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00:30:02<guest1758>Where can non-urgent archival projects be proposed? Is there a list or something?
00:31:13<Jake>Here or in the #archiveteam-bs with a reason and site attached, usually works.
00:35:45<guest1758>I propose Digital Object Identifiers (found on doi.org) to be archived. They are used very often as a reference of scientific papers and as such are of high value for cataloguing and ensuring working scientific references.
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00:40:41<pabs>sounds like something that should get regular archiving rather than a once-off archive?
00:42:50<Jake>We have lots of DOIs, but I don't think we have a specific project for them. Discovery isn't the easiest thing, and I don't believe they publish lists or anything.
00:42:59<guest1758>yes, I would say so. I have not done research on the willingness of the International DOI Foundation to let their references be archived (or any other research apart from looking whether that already got archived by the archiveteam, really).
00:43:02<guest1758>Ok.
00:43:48<Jake>I don't think they publish lists. If they did, we'd happily archive it.
00:49:02<guest1758>ok.
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00:57:01pabs notes doi.org uses Cloudflare
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04:51:19<pabs>from #archivebot: <britmob|m> I'm sorry if this has been mentioned, but https://redump.org's domain name is going to expire in 5 days.. it's got an absolutely massive collection of data.
04:51:51<pabs>(some more discussion there)
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05:22:29<jamesp>britmob|m: We should collect the IP address(es) and other records and ignore SSL errors if we have to (or we can use /etc/hosts on linux) and we can keep archiving the data until it's just the servers shut down.
05:30:48<Jake>That's not really a concern (there's lots of DNS archives out there, and it's much better to grab without any /etc/hosts or similar tricks), but we should archive it in the 5 days we have.
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09:59:06<Arcorann_>What's the recommended process for archiving a Discord server that is in danger
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10:53:25<@Sanqui>Arcorann_: Check #discard and make a request, or consider using DiscordChatExporter or Discard2 (my tool, WIP)
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11:50:19<Arcorann_>Thanks
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15:34:47<HiccupJul>is there a way to recover a grab-site session if the connection with the hdd is interrupted?
15:35:40<HiccupJul>or should i just start over?
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15:51:44<HiccupJul>looking at github issues, i think i'll need to restart
15:51:49<HiccupJul>so i'll do that
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16:12:29<TheTechRobo>HiccupJul: Yeah, grab-site doesn't support resumption OOB.
16:14:45<HiccupJul>ah
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17:45:32<h2ibot>WiredPaper edited Deathwatch (+498, /* Pining for the Fjords (Dying) */ Added…): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=48772&oldid=48768
17:45:33<h2ibot>Embern edited List of websites excluded from the Wayback Machine (+29, An educational game hacking forum that has been…): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=48773&oldid=48769
17:45:34<h2ibot>Themadprogramer edited Discourse (+56, added Schizophrenia.com): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=48774&oldid=48696
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18:00:36<h2ibot>JAABot edited List of websites excluded from the Wayback Machine (+0): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=48775&oldid=48773
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19:19:42<thuban>George: archivebot is working on all my popcap results now
19:20:52<George>thuban: What does archive bot do actually? I don't really know
19:21:16<George>Are the filesgoing to web.archive.org or archive.org
19:21:19<George>Are the filesgoing to web.archive.org or archive.org?
19:21:42<thuban>it downloads stuff from the web, writes a warc record of it, and sends the results to the wbm
19:21:44<thuban>yes, both
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19:23:22<George>Sweet! Thanks a lot for the help. I really appreciate it.
19:23:26<thuban>patterns i searched: '{games}(Setup)?(_{dates})?(_(DE|EN|ES|FR|IT)|-(de|en|es|fr|it))?(_[12345]_[12345])?\.(exe|dmg)', where {games} is the list you originally gave me plus 'Scrabble' and {dates} spans 20110101 to 20131231, and '{games}(Setup)?(AX)(-(de|en|es|fr|it))\.(exe|dmg)'.
19:24:38<thuban>the AX pattern didn't find any language-tagged results, so i didn't extend it to the other pattern elements.
19:24:59<George>Seems exhaustive. That should be all there is. How many links did it actually catch?
19:28:22<thuban>total, 555. it's actually _not_ exhaustive: it doesn't catch PopCapPluginInstaller_v2.exe (which i understand is under a different directory anyway), or any 'extra-weird' patterns (we know of BejeweledBlitzSetup_10x.exe, BejeweledBlitzSetup_60.exe, and ZumaSetup_FP.exe; i _could_ try to extrapolate from these but haven't).
