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00:35:52<pabs>this person is controversial and got physically attacked recently http://salmanrushdie.com/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salman_Rushdie https://www.cnbc.com/2022/08/12/salman-rushdie-attacked-during-panel-in-western-new-york-report-says.html
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08:52:16<joepie91|m><Maakuth|m> "hmmh. is there a way to rebuild..." <- "rebuild" in what sense?
08:52:19<Maakuth|m><joepie91|m> ""rebuild" in what sense?" <- those urls were not captured with qwarc
08:52:19<Maakuth|m>However they are not independent pages, just redirects to posts with those ids. And the ids are in the data. I'm thinking of writing a one-off script to restore those
08:52:19<Maakuth|m>JAA: suggestions if I end up cooking that? would something like a CSV file with posts/id url and the target url cut it?
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10:03:22<@JAA>Maakuth|m: You can't really 'restore' them in the sense of 'make them work in the Wayback Machine'. That would involve creating fake WARC records, which is something nobody should ever do for any reason.
10:04:09<@JAA>So the best you can do is create an index of post IDs and a separate service that redirects to the corresponding thread URL in the WBM. As a data backing for that, yeah, I suppose a CSV would be just fine.
10:05:05<madpro|m>Maakuth: There are, however, WARC players outside of the IA like https://github.com/webrecorder/replayweb.page
10:05:07<@JAA>It would probably be possible to do this in a way that it's just static files stored at the Internet Archive so that there's no risk of this service disappearing in the future (unless IA disappears, in which case, welp...).
10:05:24<madpro|m>It's just that you yourself would have to act as the data provider
10:05:40<@JAA>Yeah, that's a thing, but still don't create fake WARCs.
10:11:13<@Kaz>whats happening here, why's everyone suddenly got |m at the end of their name
10:11:37<@JAA>Matrix bridge
10:12:02<@Kaz>oh that might explain the weird reply formatting thing that joepie91|m and Maakuth|m were doing too then
10:12:09<@Kaz>grim
10:12:20<madpro|m>For you see
10:13:35<madpro|m>As am I 😬
10:13:42<@Sanqui>Kaz: in all fairness, the Matrix bridge's formatting is one of the better I've seen. It preserves most semantics
10:14:37<@Kaz>oh i guess you can't autocomplete names in the same way can you
10:14:52<@Kaz>right, time to stop being a luddite and give it a fair crack, how to i enter a matrix
10:15:40<@Sanqui>pick a client at https://matrix.org/clients
10:15:58<@Sanqui>pick a "homeserver". most homeservers federate with each other, and some bridge to irc networks
10:16:11<@Sanqui>despair at the poor performance
10:16:30<@Sanqui>accept that it's still the best shot we've got at a next gen open federated chat protocol
10:16:55<@Sanqui>and acknowledge that they're actively working on ironing out the issues
10:17:02<@Sanqui>those are the steps, roughly in that order
10:17:20<@Kaz>https://irc.kurt.gg/uploads/574f44c51832ac53/image.png
10:17:31<@Kaz>ok so i think i did step 1 right
10:17:54<@Kaz>maybe my choice of client was bad
10:18:37<@Sanqui>I flip flop between element and nheko.
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10:20:39<kaz__|m>ok
10:21:26<@Sanqui>also, join the archive team "space", which is like a collection of rooms/channels I maintain
10:21:39<kaz__|m>yes
10:21:42<kaz__|m>how would one do that
10:21:49<Sanqui|m>https://matrix.to/#/#archive-team:matrix.org
10:22:19<kaz__|m>oh that's nice
10:22:42<kaz__|m>i mean, clearly the bridge is broken a little bit because it's telling me there's a Kaz4 in here
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10:24:13<@kaz__|m>kaz__|m: cursed reply testing
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10:48:25<Maakuth|m>hmm, the post id - thread mapping is some hundreds of megabytes. if HTTP range requests work in archive.org, maybe I could hack a post finder with this https://phiresky.github.io/blog/2021/hosting-sqlite-databases-on-github-pages/
10:49:40<@JAA>Yes, range requests are supported.
10:49:55<Maakuth|m>well then
10:50:16<@JAA>Alternatively, you could split it into chunks by post ID and only retrieve the relevant one, then do the processing on the client side.
10:51:46<Maakuth|m>the biggest hurdle is my javascript aversity :)
10:52:07<@JAA>Understandable :-)
10:52:44<Maakuth|m>but they sell me out as full stack developer anyway, so it should not be impossible :)
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11:57:59<joepie91|m>kaz: huh. the newer versions of the bridge *should* be converting this to a `foo: blah blah` prefix format instead of the weird reply format. is hackint running an old version of the bridge or something? (I was on mobile, so then a reply is the only practical thing available...)
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12:55:13<nimaje>Maakuth|m: iirc there are already wasm sqlite implementations, that propperly do rangerequests, but I only found sql.js and sqlite-wasm, but didn't find if they do range requests just now
13:07:05<Maakuth|m>nimaje: I think there's a ready made implementation in that link of mine
13:11:55<nimaje>oh, for some reason I completely ignored that link
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16:54:19<@HCross>So this matrix thing, can I run one on my own infra to talk
16:54:23<@HCross>to you lot
16:54:39<joepie91|m>yes
16:56:02<joepie91|m>the IRC bridge to hackint is provided by hackint itself; an IRC bridge in Matrix essentially just 'carves out' a namespace on the homeserver it is attached to. in this case, that's "it controls everything on the hackint.org homeserver, and makes each IRC user appear as a Matrix user and vice versa". Matrix itself is a federated system, so you can talk to that hackint.org homeserver from whatever other homeserver, including one you run
16:56:02<joepie91|m>yourself, and from your client and homeserver's perspective, you're just talking to other Matrix users
16:56:36<joepie91|m>your messages then go from your homeserver, to the hackint.org homeserver, to the hackint.org IRC server
17:02:59<joepie91|m>HCross: homeserver options for Matrix are currently Synapse (the common option, sort of the default, quite a beast to run), Dendrite (the thing that's meant to eventually replace Synapse, supposedly less of a beast, but also may still run into compat issues sometimes), or Conduit (very light-weight and operationally simple, but AFAIK not a complete protocol implementation yet, so it won't always work like you expect yet)
17:17:00<@Sanqui>does anybody know the "best" way to disable hsts for a specific website in firefox?
17:17:24<@Sanqui>I understand why there's no "I understand the risk" button but at the same time, just let me receive the html and display it dammit, I know what I'm doing
17:17:36<TheTechRobo>Sanqui: I was under the impression that websites that use HSTS just don't serve HTTP.
17:17:44<TheTechRobo>Although I guess you might be able to disable cert verification...
17:17:48<@Sanqui>https://avalon-rpg.com/
17:17:53<@Sanqui>yes, it serves https
17:17:55<@Sanqui>with an expired certificate
17:18:02<@Sanqui>and hsts enabled so firefox doesn't let me bypass the screen
17:18:03<TheTechRobo>If you know what the certificate authority is, you can add it to trusted hosts.
17:18:03<TheTechRobo>Ah.
17:18:10<TheTechRobo>That sucks
17:19:37<@Sanqui>and it seems like security.mixed_content.use_hsts no longer exists
17:19:45<@Sanqui>because why give power users the power
17:19:47<@JAA>The web suggests you can set an obscure time offset config value: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/942924
17:19:59<@JAA>Although that's a decade old, so...
17:20:54<@Sanqui>that actually worked
17:21:18<@Sanqui>cheers
17:21:23<@JAA>Impressive
17:23:53<Jake>hahaha amazing
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