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00:02:07<fireonlive>hmm ye :3
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00:34:52<TheTechRobo>IIRC I asked this before and it’s ‘bullshit’
00:34:57<TheTechRobo>this used to be the off topic channel
00:35:06<TheTechRobo>#Archiveteam used to be for discussion
00:37:28<qyxojzh|m>Oh, hence the BS
00:39:44pabs wonders if its time to change the channel list to be more self explanatory: #archiveteam-announce #archiveteam-discuss #archiveteam-offtopic etc
00:40:08<pabs>(and make the existing channels redirects to the new ones, if hackint can do that)
00:40:29<fireonlive>https://archive.fart.website/bin/irclogger_log/archiveteam-bs?date=2012-10-10,Wed&sel=44#l44
00:41:08<fireonlive>Cannot join #archiveteam-announce - Channel is invite only.; Cannot join #archiveteam-discuss - Channel is invite only.; Cannot join #archiveteam-offtopic - Channel is invite only.
00:41:10<fireonlive>damn it.
00:41:15<fireonlive>pabs: ye, forwarding is possible
00:41:20<fireonlive>see #helloworld for an example
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00:43:32<fireonlive>https://archive.fart.website/bin/irclogger_log/archiveteam?date=2015-03-28,Sat&sel=107#l107
00:43:37<fireonlive>it does mean bullshit :D
00:43:54<fireonlive>i guess the 2012 was more canonical, bute h
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00:44:08<pabs>oh, someone already created those, huh
00:44:45<fireonlive>not registered with chanserv, but presumably JAA or someone is idling in there :)
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01:02:23<thuban>i kind of prefer 'bs' to 'discuss' anyway
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01:09:59<fireonlive>we can retcon it to bikeshed ;)
01:10:58<fireonlive>though ot is said to be for that :D
01:11:15<fireonlive>cow dung it stays
01:11:52<nulldata>This is for on-topic bikeshedding - ot is for off-topic bikeshedding
01:16:16<fireonlive>that works :D
01:16:21<fireonlive>bikeshedding it is
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01:51:58<fireonlive>fuck.
01:52:29<fireonlive>oh never mind, crisis averted
01:53:58<fireonlive>https://community.poly.com bought by HP, links broken/gone. but, content seems to now be merged to the 'HP community' under HP's GENIUS naming scheme of https://h30434.www3.hp.com
01:54:26<fireonlive>i've read somewhere the h#####.www3 is basically an asset number for the server whatever runs on. because that's how they do it in enterprise shit land
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02:05:29<nulldata>Polycom had some pretty rock solid desk phones. I have no doubt HP will run what is left right into the ground. RIP
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02:13:13fireonlive pours one out
02:18:04<pabs>fireonlive: terrifying naming scheme, wonder if that qualifies all of hp.com for archiving :)
02:18:23<pabs>or at least h*.www3.hp.com :)
02:19:29<fireonlive>hmm might do :)
02:20:07<fireonlive>anything poly.com most likely as it is slowly absorbed like community.poly.com suddenly was
02:20:31<fireonlive>i like how https?://poly.com is conrefused for me, but www. works
02:20:35<fireonlive>very, very enterprise
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02:22:04<fireonlive>also their old domain which was polycom.com pre-poly re-branding; e.g. https://documents.polycom.com which goes to https://docs.poly.com now. dunno if anything lives on at the old one
02:25:26<fireonlive>http://spectralink.polycom.com/global/ seems to be one
02:25:34<fireonlive>(open directory)
02:25:46<fireonlive>the root redirects to https://www.spectralink.com
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02:29:11<fireonlive>s3 bucket(?), no directory listing sadly: https://downloads.polycom.com/strategic_partners/ibm/IBM_RMX_Integration_Solution_Release_Notes.pdf https://downloads.polycom.com/voice/voip/sip_sw_releases_matrix.html
02:31:39<fireonlive>http://voipt2.polycom.com
02:42:10<fireonlive>some more: https://paste.debian.net/hidden/305f6bc1/
02:45:49<h2ibot>Yts98 edited CUE! -See You Everyday- (+6, Update project status): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=50347&oldid=46609
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03:03:01<fireonlive>https://www.poly.com https://spaces.poly.com https://partners.poly.com/ https://blogs.poly.com https://realaccess.poly.com https://docs.poly.com https://info.lens.poly.com https://info.ztp.poly.com (some stuff on https://support.poly.com/ main page redirects to https://www.poly.com which links to stuff on support. there's also a sitemap, though
03:03:02<fireonlive>but who knows if it's actually working fully ;); https://support.poly.com/support/s/sitemap.xml) https://careers.poly.com https://staged.poly.com https://api.lens.poly.com https://info-dev.clariti.poly.com https://newsroom.poly.com/ https://learningcenter.poly.com/plconline/PolyU/Docs/Poly_Training_Course_Catalog_Update_Q3FY21.pdf
03:03:02<fireonlive>https://media-kb.poly.com/ProductionFiles/docs/HearingAidCompatibility.pdf https://media-kb.poly.com/ProductionFiles/docs/BBPRO5100DataSheet.pdf
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03:18:55<h2ibot>Yts98 edited ITunes U (+43, Mark status as offline, clean up formatting): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=50348&oldid=47927
