| 00:01:08 | <h2ibot> | Arkiver edited YouTube (+70, can also ask arkiver if something can be allowed): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=50235&oldid=50177 |
| 00:02:08 | <h2ibot> | AdamSkI2003 edited Twitter (+108, added gallery-dl to the list of backup tools): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=50237&oldid=50136 |
| 00:07:19 | <@OrIdow6> | What's going on with Moodle? |
| 00:09:51 | <fireonlive> | hmm |
| 00:09:57 | <fireonlive> | good q |
| 00:10:12 | <fireonlive> | maybe individual instances? |
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| 08:21:22 | <Lord_Nightmare> | did archiveteam ever do a mirror of the contents of macgui? the owner seems to have taken down the entire collection "in protest" |
| 08:25:08 | <imer> | "In protest against the widespread commoditization of vintage Apple software and its subsequent devaluation, the Mac GUI Downloads collection is closed." what does that even mean lol |
| 08:25:34 | <imer> | https://www.macgui.com/downloads/ ^ |
| 08:25:58 | <imer> | "Since other people are also offering downloads of this, I'm shutting down in protest" ?? |
| 08:32:08 | <Lord_Nightmare> | https://macgui.com/blogs/?e=504 seems to imply something more like: |
| 08:32:24 | <Lord_Nightmare> | "the community is gone and nobody is writing new software because the old software is still available, so i should take that away so people start writing new software for vintage macs again" |
| 08:32:41 | <Lord_Nightmare> | That's like saying "people aren't writing enough new books, so let me burn down the library so they're FORCED to write new books" |
| 08:33:25 | <Lord_Nightmare> | someone in 2019 had at least a partial archive of the apple2 and IIgs parts of macgui, which is ... some portion of the whole |
| 08:33:48 | <Lord_Nightmare> | but i don't know if that person still has it |
| 08:34:14 | <Lord_Nightmare> | see FOIA discord #chit-chat |
| 08:35:17 | <imer> | "nobody is writing new software" for old macs? shock. |
| 08:35:24 | <Lord_Nightmare> | exactly |
| 08:35:49 | <Lord_Nightmare> | also, people ARE writing new software but mostly really niche things |
| 08:36:27 | <imer> | i'm sure its fun if you're into old macs and software dev, but thats a niche of a niche kinda thing |
| 08:38:10 | <DigitalDragons> | I see archivebot jobs from 2015 for macgui.com and www.macgui.com |
| 08:39:46 | <imer> | oh, didnt check that far back on the wbm |
| 08:39:55 | <imer> | https://web.archive.org/web/20151024211844/http://macgui.com/downloads/?mode=download&file_id=27879&n=e5eafa07cccb83c4e5bea5d65bf05083 no luck for the actual file though it seems |
| 08:40:13 | <imer> | from https://web.archive.org/web/20151021172944/http://macgui.com/downloads/?file_id=27879 |
| 09:34:25 | <Lord_Nightmare> | https://macgui.com/usenet/?group=1&id=269246#msg |
| 09:34:35 | <Lord_Nightmare> | apparently macgui themselves had a torrent of the "vault" |
| 09:34:39 | <Lord_Nightmare> | whatever that may be |
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| 09:45:32 | <imer> | was there ever a decision on running http://www.mexat.com/vb/ through AB btw? couldn't find anything in my logs |
| 09:46:13 | <imer> | (closing out some of my notepad++ tabs and came across it) |
| 09:47:03 | <imer> | don't think the specific list of posts was run through yet either? |
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| 10:08:58 | <h2ibot> | Exorcism uploaded File:Moodle-screenshot.png: https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?title=File%3AMoodle-screenshot.png |
| 10:08:59 | <h2ibot> | Exorcism edited Moodle (+21): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=50241&oldid=50232 |
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| 13:05:42 | <masterX244> | Potential target pipeline jamming inbound soon. https cert of the s3 api endpoint server is expired |
| 13:12:37 | <@HCross> | ? |
| 13:13:17 | <imer> | HCross: https://s3.us.archive.org |
