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00:00:08<h2ibot>JAABot edited List of websites excluded from the Wayback Machine (+0): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=50315&oldid=50314
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01:45:53<GhostyTongue>so do i send the url here or #archiveteam ?
01:46:01<pabs>here
01:46:27<GhostyTongue>ok whats the channel commands
01:47:07<pabs>just post what you want archived and the reason for archiving here and an admin will take care of it
01:47:22<GhostyTongue>sweet ok
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01:47:37<GhostyTongue>1. https://go-60de6c82-be11-98e1-4d6c-c65a234eee95.disney.io/
01:47:44<GhostyTongue>2. http://dolimg-60de6c82-be11-98e1-4d6c-c65a234eee95.disney.io/
01:47:56<GhostyTongue>They both are under a google storage bucket
01:48:08<GhostyTongue>and their was another but that one closed a few months ago
01:48:15<GhostyTongue>and im pretty worried for those
01:48:26<pokechu22>https://go-60de6c82-be11-98e1-4d6c-c65a234eee95.disney.io just redirects to disney.com if I ignore a certificate error
01:48:35<pokechu22>is there more to it?
01:48:42<GhostyTongue>pokechu22 use gsutil
01:49:31<pokechu22>Ah, so it's possible to generate a lit of valid URLs for each bucket? I've only seen similar stuff with amazon AWS where you get an XML file when loading it, but I guess this is different
01:50:11<@JAA>dolimg returns an HTTP 200 with 'Oops! We're sorry, but we're having technical problems.' for me.
01:50:26<pokechu22>Yeah, same for me
01:50:44<pokechu22>I'm taking a look at https://cloud.google.com/storage/docs/gsutil - first time I've heard of this
01:50:49<GhostyTongue>they both work when using gsutil
01:51:05<@JAA>Doesn't that require auth?
01:51:10<GhostyTongue>nope
01:51:20<GhostyTongue>im pretty sure its not configured
01:51:54<pokechu22>ok, `apt install gsutil` gives me GrandStream BudgeTone phone backup, restore and reboot utility - http://www.pkts.ca/gsutil.shtml which is clearly not the right thing
01:52:08<@JAA>It's in PyPI it seems.
01:52:54<@JAA>Although the official docs don't seem to mention this, or at least not prominently if it is somewhere. They instead try to make you install an entire set of CLIs.
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01:54:06<GhostyTongue>https://cloud.google.com/storage/docs/gsutil_install
01:54:35<GhostyTongue>theirs the install instructions it seems to be lise aws cli but for google storage buckets
01:54:38<@JAA>Wow, gsutil's code is disgusting. In the first few lines I'm reading, I'm already seeing `importlib` and `sys.path` madness.
01:54:55<GhostyTongue>ew
01:56:13<pokechu22>Huh, and `gsutil ls gs://dolimg-60de6c82-be11-98e1-4d6c-c65a234eee95.disney.io/` lists stuff in the root directory (though it doesn't recurse over it)
01:57:14<GhostyTongue>it should be -r
01:57:20<GhostyTongue>and -h
01:57:33<GhostyTongue>and also -l if im not wrong
01:57:46<pokechu22>Ah, yep
01:58:58<GhostyTongue>yeah
01:59:21<GhostyTongue>both cdns combinded is 340+ gb of data
02:00:06<pokechu22>That should be doable for archivebot as long as we pick a pipeline with enough space
02:01:17<GhostyTongue>cool
02:02:14<pokechu22>I'm currently doing a listing for gs://dolimg-60de6c82-be11-98e1-4d6c-c65a234eee95.disney.io - thanks for bringing this up
02:02:35<GhostyTongue>:)
02:02:48<pokechu22>I am curious where gsutil is getting the data from - it'd be nice to also save all of those metadata URLs
02:03:42<GhostyTongue>🤷
02:04:04<@JAA>The core seems to be a 2000-line wrapper around boto.
