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01:42:13<Noobgamer0111>Hey guys, I'm looking for the file for https://github.com/ArchiveTeam/theartistunion-items
01:42:27<Noobgamer0111>But I can't find a link to access the actual files.
01:44:33<@JAA>Noobgamer0111: It's in the Wayback Machine. Is there anything specific you're looking for?
01:45:47<Noobgamer0111>JAA, I'm looking for this track. 519533 - https://soundcloud.com/2scratch/wiz-khalifa-ass-drop-2scratch-remix
01:46:12<Noobgamer0111>I tried a metadata search, nothing came up.
01:49:00<@JAA>https://web.archive.org/web/20190715135732/https://d2tml28x3t0b85.cloudfront.net/tracks/stream_files/000/254/959/original/Wiz%20Khalifa%20-%20Ass%20Drop%20%282SCRATCH%20Remix%29%22FREE%20DOWNLOAD%20%22.mp3?1466635196
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01:51:07<Noobgamer0111>Bloody legend. Is there a version in WAV?
01:51:37<@JAA>Nope, looks like that's the original file that was uploaded to The Artist Union.
01:52:49<@JAA>Although I'm not quite sure. That one was a bit of a weird project.
01:52:56<Noobgamer0111>I did find a steam community post about this same track. It's a 1:30 excerpt from the 5:19 track in WAV. https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2003293103
01:53:07<@JAA>Hmm
01:53:41<Noobgamer0111>I used the gcfscape tool to extract it from the vpk file.
01:56:56<@JAA>Yeah, there is a WAV, actually. Second...
01:57:47<@JAA>https://web.archive.org/web/20190715135739/https://d2tml28x3t0b85.cloudfront.net/tracks/original_files/000/254/959/original/Wiz%20Khalifa%20-%20Ass%20Drop%20(2SCRATCH%20Remix)%22FREE%20DOWNLOAD%20%22.wav
01:58:04<@JAA>*That* is the original file. :-)
01:59:30<Noobgamer0111>If I could kiss you, I would! Thanks mate. I'll be reuploading it to MediaFire on the artist's page.
01:59:37<@JAA>Also, here's the artwork that was on Artist Union: https://web.archive.org/web/20190715135729/https://d2tml28x3t0b85.cloudfront.net/tracks/artworks/000/254/959/original/519533.jpeg?1466635177
02:00:16<Noobgamer0111>Many thanks, JAA!
02:00:19<@JAA>And a bit of metadata: https://web.archive.org/web/20190715135717/https://theartistunion.com/api/v3/tracks/519533.json
02:01:34<@JAA>Maybe we should create a proper index for this collection.
02:01:57<Noobgamer0111>Yeah, that would be much appreciated.
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02:04:31<h2ibot>JustAnotherArchivist edited The Artist Union (+54, Add IA collection): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=48825&oldid=47565
02:04:32<h2ibot>JustAnotherArchivist edited The Artist Union (-3, Update status): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=48826&oldid=48825
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04:20:04<pabs>https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/08/code-speech-and-tornado-cash-mixer https://twitter.com/matthew_d_green/status/1561813046338748417 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32558012
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12:50:02<Icyelut>So, Blingee no longer allows new accounts to be created and there's differing reports as to whether the editor still works (using a flash-enabled browser, of course). Was the editor itself ever archived?
12:58:17<Maakuth|m>https://ia601401.us.archive.org/32/items/murolinks/index.html hehe, it works, try with postid 1706505145
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15:41:03<@arkiver>Maakuth|m: pretty awesome :)
15:41:14<@arkiver>we should do something like that for all our projects
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16:02:36<WesleyBidsnipes>What sorts of things is ArchiveTeam interested in archiving? Like, is it “anything that won’t get us in copyright trouble”?
16:03:40<WesleyBidsnipes>For instance, last night I figured out how to download the Wall Street Journal, pdfs of the papers. I haven’t found the exact date, but I can get issues all the way back to 2013 or so.
16:04:16<WesleyBidsnipes>Hell, USA Today too, for that matter… the script works with any newspaper that uses Newsmemory for their online “e-edition” stuff.
16:05:15<WesleyBidsnipes>I was wondering if those would be feasible, maybe if you made a point of only getting the month-old issues… it’d not cost them any sales at that point that I could imagine.
16:06:28<Ryz>Hello WesleyBidsnipes, please stay put as someone will talk to you as soon as possible, since the amount of people that are available and active can vary~
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16:13:19<WesleyBidsnipes>I’ll be here for a few hours/days/weeks. No hurry.