03:21:36<fireonlive>huh, it said pastebin lol
03:21:56<fireonlive>:)
03:21:56<h2ibot>FireonLive edited WikiTeam (+25, archiving_type = other (thanks yts98, missed that)): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=50349&oldid=50332
03:23:32<yts98>trying to get rid of outdated "closing" projects :p
03:24:09<fireonlive>:)
03:24:19<fireonlive>wiki needs a lot of love
03:27:57<h2ibot>FireonLive edited LGTM.com (-186, It's dead): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=50350&oldid=48894
03:31:58<h2ibot>FireonLive edited Karayou.com (+39, still kicking, sorta): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=50351&oldid=49563
03:45:37<yts98>Is blog.pl eventually saved or not? I didn't find it in archivebot or AT IA items
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03:52:14<fireonlive>i see a few on https://archive.fart.website/archivebot/viewer/?q=blog.pl
03:52:43<fireonlive>not sure about the "roughly 100k of these were retrieved" (maybe that was another method before fart.website?)
03:53:56<fireonlive>couple more in https://archive.fart.website/archivebot/viewer/?q=blog.onet.pl
03:54:51<fireonlive>actually could be some of the blog.pls in the first fart has the homepages of the ~100k blogs (ab does one level of outlink by default)
03:56:19<thuban>JAA would know more, having been the project lead
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04:12:05<h2ibot>Yts98 edited Blox (+40, Mark status as offline; several pages were…): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=50352&oldid=36088
04:13:32<fireonlive>yts98++
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05:00:14<h2ibot>Tech234a edited Gfycat (+80, Note Snap Inc. ownership): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=50353&oldid=50279
05:09:20<@Buizel>https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/Blog.pl#Archival_efforts ?
05:14:56<fireonlive>i think they're looking to link to the data
05:16:40<@Buizel>Ah
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05:41:04<yts98>Oh, I was going to ask blox.pl instead of blog.pl lol
05:41:24<fireonlive>😠
05:41:25<fireonlive>lol
05:41:38<fireonlive>easy mistake x3
05:42:04<yts98>The last mention of blox.pl I saw is https://archive.fart.website/bin/irclogger_log/archiveteam-bs?date=2019-03-06,Wed&sel=93#l93
05:43:19<fireonlive>hmm yeah it's nowhere on https://hackint.logs.kiska.pw/?q=blox.pl&w=a (except right now) either
05:44:43<fireonlive>arkiver might have to dig deep into the memory banks
05:44:53<fireonlive>but it's possible it's a lost one
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08:56:56<h2ibot>Switchnode edited ArchiveTeam Warrior (+1385, begin to distinguish between warrior and…): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=50354&oldid=50040
08:57:36<thuban>JAA: would appreciate a review ^
08:57:44<thuban>this doesn't actually address most of the faq/troubleshooting section (either the fact that it doesn't clearly distinguish what's the warrior and what's dpos generally, or the fact that there's a lot of text shared between it and the 'running with docker' page), but it lays the groundwork for doing so
08:58:21<thuban>(and i did what i REALLY wanted to do, which was get the big long newbie-scaring command lines out from in front of the toc)
08:58:38<thuban>if we're serious about this we should move 'warrior projects' to 'dpos projects' and edit 'dev/infrastructure' accordingly. and probably decide whether it's "warrior" or "Warrior". i'm not gonna though cause i need sleep
08:59:46<@Sanqui>I think it's a Warrior
08:59:48<@Sanqui>well done though
09:00:07<thuban>btw, Sanqui, do you happen to have corresponding podman instructions for the docker commands in faq/troubleshooting? we might want to add them
09:00:25<thuban>(or wiki user Cody, but i don't know whether they're on irc)
09:00:39<@Sanqui>Cody is probably a better bet, my setup was very basic and they improved it
09:00:58<@Sanqui>I think my warrior is broken atm and I'm not even sure if it's podman's fault
09:01:12<@Sanqui>been kinda doing other stuff but if I get back into it I can try to fix it up
09:01:29<thuban>it do be like that sometimes
09:01:58<thuban>night all
09:02:04<@Sanqui>nin
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09:28:00<@Buizel>Another idea for LLAMA or similar, have a bot that can rewrite wiki pages automatically
09:28:22<@Buizel>From chat logs
09:28:45<@Buizel>Maybe you'd ping it when something noteworthy happens
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12:40:49<@rewby>thuban, Sanqui: Re podman commands: We still have a PR open on https://github.com/ArchiveTeam/warrior-dockerfile/pull/77 about that
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14:59:39<yakabuff>hello
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15:50:43<fireonlive>bye
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16:01:52<@JAA>thuban: You're expecting me to remember anything from a project over 5 years ago? :-)
16:05:37<@JAA>fireonlive: Checked my notes, I did some independent wpull stuff for blog.pl. The raw data is on IA but not included in the WBM because it's infested with rate limiting errors. I was going to produce a filtered version that would make browsing bearable, but the tooling didn't and still doesn't exist (WIP though, slowly).
