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00:24:09<Ryz>Want this stuff to be arrrcccccccchived, website's been around since 1996 damnit <#>;
00:24:15<Ryz>Old loooooooot
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00:52:06<Guac>Anyone here know someone who tries to keep archives of of prominent alt-right figures' online communications (including Youtube vids where applicable)? Trying to find a copy of a YouTube vid from 2017ish from an account that was suspended by 2019
01:06:22<joepie91|m>usually searching for the raw youtube ID (without the rest of the URL) tends to turn up archives for me, or at least something like a title that I can use to find a copy elsewhere
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04:03:33<Billy549>Good very early morning! Just wondering if any planned action is coming for GameFAQs? :)
04:08:54<@OrIdow6>I don't believe so Billy549
04:10:16<Billy549>OrIdow6, I see - I know some people were trying to archive it directly through Web Archive, but seems GameFAQs already blocked the IPs
04:11:01<@OrIdow6>I don't think we've seen an indication of changes to the site yet
04:11:51<Billy549>That's a fair point, resources are spread too thin anyway I suppose - this just reminds me I need to set Warrior back up on my machine so gonna do that now. Thanks for the info at least :)
04:15:18<@OrIdow6>You're welcome
04:16:05<@OrIdow6>Please do tell us if the site (or any other sites) undergo substantial changes in the future etc.
04:18:01<Billy549>Of course :)
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04:55:56<Guac>Hm. Good bit of advice joepie91|m though it mostly turned up research papers that referenced the youtube link. It did also lead to a forum post that had some bits of description of part of the vid.
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14:17:06<thuban>fenugrec: that wiki page is rather old (for one thing, we usually suggest https://github.com/ArchiveTeam/grab-site rather than wget these days). unfortunately, we don't currently have a good mechanism for bypassing that type of cloudflare protection--the best i can suggest is setting a browser user-agent and a generous timeout and hoping that it doesn't trigger.
14:24:27<thuban>we have definitely had Discussions™ on the increasing prevalence of this and the practicality of various possible workarounds, but nothing concrete yet. may i ask what forum?
14:27:18<thuban>(the message about timestamping is harmless--'-m' is shorthand for several options, including timestamping, but it's the others we care(d) about)
14:28:15<fenugrec>thuban, thanks. Will try grabsite later today. I might try through a proxy too although IME that usually triggers clownflare even more. The forum is forum.tek.com
14:30:35<fenugrec>they already bodged previous migrations / updates , there are many broken links already, so I'm fairly certain they will not even try to migrate it again to a new platform
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14:38:26<thuban>shutdown date is "before the end of the year", for reference https://forum.tek.com/viewtopic.php?f=583&p=291164
14:38:28<thuban>(Jake: want to try that go crawler of yours?)
14:42:41<h2ibot>Switchnode edited Deathwatch (+183, /* 2022 */ add tektronix forums): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=49051&oldid=49049
14:43:20<betamax>Do we have a way to archive specific sub-forums of a vBulletin forum?
14:43:51<betamax>The "Vintage Radio Forums" have a section for members to sell or give away equipment to each other
14:44:03<betamax>but it seems it will now be subject to a 90-day deletion rule: https://www.vintage-radio.net/forum/showthread.php?t=194887
14:44:45<betamax>Any way that the specific sub-forum in question ( https://www.vintage-radio.net/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=27 ) can be archived?
14:45:13<betamax>This is going to happen imminently, if it hasn't already happened.
14:48:33<thuban>betamax: i don't think there's a _good_ way, but i've done it on xenforo by (iirc) spidering just the thread list pages for that subforum, ignoring everything else, and then extracting the threads from the list of ignored urls and queueing each individually with no-parent
14:54:00<thuban>ah, yep: https://hackint.logs.kiska.pw/archiveteam-bs/20210430#c283892
14:54:53<thuban>vbulletin has equivalent url structure
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15:00:41<ivan>Guac should've been linked https://findyoutubevideo.thetechrobo.ca/
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15:21:45<thuban>hmmmm, no it doesn't actually. (sorry, the forum i checked that i thought was vbulletin is actually also xenforo now.) its threads are 'showthread.php?t=threadid&page=pageid', so --no-parent won't prevent wpull from recursing into other threads or indeed most of the forum ui (you can manage the latter with aggressive ignores but not the former).
15:24:29<thuban>write a qwarc script, i guess? (if you're not too concerned about page requisites)
15:24:47<@JAA>betamax: Two-step process: run a crawl with tight ignores that only permits forumdisplay.php with f=27. Then extract thread links from that and retrieve those, either by building a list with all pages (I think vB always links the last page, so you can generate the missing page URLs) or in theory by further ignores that only permit the relevant thread IDs.
15:25:11<@JAA>Also, looks like the deletion already happened, oldest thread I'm shown is from July.
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15:40:19<thuban>yeah, that's probably a better idea actually. still some scripting involved, but probably less, plus you get page requisites
15:40:24<thuban>(to be clear, when i said you 'can't' manage thread selection with ignores, i meant _a priori_)
15:40:37<thuban>i would just generate the missing pages, since that way you can use --1 and not have to worry about ignoring every other damn thing
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16:21:25<@JAA>Yep, agreed. The scripting can be a relatively simple grep + awk or similar. In case there's Transfer-Encoding, `warc-tiny dump-responses` (from my little-things repo) handles that.
16:22:30<thuban>https://transfer.archivete.am/sEcYz/generate_vbulletin_pageurls.sh
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16:25:06<thuban>(using gs-dump-urls, for convenience)
16:25:39<@JAA>Oh right, the URLs are in the DB anyway, yeah, that's even easier. :-)
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19:20:21<tzt>https://www.theverge.com/2022/10/4/23387510/facebook-meta-bulletin-newsletter-substack-shutdown
19:20:58<tzt>bulletin.com is shutting down 'early 2023'
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21:44:56<@arkiver>tzt: please add it to the deathwatch page!
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21:44:59<@arkiver>or someone else ^\
21:45:03<@arkiver>or someone else ^
21:46:59<@JAA>Oh wait, '*by* early 2023', not 'in'. So we should move quickly on that one.
21:47:13<h2ibot>JustAnotherArchivist edited Deathwatch (+172, /* 2023 */ Add Bulletin): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=49052&oldid=49051
21:48:13<h2ibot>JustAnotherArchivist edited Deathwatch (+3, /* Pining for the Fjords (Dying) */ Move…): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=49053&oldid=49052
21:49:13<h2ibot>IDKhowToEdit edited Twitter (-72, Removes ChromeBot): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=49054&oldid=48258
21:49:14<h2ibot>Usernam edited List of websites excluded from the Wayback Machine/Partial exclusions (+39): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=49055&oldid=49016
22:03:47<Jake>thuban: yes. Will give it a shot tonight.
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22:56:43<Ono>Does this work
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22:57:34<@JAA>oh no

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