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00:02:14<pabs>slashdot RSS feed :)
00:02:32<pabs>is there a "websites shutting down" reddit?
00:03:27<@JAA>Well, not really, but there's the mostly-dead /r/shutdown, which is where I got it from.
00:13:49<madpro|m>pabs: I hear someone might be working on it ¬‿¬
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01:59:59<@arkiver>JAA: do we have lacartoonerie covered with archivebot or similar?
02:03:08<@JAA>arkiver: Not yet. schwarzkatz|m grabbed it independently, but that'll be a random WARC. I'll throw it into AB.
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08:42:35<schwarzkatz|m>I got some 500s apparently when I checked the warc in replayweb, I am sure AB does a better job than me anyways :D
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08:46:59<schwarzkatz|m>Oh and the styling looked very off at some pages, not sure what happened there either
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17:17:27<upintheairsheep>Just reminding you again, Samsung's online version of their Smart TV and BluRay app store is starting to break. https://www.samsung.com/us/appstore/browse
17:17:53<upintheairsheep>Anyone here to create a scraper for this decomposing site?
17:18:44<upintheairsheep>It appears to be breaking down and lacking javascript for me, the wayback machine, and Appetize.io, however Archive.TODAY manages to render the site for some reason.
17:19:18<upintheairsheep>Also see https://github.com/mikf/gallery-dl/issues/3069
17:19:58<upintheairsheep>A single app link is https://www.samsung.com/us/appstore/app/000000019659 while it has a subpage at https://www.samsung.com/us/appstore/app/000000019659-compatible showing a list of compatible television models.
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17:20:54<upintheairsheep>The first link should display a full list of every app
17:21:30<upintheairsheep>The site hosts screenshots, basic metadata, icons, and compatible models of samsung smart tv apps, even delisted and unreleased ones.
17:21:42<upintheairsheep>https://9to5google.com/2022/10/18/google-meet-samsung-tv-listing/
17:22:17<upintheairsheep>The site was recently on the news after someone discovered an unreleased Google Meet app on the website.
17:22:39<@Sanqui>the app links are already showing 404 to me
17:22:59<upintheairsheep>Can I see?
17:23:04<upintheairsheep>Send me a screenshot
17:23:47<@Sanqui>sure. https://sanqui.net/etc/Screenshot%20from%202022-11-16%2018-23-33.png
17:24:06<upintheairsheep>What region are you in?
17:24:12<@Sanqui>CZ (EU)
17:24:39<@Sanqui>the app store homepage does load and list a few apps, with no styling.
17:25:04<upintheairsheep>I think you should try replacing "us" with "cz"
17:25:34<upintheairsheep>Same happens to me on the styling issue
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17:26:15<@Sanqui>https://www.samsung.com/cz/appstore/browse/ is a localized 404
17:26:39<upintheairsheep>OK, but can you try to reverse engineer the browse page?
17:27:50<upintheairsheep>https://archive.ph/F8qbq strangely, the only proxy i tried that styled was archive.ph
17:29:28<upintheairsheep>view-source:https://archive.ph/F8qbq
17:30:08<upintheairsheep>Seems more mature, I wonder if it is a proxy into the philippines that works, or just the lack of JS
17:30:32<upintheairsheep>https://archive.ph/wip/MmpVK
17:30:34<ThreeHM_>Weird, it stopped showing the 404 for me after deleting cookies
17:30:37<upintheairsheep>Trying an app
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17:30:45<upintheairsheep>can I see?
17:31:30<ThreeHM>Just showing the (mostly) broken page now
17:31:35<upintheairsheep>I deleted the cookies for Samsung's website and still get a mangled page
17:32:03<ThreeHM>It's still broken, but it was giving me a 404 page before that
17:32:12<upintheairsheep>archive.today seems to render these pages for some reason, even today
17:32:54<upintheairsheep>https://archive.ph/MmpVK
17:33:12<upintheairsheep>The site also renders app pages well
17:33:22<upintheairsheep>https://archive.ph/F8qbq
17:33:34<upintheairsheep>The browse too, if you didn't see
17:35:06<upintheairsheep>I kinda want to go to Samsung's feedback tab to fix it, but I don't want to draw attention to it and lead to it's deletion
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17:39:12<upintheairsheep>Anyone willing to create a scraper?