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| 13:31:30 | <nstrom|m> | interesting, was wondering why optane9 was at -1 for a couple hours. maybe related |
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| 13:40:46 | <nstrom|m> | Valid until Mon, 17 Jul 2023 11:43:00 UTC (expired 1 hour and 56 minutes ago) |
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| 14:56:05 | <@OrIdow6> | Can we have a target on #wyspedaway please? Not urgent but it's otherwise ready |
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| 15:06:41 | <@kaz> | looks like they've got the cert sorted at least |
| 15:08:05 | <@kaz> | hmm, they serve *.s3.us.archive.org in one place, and *.us.archive.org in others |
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| 16:12:58 | <jonty> | Hey, thought I'd best give you a heads up that it looks like Discogs is about to go down the toilet really fast. There's a thread about what's going on here: https://twitter.com/MikeSimonetti/status/1680798692066902016 |
| 16:13:24 | <jonty> | Losing that database would be an absolute tragedy |
| 16:15:14 | <nulldata> | allaccess.com - A music and radio trade publication is shutting down August 15th. https://www.allaccess.com/net-news/archive/story/229534/due-to-severe-financial-headwinds-all-access-will- |
| 16:16:13 | <nulldata> | Looks like a lot of the content on the main site is login required. Also looks like they have a phpBB forum and another Wordpress blog |
| 16:16:22 | <nulldata> | https://www.allaccess.com/forum/ |
| 16:16:27 | <nulldata> | https://music.allaccess.com/ |
| 16:32:06 | <h2ibot> | Yts98 edited Wysp (+123, Mark as in progress): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=50242&oldid=50197 |
| 16:33:04 | <@JAA> | jonty: Thanks to Twitter being Twitter, only the single tweet is publicly viewable given that link. |
| 16:33:49 | <jonty> | oh my, apologies |
| 16:33:51 | <jonty> | let me screenshot it |
| 16:33:57 | <thuban> | https://nitter.cz/MikeSimonetti/status/1680798692066902016 |
| 16:35:35 | <jonty> | JAA: https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/GHXRw1XX/image.png |
| 16:36:28 | <@JAA> | I did discover the other day that Discogs is now completely unusable without JS. That may cause issues. |
| 16:36:59 | <@JAA> | Although at least the release pages still work. |
| 16:37:18 | <@JAA> | (As long as you don't want to look at the reviews, anyway.) |
| 16:37:21 | <jonty> | They do have an API, but given the rate limits I think extracting the data from there is infeasible |
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| 16:38:41 | <@JAA> | Yeah, that's a non-starter. They do still have the monthly dumps at least. |
| 16:39:16 | <@JAA> | https://data.discogs.com/ |
| 16:39:47 | <jonty> | Definitely worth backing that lot up |
| 16:39:58 | <@JAA> | A bunch of it is already mirrored to IA I believe. |
| 16:40:04 | <jonty> | Ace |
| 16:40:19 | <@JAA> | Stopped in March 2021 it seems: https://archive.org/details/discogs-dumps?sort=-publicdate |
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| 16:43:08 | <h2ibot> | Arkiver edited Mastodon (-143, a blanket ban on any mastodon archiving is…): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=50243&oldid=49446 |
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| 16:44:08 | <h2ibot> | DigitalDragon edited ZippCast (+72, add zippcast collection and archiving type): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=50244&oldid=28905 |
| 16:44:09 | <h2ibot> | DigitalDragon edited Your Shot (+72, add archiveteam_yourshot for data): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=50245&oldid=48084 |
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| 17:25:11 | <Exorcism|m> | <h2ibot> "DigitalDragon edited ZippCast (+..." <- I wonder how many sites are trying to reproduce the youtube of 2010 lol |
| 17:30:16 | <h2ibot> | Exorcism uploaded File:Yourshort-screenshot.png: https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?title=File%3AYourshort-screenshot.png |
