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00:35:05<TheTechRobo>JAA, arkiver: Sounds good!
00:50:24<h2ibot>JustAnotherArchivist edited Issuu (+1697): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=49478&oldid=30144
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02:14:46<pabs>once the site comes back online, it clarkesworldmagazine.com should probably get archived, as they are inundated with ChatGPT spam https://twitter.com/clarkesworld/status/1627711728245960704 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34887478
02:17:11<pabs>hmm, https works but http doesn't...
02:18:27<pabs>oh, now their entire site is 403 with some sort of firewall enabled
02:18:42<pabs>aw "Your IP address was temporarily blocked by our IDS."
02:19:06<pabs>probably because I did wget without a U-A
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02:24:39<pabs>now they are back, going to AB
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02:34:01<TheTechRobo>Maybe we should add another "Project status" thing for when a service is partially going down, cutting functionality, or adding paywalls (like with Issuu)? "Special case" to me sounds like "the website is perfectly fine but we're archiving it anyway"
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07:46:26<pabs>https://techcrunch.com/2023/02/21/soylent-acquired-starco-brands-nutrition/
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13:08:58<audrooku|m>It's possible to grab warcs of individual pages directly from the wayback machine, right? How do you do that?
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15:57:29<@arkiver>kaz: HCross: are you able to reach rewby regarding issuu?
16:18:47<hitgrr8>Is there Flash archive for website banners and such that were on websites during early days?
16:19:13<hitgrr8>I hate that archive.org couldn't able to archive flash files in older websites :(
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19:51:43<@JAA>audrooku|m: No, that's not generally possible. A lot of data isn't publicly accessible.
19:52:23<@JAA>But you can see the item and WARC name in the response headers, and if it's in an open collection, you can access it that way. You'd still need to figure out where in the WARC the record is using the CDX.
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20:40:12<audrooku|m>..oh ;-;
20:40:44<audrooku|m>You can view the original webpage without the urls being changed to wayback versions at least though rightm
20:41:22<pokechu22>Yes
20:42:28<@arkiver>yes
20:42:37<pokechu22>https://web.archive.org/web/20230222093528/https://example.com/ for wayback toolbar, https://web.archive.org/web/20230222093528if_/https://example.com/ for no wayback toolbar but still links rewritten ("f" = frame, this is embedded by the other version), https://web.archive.org/web/20230222093528id_/https://example.com/ or
20:42:39<pokechu22>https://web.archive.org/web/20230222093528im_/https://example.com/ for no changing ("d" = data, "im" = image), there's a few other variants too
20:42:55<@arkiver>(was just about to write that, what pokechu22 says yes)
20:43:20<@arkiver>id_ is the general way of getting the original data
20:43:43<audrooku|m>Ooh, ok
20:45:11<pokechu22>Note that the link rewriting is important for things like CSS and images; compare https://web.archive.org/web/20230222092154if_/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page with https://web.archive.org/web/20230222092154id_/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page (I'm not 100% sure why *any* images work tbh)
20:45:50<pokechu22>Oh, right, also relative links - <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia" title="Wikipedia">Wikipedia</a> isn't going to work nicely
20:47:34<@JAA>The WBM does some weird magic for absolute URLs. That's why the images get redirected to snapshots.
20:47:55<@arkiver>*weird magic*
20:48:06<@arkiver>WBM is voodoo basically
20:48:57<@JAA>E.g. https://web.archive.org/static/images/icons/wikipedia.png redirects to https://web.archive.org/web/20230222092154/https://en.wikipedia.org/static/images/icons/wikipedia.png
20:49:14<@arkiver>oh *that* weird magic
20:49:18<@JAA>It's not referrer-based either.
20:49:24<pokechu22>For relative URLs, not absolute ones, right? Absolute ones are blocked by the content security policy or something like that?
20:50:36<@JAA>I mean relative URLs that are relative to the document root, yeah.
20:50:51<@JAA>My brain mixed that up with absolute paths. :-)
20:56:34<@JAA>Despite CSP, I've had WBM snapshots try to access external stuff before, by the way. uMatrix to the rescue.
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21:24:09<audrooku|m><pokechu22> "Note that the link rewriting..." <- > Note that the link rewriting is important for things like CSS and images
21:24:09<audrooku|m>Yes I understand, I'm interested in scraping some metadata from page archives
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22:33:26<h2ibot>Arkiver uploaded File:Issuu-icon.png: https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?title=File%3AIssuu-icon.png
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