17:42:58<upintheairsheep>https://github.com/JustAnotherArchivist/snscrape/issues/591
17:45:08<@JAA>upintheairsheep: snscrape is not a generic scraper. Don't do that again.
17:45:19<upintheairsheep>OK, sorry.
17:47:06<upintheairsheep>So this should definitely be a seperate project.
17:47:48<upintheairsheep>After scraping all URLs, should we add the list of links to the URLs project or a seperate project?
17:52:09<upintheairsheep>Possible project channels: #samsungsharttv or just #sharttv , #samsinging , #honeyibrokethescreen , #wellguysiguessthatsit (kinda a bit insensitive, last words of a guy that took his life while a Samsung ringtone played and became a joke in some places)
17:52:29<upintheairsheep>Which one do you want to claim?
17:52:42<upintheairsheep>Make sure to matrix bridge it first!
17:53:43<upintheairsheep>Samsung XR was #sandsung on efnet so we might reuse that name
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17:55:18<theblazehen|m>> (kinda a bit insensitive, last words of a guy that took his life while a Samsung ringtone played and became a joke in some places)
17:55:18<theblazehen|m>Just watched it again, that poor cat 😢 Just walking in there
17:56:36<upintheairsheep>I think it was a dog, but off topic.
17:57:19<upintheairsheep>So which one should we use?
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17:57:50<theblazehen|m>I personally like #sharttv
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18:00:23<lennier1>Is there a way to download the apps themselves to a PC?
18:03:17<upintheairsheep>No, but I plan on decrypting a firmware ofa smasung tv and reverse engineering it!
18:03:31<upintheairsheep>We should bridge sharttv or whatever to matrix
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18:24:54<upintheairsheep>Can we bridge sharttv to matrix or log it?
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18:26:39<kiska>To log a channel just invite kiskaLogBot
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18:40:33<@JAA>We don't log project channels though.
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19:36:54<upintheairsheep>oh, you don't log project channels, my bad
19:46:23<upintheairsheep>Note: #sharttv it is for the Samsung Smart TV webstore.
19:48:16<upintheairsheep>So, for the samsung smart tv web interface, is anyone developing a sort of scraper tool or a new archive branch?
19:50:31<upintheairsheep>For the apps themselves, there existed a website that mirrored the site called ULango UserAppStore https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYgWdwxK3ls
19:52:01<upintheairsheep>However, ULango's main service is primarily intended for copyright infringement, leading to it getting taken down by the ACE.
19:53:06<upintheairsheep>I contacted the man asking for the app archive, but he said his hard drive with the Samsung Smart TV apps got taken into court for digital forensics use, and will be returned when the case closes.
19:55:02<upintheairsheep>He said he does not have any motivation for UserAppStore due to Tizen, however will sell the code and release the smart tv apps to the internet archive
20:05:56<upintheairsheep>arkiver can you make a script to archive the samsung smart tv app store web interface? See https://hackint.logs.kiska.pw/archiveteam-bs/20221116
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21:18:08<upintheairsheep-temp>function fn_pageKeyMove(data) { $("input[name=pageNo]").val(data); fn_doSubmit(); } function fn_pageMove(data) { var pageNum = $("#pageMoveDown").val(); if(data == 'prev') pageNum = parseInt(pageNum) - 1; else pageNum = parseInt(pageNum) + 1; $("input[name=pageNo]").val(pageNum); fn_doSubmit(); } function
21:18:08<upintheairsheep-temp>fn_perPage(data) { var form = document.getElementById("browse_form"); $("input[name=perPage]").val(data); $("input[name=pageNo]").val(1); fn_doSubmit(); } function fn_category(data) { $("input[name=cateSort]").val("All"); $("input[name=deviceOn]").val(""); $("input[name=pageNo]").val(1);
21:18:09<upintheairsheep-temp>$("input[name=priceOn]").val("All"); $("input[name=perPage]").val("20"); $("input[name=category]").val(data); $("input[name=inputPos]").val("T"); fn_doSubmit(); } function fn_sort(data) { $("input[name=pageNo]").val(1); $("input[name=sortType]").val(data); fn_doSubmit(); } function fn_dropCate(data) {
21:18:09<upintheairsheep-temp>$("input[name=pageNo]").val(1); $("input[name=cateSort]").val(data); fn_doSubmit(); } function fn_price(data) { $("input[name=pageNo]").val(1); $("input[name=priceOn]").val(data); fn_doSubmit(); } function fn_doSubmit() { //var deviceOnStr = $("input[name=deviceOn]").val(); //deviceOnStr =
21:18:10<upintheairsheep-temp>encodeURIComponent(deviceOnStr); //deviceOnStr = deviceOnStr.replace(/-/g,'DEVICEON'); //$("input[name=deviceOn]").val(deviceOnStr); var code = $("input[name=sortType]").val(); $("input[name=sortType]").val(getSortByName(code)); var f = document.browse_form; f.sortType.value = getSortByName(code); f.method = "post"; f.action
21:18:10<upintheairsheep-temp>= "/us/appstore/browse"; f.submit(); openOverlay(); } function fn_cleanDevice() { $("input[name=cateSort]").val(""); $("input[name=pageNo]").val(1); $("input[name=deviceOn]").val(""); $("input[name=perPage]").val("20"); fn_doSubmit(); }
21:18:33<TheTechRobo>Please don't flood chat
21:18:41<TheTechRobo>use pastebin or transfer instead
21:19:00<upintheairsheep-temp>Found the necessary HTML code to reverse engineer the store.