16:07:58<fireonlive>you are a great note keeper! thanks for checking :)
16:09:06<fireonlive>and ye, having WBM full of 'you are rate limited' would be super gross
16:11:24<mpeter|m><TheTechRobo> "I think Google Groips Files..." <- oh, so that was google groups **files**.. I see
16:11:58<mpeter|m>do you perhaps also have archives of google groups message boards?
16:12:10<@JAA>thuban: The warrior doesn't use project images. It just clones the project repo and tries to run the pipeline. Which is also why wget-at upgrades might break for a while on the warrior, because it still ships with an older version (until we rebuild the warrior image, which can only be done when the important projects are using the new wget-at version).
16:13:57<fireonlive>important eh :3
16:14:05fireonlive imagines the politiking
16:15:10<@JAA>thuban: Other than that, it seems good, thanks a lot!
16:16:28<@JAA>fireonlive: Not much. It can be summarised as 'nobody* runs URLs in the warrior, so we can ignore that; are all other active projects updated? good, rebuild triggered'.
16:16:44<fireonlive>ah :)
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16:47:44<yakabuff>If anyone's interested, I've been working on a Reddit archiver/viewer: https://github.com/yakabuff/redarc
16:48:12<yakabuff>It can display pushshift dumps and fetch new threads if you have an API key
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18:00:51<Ryz>So, with Google starting to push for deleting inactive accounts starting in December, I'm pondering on what stuff to start saving, a real big one would be Blogspot :C
18:01:46<Ryz>Would like help on what other areas to archive regarding Google user content... YouTube is very much out of our league since we have to much more picky on what to grab because hard drive space is something that has to be managed x_x;
18:02:11<Ryz>There's also Google Drive stuff, but uhh...
18:03:45<Ryz>...Is YouTube included...?
18:14:52<yakabuff>youtube is not included: https://blog.google/technology/safety-security/updating-our-inactive-account-policies/
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18:31:38<fireonlive>yakabuff: postgres 😍
18:31:46<fireonlive>thanks! that looks super neat
18:32:14<yakabuff>:)
18:32:24<fireonlive>:)
18:32:53<yakabuff>I used to have a demo instance but reddit forced me to take it down
18:33:39<fireonlive>oof :/
18:34:18<Ryz>yakabuff, bet the only reason they said that is that otherwise everyone would be mad-rushing to archive anything YouTube related :/
18:34:23<fireonlive>i guess they’re on a warpath
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18:43:46<VickoSaviour>So, i think Wysp is saved. Tracker shows that everything is done. I think you can edit the page about the Wysp.
18:45:21<VickoSaviour>What about the Gfycat platform, is there some kind of work to set up the 2019-2023 project up?
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19:18:46<imer>soon!
19:18:54<imer>ah they gone
19:19:20<fireonlive>VickoSaviour never stays in one place for too long
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19:20:00<fireonlive>one might say too short, even
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20:48:11<@JAA>They also don't seem to grasp the concept of project channels.
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20:54:03<h2ibot>Petchea created Kienu (+212, Created page with "{{Infobox project | URL =…): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?title=Kienu
20:55:03<h2ibot>Tomodachi94 edited INTERNETARCHIVE.BAK/ipfs implementation (+214, Note about…): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=50356&oldid=22152
20:55:04<h2ibot>Switchnode edited ArchiveTeam Warrior (+46, /* Warrior architecture and alternatives */…): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=50357&oldid=50354
21:23:08<h2ibot>Exorcism uploaded File:Lgtm-screenshot.png: https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?title=File%3ALgtm-screenshot.png
21:23:09<h2ibot>Exorcism edited LGTM.com (+30): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=50359&oldid=50350
21:29:09<h2ibot>Exorcism uploaded File:Karayou-logo.gif: https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?title=File%3AKarayou-logo.gif
21:29:10<h2ibot>Exorcism uploaded File:Karayou-screenshot.png: https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?title=File%3AKarayou-screenshot.png
21:30:09<h2ibot>Exorcism edited Karayou.com (+59): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=50362&oldid=50351
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21:39:11<h2ibot>Exorcism edited Archive.today (+148): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=50363&oldid=47090
21:44:12<h2ibot>Yts98 edited Blox (-10, No, it's blog.pl rather than blox.pl that is…): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=50364&oldid=50352
22:00:15<h2ibot>Yts98 edited Picosong (+21, Mark status of Disqus comments as online): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=50365&oldid=47749
22:06:16<h2ibot>Yts98 edited The Lighthouse Directory (+82, Update project status): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=50366&oldid=47592
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22:13:08<fireonlive>=== The instructions to run the software/scripts are awful and they are difficult to set up. ===
22:13:09<fireonlive>Well, excuuuuse me, princess!