02:04:17<GhostyTongue>relly
02:04:29<@JAA>https://github.com/GoogleCloudPlatform/gsutil/blob/667663786c06d6e5849a467645e1846c908046bf/gslib/boto_translation.py
02:04:55<GhostyTongue>whats the job id for the amazon buckets of jumpstart games?
02:05:50<@JAA>That didn't run through ArchiveBot because it required deduplication.
02:06:31<GhostyTongue>meaning?
02:06:32<pokechu22>Interesting, it seems like most of the files on dolimg are dated to 2018?
02:06:47<@JAA>Meaning there is no job ID.
02:07:11<GhostyTongue>yeah my group of friends who discovered it assumed when ever they remove or add a file all file dates gets modifed
02:07:32<GhostyTongue>either that or its a google cloud update
02:08:04<pokechu22>e.g. I see 129304 2018-02-16T20:20:01Z gs://dolimg-60de6c82-be11-98e1-4d6c-c65a234eee95.disney.io/en-US/blogs/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/thomas_pocahontas_imaginary_boyfriends.jpg - that file is clearly from 2013 but is dated 2018 still
02:08:36<@JAA>Perhaps they migrated to GCP in 2018?
02:08:37<GhostyTongue>its either google or disney that did that
02:08:50<GhostyTongue>I agree JAA'
02:09:25<GhostyTongue>i do know theirs a file in the cdn that should not be archive it includes ftp logins
02:09:32<GhostyTongue>and two ftps do indeed work
02:09:41<GhostyTongue>and i dont want anyone messing with the ftps
02:10:49<pokechu22>TOTAL: 1508969 objects, 280062417599 bytes (260.83 GiB) for dolimg-60de6c82-be11-98e1-4d6c-c65a234eee95.disney.io
02:11:18<pokechu22>Are the URLs used by this CDN also used on other sites? Like, would a site embed dolimg-60de6c82-be11-98e1-4d6c-c65a234eee95.disney.io/en-US/blogs/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/thomas_pocahontas_imaginary_boyfriends.jpg directly? Or is it a duplicate of a file on a different site?
02:11:18<GhostyTongue>that was quick damn
02:11:22<pokechu22>Not that that's really a problem
02:11:36<pokechu22>To be clear: that's the time to list files, not download them :)
02:11:51<GhostyTongue>i honestly have no clue
02:12:08<GhostyTongue>i also really enjoy a look thru into /worldofcars/ within dolimg
02:12:13<GhostyTongue>and i did archived it
02:12:26<GhostyTongue>https://archive.org/details/world-of-cars-and-cars-site
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02:17:26<pokechu22>TOTAL: 509858 objects, 48022996845 bytes (44.72 GiB) for go-60de6c82-be11-98e1-4d6c-c65a234eee95.disney.io. I'm going to run that as http instead of https since they both seem to be the same content, but https has a bad cert
02:17:42<GhostyTongue>cool
02:17:52<GhostyTongue>ok
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02:33:35<@JAA>An ArchiveBot job for Yandex.Q has been running since late June, but the site is very obviously too large for AB. There are pretty strict rate limits which trigger captcha page redirects.
02:33:56<@JAA>Probably needs the DPoS treatment to get anywhere near decent coverage.
02:34:31<pokechu22>Worth noting that archivebot also extracts TONS of junk URLs on Yandex, which are ignored on that job but don't help with archivebot's performance
02:35:43<@JAA>Hard to say how quickly we need to move here. I'd assume it's not extremely urgent, but whenever there's room for getting a project going, this would be good to do I think.
02:35:47<@JAA>Cc arkiver OrIdow6 ^
02:36:59<flashfire42>So I presume we arent doing trove? I would like to push a project for that too considering how large an archive it is
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02:46:38<h2ibot>JustAnotherArchivist edited Deathwatch (+178, /* 2023 */ Add Яндекс Кью aka Yandex.Q): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=50316&oldid=50310
02:51:07<@JAA>Agreed on Trove!