21:19:23<upintheairsheep-temp>Sorry for flooding, will use pastebin next time.
21:19:54<upintheairsheep-temp>I didn't know most IRC clients do not format it correctly, my bad
21:20:25<upintheairsheep-temp>https://pastebin.com/dkh125zU
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21:22:58<upintheairsheep-temp>May you please update the Current Projects page to include the #sharttv project?
21:24:11<@arkiver>upintheairsheep-temp: don't post your code like that here
21:24:20<@arkiver>make a txt file or so, upload somewhere, and post here
21:24:32<TheTechRobo>(they posted https://pastebin.com/dkh125zU )
21:24:37<@arkiver>thanks
21:24:40<@arkiver>let's see what this is about
21:24:51<TheTechRobo>upintheairsheep-temp: is that just extracted from the website?
21:24:53<upintheairsheep-temp>This isn't my code, it is the samsung html code
21:24:58<upintheairsheep-temp>yes
21:25:16<upintheairsheep-temp>See https://hackint.logs.kiska.pw/archiveteam-bs/20221116
21:28:36<@arkiver>Sanqui: did they return actual 404 status code to you for that 404 page?
21:29:33<@Sanqui>yes https://www.samsung.com/us/appstore/app/000000019659 is a real 404 (and 137 tracking requests)
21:29:35<upintheairsheep-temp>app links are at /html/body/div[2]/div[1]/div/form/div/div/div[2]/div[3]/div[1]/ul[1]/li[1]/a
21:29:47<upintheairsheep-temp>or //*[@id="results-section"]/div[1]/ul[1]/li[1]/a
21:29:54<upintheairsheep-temp>bye
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21:30:01<@Sanqui>bye
21:31:59<@arkiver>bye
21:32:02<@arkiver>not sure what to make of this
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21:42:32<@arkiver>schwarzkatz|m: if we cannot contact uploadir, not sure if we can do much
21:42:35<@arkiver>there's a ton of IDs
21:42:48<@arkiver>maybe they have a twitter account we can contact?
21:43:12<@arkiver>https://twitter.com/uploadir
21:43:43<@arkiver>could someone with a twitter account contact them please? about deletion of their materials - and if we could get a list of existing IDs
21:43:54<@arkiver>you can always send them arkiver@protonmail.com as well
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21:58:26<lennier1>The Samsung website does seem pretty broken--can't get the app browsing to work correctly, not sure if there's any way around that. App IDs seem to a significant extent like they could be brute forced. A lot are something like "000000019669" or "G00000202034". But I did also see a "G15181003227" which is obviously much larger. I don't know if that's actually random or there's some meaning to the "G15181" beginning.
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23:22:30<upintheairsheep>Remember the sharttv project, if your a programmer, archive.today works for some reason, see https://archive.ph/F8qbq
23:24:23<upintheairsheep>I discovered that analyzing the code, page traversal is based on headers
23:25:10<upintheairsheep>Also see https://pastebin.com/dkh125zU
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23:46:01<upintheairsheep>Can somebody update the site’s current projects list to include the #sharttv project
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