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19:53:11<thuban>...okay, i also tried '{games}(Setup)?(_FP)\.(exe|dmg)' and '{games}(Setup)?(_[0-9]0x?)\.(exe|dmg)'.
19:55:12<thuban>got a couple more '_FP's (what is that? it's not a language code and it's not a country code) and one new '30', but that's all; i don't feel the need to extend that any further. archivebot saving those too.
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20:14:07<George>thuban: I'm honestly unsure what FP is. Maybe Fun pack? Feature Pack? Free Play?
20:15:36<thuban>it's a mystery!
20:18:17<George>And the plugin is in a separate directory
20:18:21<George>http://static-www.ec.popcap.com/binaries/popcap_misc/PopCapPluginInstaller_v2.exe
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21:48:45<@JAA>will1|m: Are the files also available from Clevo directly, or are they being a PITA about it like other vendors?
21:49:07<will1|m>definitely being a PITA
21:49:17<will1|m>no idea where you'd even begin to get them from clevo
21:49:23<will1|m>JAA:
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21:50:02<@JAA>https://www.clevo.com.tw/clevo_down.asp?lang=en seems to have something.
21:50:19<will1|m>by luck this mirror has been up for a while. there's a mirror with a .ru domain that likely has them but wants a login also that i haven't found
21:51:01<@JAA>Also https://my.hidrive.com/share/yze8mg-wf8#$/ apparently, which is of course JS hell.
21:51:27<will1|m>JAA: this is also specifically service manuals. on the first link it definitely has drivers/bios updates but not the manuals afaict
21:51:54<will1|m>JAA: good find on that second one
21:52:06<@JAA>I see.
21:52:11<@JAA>Both of those are linked from https://clevo-computer.com/en/drivers/ by the way.
21:53:23<will1|m>interesting! credit where credit is due i suppose
21:53:39<will1|m>ok maybe less urgent than it originally appeared
21:53:42<@JAA>https://www.clevo.com.tw/en/e-services/download/USRManualOut.asp?model=P1xxEM is a thing for manuals.
21:54:08<@JAA>Er, that's user manuals, not service.
21:54:22<will1|m>yeah that hidrive has the service manuals. specifically info about like, jtag/uart stuff to do lowlevel recovery/soldering
21:54:23<will1|m>ah indeed
21:56:40<@JAA>Do you have any idea about the size of the mirror?
21:57:17<will1|m>i don't but if i had to guess with just bios updates and PDFs probably less than a few gigabytes. i'd bet very highly to be less than 5 GB
21:57:38<will1|m>lots also appears to be zipped
21:57:51<@JAA>Wow, are these service manuals created with Powerpoint and WordArt? https://clevo-computer.com/media/pdf/69/54/a4/N850EJ1-SM-20180427.pdf
21:58:22<will1|m>haha gotta use up all the leftover 90s clip art
21:59:00<will1|m>actually yea that hidrive lists the folder size on the main page
21:59:11<will1|m>service manuals are 3.2 GB
21:59:41<@JAA>Yeah, I wonder if the mirror also has older versions and stuff like that though. In any case, yeah, sounds tiny.
21:59:44<will1|m>drivers is the largest folder at 144 GB but, that's less urgent to me personally
22:00:16<@JAA>ACRONIS is 219 'GB' (GiB?).
22:00:47<will1|m>the linux distributions folder just has popos from 2019. kind of odd thing to just keep mirrored
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22:05:02<@JAA>Hmm, doesn't seem to work in ArchiveBot, and I don't have time to dig into that at the moment.
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22:06:15<thuban>JAA: the basic auth, presumably. wpull has options for handling it, but archivebot doesn't expose them
22:07:30<@JAA>thuban: Yeah, and some redirect weirdness.
22:08:42<thuban>what weirdness would that be?
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22:11:16<@JAA>It correctly retrieved the homepage and correctly extracted the links on it, but on retrieving those, it gets a redirect with an absolute URL and doesn't add the basic auth again to that.
22:12:06<@JAA>It'd probably work fine if the server returned a relative Location header.
22:15:40<thuban>huh!
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23:04:20<TheTechRobo>Another case of edge case websites screwing stuff up. :/
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23:41:04<pabs>a rebrand: https://www.rstudio.com/blog/rstudio-is-becoming-posit/
23:41:17<pabs>worth an AB before it happens?
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