| 17:30:17 | <h2ibot> | Exorcism uploaded File:Uanic-screenshot.png: https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?title=File%3AUanic-screenshot.png |
| 17:31:17 | <h2ibot> | Exorcism edited Your Shot (+34): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=50248&oldid=50245 |
| 17:31:18 | <h2ibot> | Exorcism edited .укр (+31): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=50249&oldid=48294 |
| 17:37:18 | <h2ibot> | JustAnotherArchivist edited Donate (+197): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=50250&oldid=43043 |
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| 17:40:50 | <GinnyHuo717> | Is it possible to request archival of a public form that may be at risk of being taken down? |
| 17:41:27 | <thuban> | GinnyHuo717: yes, go for it |
| 17:42:14 | <GinnyHuo717> | Geekhack was purchased a while ago by Massdrop, which is now under the ownership of Corsair. |
| 17:42:15 | <GinnyHuo717> | https://www.msn.com/en-us/lifestyle/shopping/corsair-acquires-mechanical-keyboard-specialist-drop/ar-AA1dYvOB |
| 17:42:20 | <GinnyHuo717> | https://geekhack.org/ |
| 17:42:59 | <GinnyHuo717> | There is no mention of it going away, but I am hopeful that it would be possible to preserve the contents. |
| 17:43:50 | <thuban> | definitely, we do forums like this all the time |
| 17:46:31 | <thuban> | i am checking to see which tooling is most appropriate, and will get back to you if you want to hang around |
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| 17:52:30 | <GinnyHuo> | Thank you so much! |
| 17:53:12 | <GinnyHuo> | <3 |
| 17:53:24 | <thuban> | it's what we're here for! thanks for letting us know |
| 17:55:41 | <nstrom|m> | https://drop.com/ for the main drop site too I suppose. good to know |
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| 17:55:58 | <GinnyHuo> | Good call on that one. |
| 17:56:16 | <nstrom|m> | I've bought stuff from them before but they've pivoted into a weird super overpriced luxury IT vendor |
| 17:56:33 | <GinnyHuo> | It feels that way for sure. |
| 17:56:55 | <GinnyHuo> | I got so caught up in sixteen years' worth of mechanical keyboard community data suddenly disappearing that I completely overlooked Drop itself. |
| 17:57:03 | <nstrom|m> | they started out as "massdrop" and did group buys where if they got X preorders for something they'd order it |
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| 17:58:48 | <nstrom|m> | but now it's nearly all status symbol keyboards and super expensive audiophile gear 🤷 |
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| 17:59:11 | <GinnyHuo> | Yeah, it is a huge shame. |
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| 17:59:33 | <GinnyHuo> | I miss the days when they had a cool assortment of things at entry-level prices. |
| 17:59:46 | <GinnyHuo> | Not now, when they are basically just another premium marketplace. |
| 17:59:51 | <nstrom|m> | yeppp |
| 18:07:33 | <pokechu22> | I'm running geekhack.org via archivebot (it's large but probably OK) and https://wiki.geekhack.org/ using wikiteam tools |
| 18:07:50 | <thuban> | GinnyHuo: you can see the progress at http://archivebot.com/3 (job id 8uri0irz9iyri3ku2bjbxyukp) |
| 18:09:56 | <GinnyHuo> | Thank you very much for your assistance! |
| 18:14:05 | <pokechu22> | worth noting that it was previously saved 2018: https://archive.fart.website/archivebot/viewer/?q=geekhack |
| 18:16:03 | <andrew> | apparently the .ml TLD has transferred control back to Mali effective *today* https://www.ft.com/content/ab62af67-ed2a-42d0-87eb-c762ac163cf0 |
| 18:16:27 | <andrew> | maybe we should archive it so we don't get another .ga situation |
| 18:17:01 | <andrew> | maybe all of Freenom's other TLDs as well, they seem to be falling apart |
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| 18:20:00 | <fireonlive> | if the NS records have already been updated there's little (if any) time for the 'domains that didn't make it' unfortunately |
