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| 15:12:02 | <cm> | I find that firefox can display this article, but if I use wget with the same user agent I get 403: https://www.axios.com/2023/07/21/zients-biden-ai-authority |
| 15:12:18 | <cm> | how might they be detecting that it's wget? any workaround short of running a browser? |
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| 15:34:58 | <nicolas17> | this loads in Firefox |
| 15:35:08 | <nicolas17> | if I open the developer tools, Network tab, I can "copy as cURL" |
| 15:36:20 | <nicolas17> | which usually works, and then I can start trimming headers until it stops working |
| 15:36:22 | <nicolas17> | oh |
| 15:36:34 | <nicolas17> | cm: they have cloudflare protection, you're screwed |
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| 15:38:23 | <nicolas17> | opaque server-side checks, if they get suspicious of you, you get complex javascript which tries to see if it's a legit browser, if *that* fails you get a captcha |
| 15:38:50 | <nicolas17> | so even "running a browser" may not be enough |
| 15:38:51 | <cm> | nicolas17: but with cloudflare protection I would have thought wget would give me a cloudflare page? |
| 15:38:55 | <cm> | rather than 403 |
| 15:39:14 | <nicolas17> | I'm getting a cloudflare page |
| 15:39:23 | <nicolas17> | <title>Just a moment...</title> |
| 15:39:24 | <nicolas17> | <span id="challenge-error-text"> |
| 15:39:26 | <nicolas17> | Enable JavaScript and cookies to continue |
| 15:39:27 | <nicolas17> | </span> |
| 15:39:40 | <cm> | what is your wget command? |
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| 15:39:56 | <cm> | just plain wget with no special user agent? |
| 15:41:00 | <nicolas17> | ah seems the cloudflare challenge page is a 403 |
| 15:41:27 | <nicolas17> | use wget --content-on-error if you really want it :P |
| 15:41:32 | <dumbgoy> | doubting this would work for your usecase but what about flaresolverr? any way to integrate wget with that? |
| 15:41:38 | <cm> | ah I see |
| 15:41:49 | <cm> | --content-on-error is how you got the "Just a moment..." page? |
| 15:42:25 | <nicolas17> | well I was using curl instead of wget, which basically behaves like --content-on-error by default |
| 15:42:33 | <cm> | ah ok |
| 15:42:36 | <nicolas17> | but yes, with wget --content-on-error I get the "Just a moment" page saved into a file |
| 15:45:10 | <cm> | you sure this is cloudflare? doesn't mention them on the page |
| 15:46:26 | <nicolas17> | __cf in many places |
| 15:46:28 | <nicolas17> | :) |
| 15:46:57 | <nicolas17> | also headers: |
| 15:46:58 | <nicolas17> | < cf-mitigated: challenge |
| 15:47:00 | <nicolas17> | < server: cloudflare |
| 15:47:01 | <nicolas17> | < cf-ray: 7ea492992c1d08ed-EZE |
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| 15:49:52 | <fireonlive> | ahh cloudflare. both a protector and the bane of our existence :p |
| 15:52:21 | <cm> | cool cool |
| 15:52:33 | <cm> | thanks this has been really helpful |
| 15:52:47 | <cm> | that copy-as-curl trick is good to know |
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