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09:14:25<hitgrr8>https://nitter.lacontrevoie.fr/PublishersWkly/status/1639390560820637697
09:14:30<hitgrr8>>BREAKING: A federal judge has decided in favor of four publishers in the long-awaited copyright case Hachette v. Internet Archive. "There is nothing transformative about IA's copying and unauthorized lending of the works in the suit," the judge writes. This story is developing.
09:14:42<automato83>How concerned should we be about the status of the data at large hosted by the internet archive in light of the court decision against the archive? What would it take to resuscitate the iabak project?
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09:24:52<hitgrr8>https://archive.ph/2023.03.25-004855/https://www.theverge.com/2023/3/24/23655804/internet-archive-hatchette-publisher-ebook-library-lawsuit
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13:01:41<TheTechRobo>What even is that logic? LMAO
13:01:47<TheTechRobo>Now digital libraries have to be transformative?
13:01:55<TheTechRobo>What's next, libraries in general?
13:03:16<TheTechRobo>I suppose this lawsuit is about Open Library, though, when they didn't put a limit to the amount of books lended out, correct? (If not, this whole thing is BS)
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14:10:15<jamesp>https://teddit.net/r/DataHoarder/comments/1215jex/the_internet_archive_lost_their_court_case/jdkv0no/ in case you guys haven't seen
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14:18:36<h2ibot>Entartet edited List of websites excluded from the Wayback Machine/Partial exclusions (+35, Added twitter.com/TaylorLorenz.): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=49593&oldid=49579
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15:05:56<whoami>TheTechRobo: it is about Open Library
15:05:58<whoami>> Typically, the Internet Archive’s Open Library program operates under a “controlled digital lending” (CDL) system where it can loan out digitized copies of a book on a one-to-one basis, but it removed those waitlists to offer easier access to those books when stay-at-home orders arrived during the pandemic.
15:06:11<whoami>but i don't believe that was the reason IA lost
15:06:14<whoami>> Judge John G. Koeltl decided that the Internet Archive had done nothing more than create “derivative works,” and so would have needed authorization from the books’ copyright holders — the publishers — before lending them out through its National Emergency Library program.
15:07:43<whoami>I guess that only applies because IA made the argument that scanning was transformative. So maybe it has no bearing on the one-to-one method, if you could make a different argument for why that's legal? IDK, IANAL.
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15:46:36<TheTechRobo>I think that they just lost because it's not 1 to 1
15:46:55<TheTechRobo>The 1-to-1 lending would just be what a library does. It makes sense that what they did in 2020 isn't legal
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17:35:26<qwertyasdfuiopghjkl>WorldCat Identities shutting down: https://worldcat.org/identities/ "The OCLC Research WorldCat Identities project is ending." "The WorldCat Identities web application will be retired and shut down in the coming months and the data is no longer being updated. The most recent version of the data is from July of 2022."
17:35:29<qwertyasdfuiopghjkl>The shutdown notice appeared on 2023-03-02, between 14:06:26 and 14:08:24 UTC+0 ( https://web.archive.org/web/20230302140626/https://www.worldcat.org/identities/lccn-n83196050/identity.html , https://web.archive.org/web/20230302140824/https://www.worldcat.org/identities/lccn-n84-133018/ )
17:36:56<pokechu22>TBH I don't really know why both that and https://viaf.org/ existed (both projects of OCLC)
17:40:28<dumbgoy>https://www.courthousenews.com/new-york-federal-judge-shoots-down-online-e-book-lending
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23:08:09<pabs>TheTechRobo: hmm, I thought their emergency lending thing was still 1-to-1 but where the amount of lending was the same as the amount of books in closed libraries nation-wide?
23:09:04<@JAA>Let's keep the discussion about the IA suit in a single channel, shall we? → #internetarchive
23:10:26<pabs>k :)
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