| 18:20:37 | <fireonlive> | non-paywall: https://archive.is/UNHbk |
| 18:21:00 | <fireonlive> | (though you can still query the old freenom NS for the old domains I believe but i don't think AB supports that/that gets into murky 'tampering' waters) |
| 18:22:14 | <andrew> | fireonlive: as of right now "free" .ml domains are still online |
| 18:23:01 | <andrew> | the NS records for the TLD still have not been updated |
| 18:23:06 | <fireonlive> | ah, great! |
| 18:23:09 | <fireonlive> | hm |
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| 18:54:53 | <tzt> | JAA, jonty: there are also web crawls https://archive.org/details/discogs-web but those also stopped in March 2021 |
| 18:55:44 | <@JAA> | Those are all from early 2021, interesting. |
| 18:55:54 | <@JAA> | The other thing had been going for some time. |
| 18:57:31 | <h2ibot> | Switchnode edited ArchiveBot (+223, /* Usage Caveats a.k.a Things Not To Do With…): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=50251&oldid=49900 |
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| 20:51:14 | <vokunal|m> | can the bots here handle if i upload a zipped txt file or only zstd? |
| 20:58:09 | <fireonlive> | i don't think so (for automated submissions like imgone); zstd you're just stripping off the extension from the URL which lets transfer.* know to extract the zstd for you and the bot just reads the raw text |
| 20:58:53 | <fireonlive> | yep, it doesn't like that |
| 20:59:12 | <fireonlive> | (and removing .zip doesn't auto extract either) |
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| 21:01:00 | <@JAA> | Correct, only zstd. |
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| 21:05:22 | <vokunal|m> | Alright thanks |
| 21:11:39 | <@JAA> | Re motor-talk.de, topics and blog articles can be enumerated like https://www.motor-talk.de/-t7495710.html which redirects to the canonical URL. Tests are on a separate site. |
| 21:11:53 | <h2ibot> | Switchnode edited Deathwatch (+201, /* 2024 */ add motor-talk.de): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=50252&oldid=50225 |
| 21:12:53 | <h2ibot> | Switchnode edited Deathwatch (+0, /* 2024 */ fix chronological sorting): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=50253&oldid=50252 |
| 21:13:40 | <@JAA> | And yes, too big for AB. |
| 21:13:59 | <nicolas17> | rewby: did you finish uploading all the backlog of imgur warcs? |
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| 21:31:32 | <thuban> | dpos, since qwarc won't get media? |
| 21:49:29 | <@JAA> | qwarc can get anything its user tells it to. |
| 21:52:23 | <thuban> | right, but i had the impression it was impractical to set it up for arbitrary page requisites |
| 21:55:11 | <@JAA> | Not *really*, it just requires you to hook it up to an HTML parser etc. since qwarc by design doesn't come with anything like that. |
| 21:55:41 | <@JAA> | Could also grab the text contents first and then extract the media afterwards to retrieve them with AB or another qwarc process. |
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| 23:10:24 | <@JAA> | Working on the tracker, web interface might break, but actual tracker operation won't be affected. |
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| 23:11:55 | <fireonlive> | JAA, going head first into ruby. god speed. |
| 23:22:01 | <DigitalDragons> | good luck! |
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| 23:24:21 | <FavoritoHJS> | here to report it appears like github archives do not save comments correctly, which is a bit of a problem as i'm hearing gh is dissapearing some users |
| 23:29:01 | <FavoritoHJS> | see: https://social.pixie.town/@joepie91/110730217274637867 if nixos rings a bell to you i can direct you to more details |
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| 23:38:14 | <@JAA> | Ok, tracker maintenance is done. Just shuffled some bits around, no visible changes. |
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| 23:41:12 | <datechnoman> | Doing gods work :P |