13:37<nicolas17>yeah, should pause all projects on the tracker side imo :/
21:14:11<flashfire42>cc arkiver
21:25:35<@rewby>I think there's some redis related fuckery going on
21:25:40<@rewby>It's being worked on as far as I knwo
21:34:19<@arkiver>pausing projects
21:34:21<@arkiver>should soon be back up
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21:39:50<nicolas17>imgur todo is still going down 🤔
21:41:14<@arkiver>uh
21:41:45<@arkiver>therew go
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21:52:40<nicolas17>skyblog also dequeueing 2000/min?
21:52:53<nicolas17>ah no old numbers, sorry
21:53:03<nicolas17>it's fine
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