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00:27:59<h2ibot>Arkiver uploaded File:Heroku-icon.png: https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?title=File%3AHeroku-icon.png
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01:07:22<pabs>debtags.debian.org is in danger of being shut down https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/20221019132043.d4c4liyt6s6qewgy@enricozini.org
01:07:50<pabs>sso.d.o too but that doesn't have any content https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/20221016172228.5rhbmdl6ogjfjqbo@enricozini.org
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01:36:42<@OrIdow6^2>Has anything happened on the Crunchyroll forums?
01:36:54<@OrIdow6^2>Shutting down Nov 1
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03:18:11<fishingforpie>Does anyone know how to download the image that is the top banner here?
03:18:12<fishingforpie>irc://irc.hackint.org/
03:18:19<fishingforpie>Err, https://web.archive.org/web/20120118055647/http://ameblo.jp/seira-sakuragi/
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03:52:17<Jake>https://web.archive.org/web/20130627050544im_/http://stat100.ameba.jp/p_skin/official_a/seira-sakuragi/img/header.jpg
04:00:31<fishingforpie>Thanks!
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13:31:25<joepie91|m>https://www.deoplosmiddelspecialist.nl should probably be thrown into archivebot or so - company has gone bankrupt and it has some historical significance in NL
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13:56:30<Ryz>Hello joepie91|m - regarding https://www.deoplosmiddelspecialist.nl/ - do you have a link or source for said bankruptcy?
14:09:16<joepie91|m>Ryz: https://www.faillissementsdossier.nl/nl/faillissement/1696228/jagro-solutions-b-v.aspx
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14:10:15<joepie91|m>historical significance is primarily their role in the controversy here around 'illegal euthanasia', though also more generally there's a curious history to it
14:11:44<Ryz>Ah wow, I would've outright ignored it because of too many spammy websites on drugs otherwise Oo;
14:12:45<joepie91|m>oh yeah it looks incredibly sketch but was actually a legitimate chemical supplier
14:13:02<joepie91|m>but I'll keep the details for -ot :)
14:13:29<Ryz>Yeah, this is good stuff on finding bankrupt companies like this, and a potentially new source too~
14:14:46<joepie91|m>I discovered it by accident; was comparing their IPA prices to another supplier, suddenly noticed the "temporarily closed" banner at the top, started asking around, found claims on review sites of them having gone bankrupt, and then someone turned up that filing
14:22:43<Ryz>Oh nice, an accidental find, yay!
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14:33:49<Ryz>Who is working on the Crunchyroll forums? Since it's gonna die in 2022 November 01?
14:34:20<Ryz>This unfortunately doesn't work well with ArchiveBot without a ton of ignores because of the various sections
14:35:27<Ryz>https://www.crunchyroll.com/forumtopic-1076652/announcement-forum-legacy-features-going-away-on-november-1st-2022
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16:44:04<h2ibot>Nemo bis edited Miraheze (-1, /* Backups */ typo): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=49116&oldid=49114
16:44:45<@JAA>pabs: So about debtags.d.o, is that the only place where the tags live, or is it just the only place where people can edit them?
16:45:04<h2ibot>Nemo bis edited Miraheze (+2, /* Backups */…): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=49117&oldid=49116
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18:28:22<sembiance>:)
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20:06:22<@OrIdow6^2>Ryz: How many is a ton?
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20:52:20<Ryz>OrIdow6^2, thing is, it's more than just the forums,
20:54:26<Ryz>Checking https://www.crunchyroll.com/forumtopic-1076652/announcement-forum-legacy-features-going-away-on-november-1st-2022 - there's Library, User Photo Albums, User Groups, Favorite Groups, and Custom Avatars
20:54:40<Ryz>Some of which look like they belong to the forums, but others seem uhh, separate
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21:18:40<pabs>JAA: debtags.d.o is indeed the edit site. in theory the tags are on packages.debian.org too, but that is all kinds of broken. they are also in the Debian repo tho, which is backed up to snapshot.d.o. there may be things on the site that aren't backed up, like the vocabulary. either way I'd suggest a copy of the site so there is a record of what the site was like
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21:36:56<pabs>JAA: btw, I was thinking all mailman2 sites should be considered at-risk and thrown into AB. needs some Googling to find their domains, but at minimum, lists.ubuntu.com.
21:37:27<pabs>mailing lists in general and mail in general should probably be considered at-risk too :)
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22:26:35<@OrIdow6^2>Ryz: yeah, but it looks like the forums are the biggest
22:27:40<@OrIdow6^2>I don't think I have time to write a project for the next few days
22:28:19<@OrIdow6^2>And I don't think we know how well it would do under a bunch of last-minute load
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22:28:37<@OrIdow6^2>last-few-days, I should say
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22:29:10<@JAA>Post IDs go to 59 million, eww...
22:29:57<@JAA>It's already quite unresponsive it seems. Pages take seconds to load.
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22:31:15<@JAA>pabs: Yeah, I certainly don't disagree with your assessments. :-)
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22:33:12<@OrIdow6^2>JAA: It seems like for me they're not so slow some of the time
22:33:21<@OrIdow6^2>Varying over time, not page
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22:37:20<balrog>I wouldn't necessarily consider all mailman2 lists as at-risk, but they're small space-wise and relatively easy to archive, usually
22:37:33<balrog>also if you chuck AB at them, it will get the zipped archives
22:37:45<balrog>err, gzipped
22:37:46<balrog>e.g. https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-users/
22:38:06<balrog>might take a while for the individual messages though
22:40:48<@OrIdow6^2>Or maybe it is per page, I can't quite see a pattern in this
22:42:22<pabs>balrog: I would because mailman2 is EOL and only supports Python 2, which is EOL. so sysadmins will be looking at moving away from mailman2, usually to mailman3, breaking archive links in the process and having a more JS/CSS intensive interface :)
22:42:44<balrog>I haven't seen site moving, and I (and I'm sure many others) hate the mailman3 archive interface
22:43:15<balrog>mailman2 seems to be still getting updates
22:43:22<pabs>examples: lists.torproject.org is moving or shutting down, mail.gnome.org is being shut down. lists.gag.com just got deleted entirely
22:44:01<Ryz>Mailman 3, only JS, imagine that s:
22:44:12<pabs>not only JS, but more JS-intensive
22:45:37<pabs>btw, could someone AB gag.com? the person just deleted lists.gag.com rather than keeping archives and the person's age is reasonably high
22:45:49<balrog>what the mailman3 interface looks like https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/infrastructure@lists.fedoraproject.org/2022/6/
22:46:36<@JAA>Replies don't work at all without JS, FWIW.
22:46:58<@JAA>You can still download the thread as an mbox file though.
22:47:51<@JAA>It's better than some other 'modern' interfaces. But yeah, not a great fan either.
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23:50:44<h2ibot>JustAnotherArchivist edited Miraheze (+45, Clarify situation on their XML dumps on IA): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=49118&oldid=49117
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