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04:50:20<@OrIdow6>On Yandex, I could do it, though Egloos + Wysp and then Google Drive come first
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13:03:08<themadpro>It's not the most important site on the web by a long-shot but any chance we can get an archivebot job on https://www.koopatv.org/ ?
13:04:03<themadpro>It's a parody blog based on mario characters running since 2013 that recently closed (marked as archived)
13:14:37<Barto>themadpro: i'll see what i can do, thanks
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14:06:25<qyxojzh|m>Hey; could use some info on how do I properly report website shutdown announcements over on the other room
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14:09:06<joepie91|m>qyxojzh: you can just post about it, just try to keep it compact with all the important details put together
14:13:27<qyxojzh|m>Sorry for editing so much, I kept forgetting info
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14:24:19<joepie91|m>wait, did you post in the other room? I'm not seeing it
14:24:20<@OrIdow6>I maintain that the "no more than 5 words per year in #at!!!" often goes too hard, especially to newcomers
14:24:36<qyxojzh|m>Pretty sure I did
14:24:47<qyxojzh|m>OrIdow6: Pardon?
14:24:51<@OrIdow6>We should not have people thinking that this is a formal affair
14:25:17<qyxojzh|m>(I must say I'm new, sorry)
14:25:20<@OrIdow6>qyxojzh|m: Not talking about you directly
14:25:40<@OrIdow6>Saying that we should stop telling people not to post too much in #archiveteam
14:25:41<qyxojzh|m>I guess that's the continuation of a previous convo?
14:25:44<@OrIdow6>No
14:25:56<qyxojzh|m>Oh now I see what you mean
14:26:07<qyxojzh|m>Didn't connect the dots earlier… XD
14:26:25<@OrIdow6>:)
14:26:52<@OrIdow6>Anyhow yeah, it's not loading for me, could be something based on my location/location on the Internet maybe
14:27:10<qyxojzh|m>OrIdow6: Sounds about right, because _I_ can access it
14:27:23<qyxojzh|m>would a VPN help?
14:27:35<@OrIdow6>If you have sources on its being shut down qyxojzh|m those would be appreciated
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14:27:57<qyxojzh|m>OrIdow6: Yeah good idea, excuse me
14:27:59<@OrIdow6>There are probably other people for whom it loads correctly, I don't want to bother with that
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14:30:12<qyxojzh|m>OrIdow6: Turns out it was fake; it's not being shut down at all… Although it would still be a good idea to back the thing up, who knows
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14:30:51<qyxojzh|m>One of the teachers at the uni I am enrolled in shared the “news” with me and with others in the group I am in
14:32:48<@OrIdow6>On the topic of being a good thing to back up anyway, we were discussing backing up the online version of the national library of Australia a few days ago, so yeah, definitely
14:32:59<qyxojzh|m>qyxojzh|m: Can I keep the link there even if it's not being shut down?
14:34:21<@OrIdow6>In #archiveteam? Yeah it's fine - FWIW I'm (as well as many other people here) using IRC, not Matrix, so I don't even see deletions
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15:05:49<spirit>yay console.hetzner.cloud/ is down
15:06:58<spirit>or it is me
15:09:22<spirit>nvm
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16:35:17<h2ibot>Bzc6p edited News+C/hu (-192, HVG 2021 done; update on video archiving): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=50317&oldid=49781
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16:57:56<VickoSaviour>What do you think; in the near future, do you have a plan to preserve MEGA, if it happens to be shut down?
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18:09:42<TheTechRobo>VickoSaviour: I don’t think much has been done in that regard but I could be weong
18:09:54<TheTechRobo>Why, is it shutting down soon?
18:10:04<TheTechRobo>Wrong*
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18:21:56<VickoSaviour>well, i don't think it has enough proofs to be considered endangered, so it is safe.
