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01:56:35<lennier1>If we're talking US law specifically, Section 230 should make the hoster immune from prosecution for content uploaded by users. In theory archived material could be used as evidence against the original uploader, but I don't know that that would be likely in practice if nothing happened on account of the original uploading itself, particularly since the archival process may lose non-public information about the uploader
01:56:35<lennier1>(e-mail, IP, etc.).
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03:28:10<fishingforsoup>It's that time again! That time where I bloat reddit with a wall of text about a useless and forgotten song!
03:28:11<fishingforsoup>https://www.reddit.com/r/Lostwave/comments/z1iy6n/fully_lost_a_lost_2007_japanese_idol_song_power/
03:32:23<ivan>your post was [removed]
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03:41:44<fishingforsoup>https://www.reddit.com/r/lostmedia/comments/z1j5aw/fully_lost_a_lost_2007_japanese_idol_song_power/
03:44:03<fishingforsoup>The other one isn't approved yet.
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06:27:56<schwarzkatz|m>lennier1, thank you for replying!
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06:43:05<upintheairsheep>27schwarzkatz - any content that violates privacy like doxxes are removed by request.
06:43:28<upintheairsheep>If that’s the content your talking about. What content in particular are you concerned about?
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15:17:01<schwarzkatz|m>upintheairsheep, I am guessing copyrighted stuff, but I don’t know for sure. But good to know that archive.org responds to these requests!
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16:12:30<NickNick>Ohh is there a matrix bridge for these channels?
16:17:28<Maakuth|m>Affirmative, I'm here through it
16:17:40<Maakuth|m>#archiveteam-bs:hackint.org
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17:38:11<@Sanqui>NickNick: Matrix space grouping allr ooms: https://matrix.to/#/#archive-team:matrix.org
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19:02:25<BlueCOokie>I read the tweet in the topic. I only half understand it.
19:02:34<BlueCOokie>I'm not a kid either
19:02:59<BlueCOokie>Is there a page documenting how to do "something" with FLICKR - YOUTUBE ANNOTATIONS - TUMBLR ?
19:03:08<BlueCOokie>how to help archive them, perhaps?
19:03:15<BlueCOokie>But I mainly wanted to ask about Twitter
19:03:56<madpro|m>I'm sorry, which Tweet?
19:04:07<BlueCOokie>The one in the topic: https://twitter.com/textfiles/status/1069715869994020867
19:04:49<madpro|m>Right
19:05:11<madpro|m>I guess we don't advertise it much on Twitter but Archive Team has a wiki
19:05:22<madpro|m>You can find most of the dumps on past projects linked to from here
19:05:39<BlueCOokie>Okay I've found the "get involved" part of the wiki now. It was cunningly hidden on the front page j/k
19:05:49<BlueCOokie>May I ask if you're archiving Twitter?
19:06:11<madpro|m>¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Me, personally? Not really/s
19:06:52<madpro|m>Preliminarily, there has only been some archiving of big accounts.
19:07:01<madpro|m>Politicians and Influencers, I guess.
19:07:11<madpro|m>Is that enough? No way!
19:07:19<BlueCOokie>Haha. How do we start archiving it now? I appreciate it's big, but at least could start with a place to submit accounts to archive
19:07:43<BlueCOokie>What resources do you need more of, and what do you have enough of?
19:07:49<madpro|m>But it seems to be the disbelief in the possibility of a total collapse that we haven't organised any larger-scoped project.
19:07:58<madpro|m>* due to
19:08:25<BlueCOokie>Well it wouldn't surprise me. That much
19:09:18<BlueCOokie>What are the bottlenecks? Human discussion/organising/decision making? Time it takes to download?
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19:11:51<madpro|m>All of the above? But more than anything it seems to be disinterest.
19:12:00<madpro|m>Hop on over to #archivebot if you have anything urgent in mind
19:12:17<madpro|m>No really, that's it
19:12:26<madpro|m>The technology is there, the discussion is here
19:13:03<madpro|m>But old #archivebot doesn't scan so much as scrape. So it is literally limited by people's interest in archiving things.
19:13:36<madpro|m>You have the right to look down upon us for being petty.
19:13:40<@JAA>They left.
19:13:46<madpro|m>Oh-
19:17:12<madpro|m>Well then, guess it's my turn
19:17:44<madpro|m>Someone told me this podcast site was shutting down https://www.cyberears.com/Welcome
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19:21:21<@JAA>Huh, only 37 podcasts? That's weird.
19:23:02<@JAA>Running through AB now, thanks!
19:27:14<schwarzkatz|m>very weird indeed, they have unlisted podcasts.
19:27:20<schwarzkatz|m>https://www.cyberears.com/Show/audio/6063 https://www.cyberears.com/Show/audio/6061
19:31:07<schwarzkatz|m>also, cyberears seems to be excluded from the WBM :/
19:32:47<schwarzkatz|m>something to add to the wiki I guess
19:34:21<@JAA>Yes please
19:35:12<schwarzkatz|m>done
19:35:26<schwarzkatz|m>will we get them anyways?
19:35:40<@JAA>Of course
19:36:10<@JAA>If anything, WBM exclusions are an extra motivation to archive such sites.
19:36:16<schwarzkatz|m>since it's (only) 4 digits, it shouldn't be too bad to bruteforce I guess
19:36:19<h2ibot>Schwarzkatz edited List of websites excluded from the Wayback Machine (+29, added cyberears.com to the list.): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=49180&oldid=49179
19:36:30<schwarzkatz|m>aha, so that's how it is :D
19:38:09<@JAA>I'll let the job run through and then look at the bruteforcing (with deduping against the main job).
19:39:18<schwarzkatz|m>nice
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20:00:22<h2ibot>JAABot edited List of websites excluded from the Wayback Machine (+0): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=49181&oldid=49180
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20:25:02<upintheairsheep>So, the problem is copyright. The Internet Archive seems to be exempted from DMCA for certain content: https://archive.org/about/dmca.php
20:27:09<upintheairsheep>Web Archives in general are legal and are exempt from most forms of copyright, and are useful for actual legal evidence, so even if they get sued for books, the web archive has been used in legal cases many times, and would make no sense to remove it.
20:27:48<upintheairsheep>See https://law.stackexchange.com/questions/27407/how-is-internet-archiving-legal-when-it-appears-to-violate-many-websites-terms
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20:30:36<schwarzkatz|m>I don't think there will be any problems anyways. That's some useful info nonetheless! thanks for posting, upintheairsheep
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23:07:51<schwarzkatz|m>JAA, do you think archiving the application/* files from uploadir (the ones that require a session would be possible?
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23:29:14<@arkiver>schwarzkatz|m: got examples?
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