22:13:10<fireonlive>lmfao
22:16:18<h2ibot>FireonLive edited ArchiveTeam Warrior (+67, update docker commands per imer, include…): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=50367&oldid=50357
22:16:34<fireonlive>didn't touch podman... they should be the same for logs though?
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22:21:19<h2ibot>FireonLive edited Running Archive Team Projects with Docker (+255, Include --include-restarting as per imer): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=50368&oldid=49744
22:22:13<fireonlive>hmmmmmm
22:22:28<fireonlive>maybe urls shouldn't be our 'example' project there, with all our caveats
22:22:44<@rewby>reddit probably makes more sense
22:22:45<fireonlive>it is the longest running one though. could pop shreddit in there I guess.
22:22:50<fireonlive>hey twins
22:22:54<fireonlive>will update
22:25:20<h2ibot>Yts98 edited Apple Daily (+230, Update project status, move {{inprogress}} to…): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=50369&oldid=48908
22:25:20<@arkiver>fireonlive: URLs is also the most dangerous project
22:25:31<@arkiver>so might want to be careful with setting it as example or default anywhere
22:26:20<h2ibot>FireonLive edited Running Archive Team Projects with Docker (+5, Change URLs project example to Reddit. URLs…): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=50370&oldid=50368
22:26:42<fireonlive>for sure.. don't want our first interaction with a new contributor/user to be 'hey i wanted to help but my ISP is threatening to disconnect me???'
22:26:58<@arkiver>:P
22:27:03<fireonlive>even if the notice is bullshit, it leaves a unexpected sour taste in their mouth
22:27:04<fireonlive>lol
22:27:07<fireonlive>:3
22:27:18<@arkiver>yep
22:27:22<appledash>Why is URLs "dangerous"?
22:27:32<appledash>I figured the "risk" was just getting your IP banned from random web sites
22:28:18<@arkiver>URLs is partially aimed at archiving outlinks from other sites
22:28:21<@arkiver>for example reddit
22:28:36<@arkiver>it can cause you to download any random crap someone might link to online
22:30:12<fireonlive>ye, and there's 'sinkholes' that (genuinely helpfully) try to alert you if you contact certain domains that you might be infected with X, or people might get angry if you access a file that was linked somewhere because <???>
22:30:29<fireonlive>also, you might cause facebook/youtube/etc to start rate-limiting your IP, which would make you sad at your house
22:30:53<fireonlive>URLs/outlinks very important, but also quite the beat
22:30:56<fireonlive>s/beat/beast/
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22:38:41<Barto>while running URLs, i had multiple instances where my ISP would suddenly "temporarily suspend" my internet because of those abuse reports. This would get unsuspended by just clicking a checkbox in the router panel, complete a captcha (lol), or change the router password, no permanent things.
22:38:47<Barto>but yeah, don't run URLs at home :D
22:40:22<h2ibot>Yts98 edited This Is My Jam (+288, Update project status): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=50371&oldid=46192
22:45:14<fireonlive>i have found the source of the rewby-pings: I see messages about rsync errors. Uh-oh! Something is not right. Please notify us immediately in the appropriate IRC channel.
22:45:27<fireonlive>https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Running_Archive_Team_Projects_with_Docker&action=edit&section=24
22:45:28<fireonlive>:p
22:46:23<h2ibot>FireonLive edited Running Archive Team Projects with Docker (-87, *spiderman pointing meme*): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=50372&oldid=50370
22:46:45<fireonlive>i'll match it to the FAQ in https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=ArchiveTeam_Warrior&oldid=50367#I_see_messages_about_rsync_errors. which is more snesible
22:46:48<fireonlive>snenssbible
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22:50:24<h2ibot>FireonLive edited Running Archive Team Projects with Docker (+255, save rewby's life): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=50373&oldid=50372
22:51:00<fireonlive>:p
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23:16:29<h2ibot>Yts98 edited Tribe.net (+346, Update project status): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=50374&oldid=47641
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