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19:53:00<masterx244|m><VickoSaviour> "What do you think; in the near..." <- its also a PITA to archive, javascript fuckery at its finest that doesnt play back in the WBM
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21:02:16<FavoritoHJS>appears google is going to delete accounts unused for 2 years. this won't affect much as basically anything will reset the timer, and having done anything on youtube will mean your account will never be garbage collected, so the only thing this should affect are google drive links.
21:03:05<FavoritoHJS>tbf that ship already sailed when old shares got made private-only, though.
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21:43:03<qyxojzh|m><FavoritoHJS> "appears google is going to..." <- Last I checked it's for after the death of a Google user
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21:54:57<@JAA>Nope: https://www.blog.google/technology/safety-security/updating-our-inactive-account-policies/
21:55:32<@JAA>Starting no sooner than December, they'll purge accounts that have been inactive for 2 years because security.
21:56:07<qyxojzh|m>Not surprised tbh
21:56:32<joepie91|m>"security"
21:57:14<qyxojzh|m>For their financial security, certainly
21:57:56<flashfire42>https://www.karayou.com/ is still up tho the spam is starting to creep in lol
21:58:44<fireonlive>'security'
21:58:57<fireonlive>google has gotten very 'holy shit how much space are we using?' lately it seems
21:59:01<qyxojzh|m>flashfire42: what's that?
21:59:09<fireonlive>and has turned up the purge dials
21:59:11<@JAA>SeCuRitY
21:59:22<fireonlive>:D
21:59:29<joepie91|m>fireonlive: wonder if it's anything to do with that fire in Paris
21:59:30<pokechu22>karayou was supposed to shut down... like january 1st or something?
21:59:34<fireonlive>hmmmm
21:59:39<joepie91|m>"wait, how many HDDs did we have to replace??"
21:59:40<flashfire42>Its a site mentioned on the deathwatch on the archiveteam wiki qyxojzh|m which was supposed to shut down at the start of this year but obviously someone forgot to flip a switch and its now starting to get spammers
21:59:44<fireonlive>lolol
21:59:56<qyxojzh|m>flashfire42: Deathwatch, what a name
22:00:05<pokechu22>Yeah, 2023年 (year) 1月 (1 month = January) 1日 (1 day = 1st)
22:00:32<qyxojzh|m>So it's a Japanese website?
22:01:08<@JAA>https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/Karayou.com
22:01:14<flashfire42>Also looks like Kaotic found a buyer the video saying its going down is gone so
22:01:29<pokechu22>Chinese, but same characters
22:01:47<pokechu22>also has a fairly large porn section, though not all of it is porn, just keep that in mind if you browse it
22:02:07<pokechu22>especially if you can't read the subforum names :P
22:02:13<qyxojzh|m>pokechu22: I _just_ might be able to help a little then
22:02:25<@JAA>Where? So I can avoid it? Asking for a friend (it's fireonlive).
22:02:37<pokechu22>We did save the entirety of it before January 1st 2023
22:02:52<pokechu22>It's the last group of subforums if I recall correctly
22:03:05<qyxojzh|m>qyxojzh|m: because 我明白一点儿中文
22:03:14<@JAA>That section has an '18' in the name, so sounds about right.
22:03:16<qyxojzh|m>sorry if that's a brag XD
22:03:17<pokechu22>成人專區(未滿18請勿進入) - the 18 specifically
22:03:23<fireonlive>x3
22:03:39<@JAA>Anyway, yeah, I archived all threads in late December.
22:03:41<qyxojzh|m>Yes, “do not come in if you're under eighteen” at the end
22:03:52<qyxojzh|m>Kudos to JAA
22:04:11<fireonlive>🔞
22:05:00<flashfire42>https://www.uktrainsim.com/ closes in a month and downloads are behind a login wall. I just put the site into archivebot but I dont think it will grab the downloads in retrospect
22:28:02<flashfire42>https://server8.kiska.pw/uploads/27737bab092284a5/image.png Time to grab Modworkshop.net?
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