16:20:20<WesleyBidsnipes>I also propose that if the other newspapers are problematic from a legal standpoint, it might be possible to archive recently defunct newspapers… Rocky Mountain Times was one of the two big daily papers in Denver Colorado until it went out of business… a few others also survived until relatively recently (Cincinnati Post was the afternoon, now only Cincy Enquirer, the morning paper, is still around).
16:20:32<WesleyBidsnipes>I have access to RMN back to about 2004, I think.
16:25:16<Nemo_bis>omg we got pretty URLs on the wiki https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/Quora
16:25:52<Jake>hmm?
16:29:35<thuban>as opposed to http://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Quora, i presume
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16:42:48<TheTechRobo>JAA: Where'd you get that link to the WAV file...? I can't find it mentioned at https://web.archive.org/web/20190715135717if_/https://theartistunion.com/api/v3/tracks/519533.json
16:43:35<@JAA>TheTechRobo: That's because it isn't mentioned anywhere. As I said, that project was weird. I looked at the CDX.
16:44:16<TheTechRobo>Ah.
16:44:25<TheTechRobo>How was the WAV discovered, then?
16:45:06<@JAA>Via a POST request sent by the pipeline with a hardcoded session ID. :-)
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16:48:05<@JAA>I think we didn't have the ability to do POST requests like that from within wget-at (or maybe even still wget-lua?) at the time, so that's how that was hacked in.
16:48:19<@JAA>The POST request isn't in the WARC, so yeah, it's a mess.
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16:48:58<TheTechRobo>Great. :/
16:49:10<TheTechRobo>I was wonderign why http://web.archive.org/web/2if_/https://theartistunion.com/api/v3/tracks/519533/download.json didn't work.
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17:36:53<Maakuth|m>arkiver: I'll try to make a readme a bit more informative and add some reusage docs, so it's easier to deploy
17:37:05<Maakuth|m>At some point... A bit busy this week
17:43:57<@JAA>WesleyBidsnipes: This sounds tempting but yeah, potentially problematic. Might need to embargo the data or similar. I'll creep into your PMs later if you don't mind.
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18:44:17<WesleyBidsnipes>No problem JAA. But in my personal stuff, I’ve wanted to get digital newspapers for a long while now, it’s been a problem I’ve been working on and off for several years. I consider it both a more manageable problem than archiving the news websites, and higher quality (they reserve the most important stories for the print paper, even today).
18:46:13<@JAA>Aye. FWIW, we are grabbing anything significant from news websites already via #//. IIRC, we're retrieving the homepages regularly (hourly?) and then following links on them. We also archive any links encountered on Reddit through that. But yeah, that's orthogonal to getting the print edition, and I fully agree.
18:56:04<WesleyBidsnipes>Well, my NAS is modest. I was thinking about trying to get the top 20 US newspapers, maybe the world top 20, and a few select smalltown weeklies. But I’ve been learning about “newspaper software”, and I’m familiar with those that market to those as well… the weeklies and biweeklies. Etype Services comes to mind, it’s fairly easy to grab those too. Town News is another one. But for storage capacity, I’d be getting them all.
18:56:51<WesleyBidsnipes>For instance, 2021 Chicago Tribune was 35 gigs or so, just for one year’s worth. Though Houston Chronicle is only about 5.2 gigs for the same year.
18:57:33<WesleyBidsnipes>The software Tribune uses has decided that all pdfs need to be rendered with the highest resolution jpegs for the photography, and if it’s a configuration setting I can modify I haven’t discovered which parameter to do it with.
18:59:13<@JAA>Great for archival though! :-)
19:00:09<WesleyBidsnipes>Well true, but I’m still limited by the 8 bays my latest NAS has. Maybe if Samsun ever releases those100tb SSDs they keep talking about.
19:01:00<@JAA>Nimbus Data has had one for years. Slightly expensive though.
19:02:04<@JAA>It was 'contact us for pricing' until earlier this year, which is how you know it'll be ridiculously expensive. They since released the price tag of $40k for the 100 TB version.
19:02:37<@JAA>(It has unlimited endurance rating because you literally cannot wear out the flash within the warranty period due to SATA being too slow.)
19:02:56<@JAA>Anyway...
19:04:16<WesleyBidsnipes>Yeh, need to get that dollar-per-terabyte a little lower before I can start using those, I guess.
19:07:38<nyuuzyou>I think I'll get to it soon
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