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00:02:53<Jake>(if these two are anything to go by, it looks like that team submitted a "final report" in 2018. https://web.archive.org/web/20190824203725/https://mm.icann.org/pipermail/cct-review/2018-September/002122.html
00:02:53<Jake>https://web.archive.org/web/20190502133803/https://mm.icann.org/pipermail/cct-review/attachments/20180909/0695801f/CCTFinalReport-8September2018-0001.pdf )
00:07:26<thuban>JAA, you have some form of alert setup for site status changes, right?
00:11:05<thuban>https://idnq.net/ was up as of last december and now appears to be down; would be nice to get archived if it reappears (there is some coverage in the wbm but i don't think it's complete)
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00:12:57<@JAA>thuban: #nodeping
00:16:19<thuban>thanks!
00:16:46<thuban>social media chatter suggests it's been down and up again in the past, so i have some little hope here
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02:25:42<@JAA>I compiled a tiny little list of ICANN mailing lists (and that's still not all of them). This will be fun...
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03:39:03<pabs>https://associationsnow.com/2022/05/the-way-things-were-why-open-access-to-the-acm-digital-library-matters/
03:39:13<pabs>perhaps the ACM library should get archived now?
03:55:52<h2ibot>Jurta edited .ps (-5): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=48617&oldid=48610
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04:02:43<@JAA>pabs: Nice! Yes, absolutely in favour of it.
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05:26:16<pabs>might be a good idea to archive this site: https://rarehistoricalphotos.com/
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09:16:25<systwi>Asking here because I know it will get lost in #archivebot, can I run https://nifty.softgames.com/ through?
09:18:09<systwi>pabs: Added.
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09:51:32<Sanqui>systwi: imo go ahead, as long as you monitor it, there's slots
09:52:40<systwi>Thanks for your input, Sanqui! I'll run it in the morning when I have ample time for close monitoring.
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10:47:01<@Kaz>Anyone else in here going to EMF this year?
11:05:57<@OrIdow6>Looking into g.o.a.t/goat.me/goat.at
11:24:26<sonick>OrIdow6: I have looked up subdomains for goat.me before. I don't think all subdomains are included, but it might help.
11:24:42<sonick>https://transfer.archivete.am/oiLCO/goat_domains.txt
12:23:23<russss>Kaz: oh hi, I organise EMF :)
12:39:28<AK>I'm aiming to try and go next year, haven't managed to get myself organised enough for this year
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17:40:19<@Kaz>russss: heh, I didn't even realise you were in here! Hi!
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18:52:42<@OrIdow6>sonick: Where did you gather this from?
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20:09:18<Sanqui>does anybody have a plan for a google play project?
20:10:45<russss>Kaz: I am in too many IRC channels
20:11:23<russss>AK: every two years unfortunately! It's ccc camp next year, somewhere in northern Germany, and we try not to compete with similar events. (also we would die if we ran this every year)
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20:33:15<TheTechRobo>Sanqui: I could work on one, but like I told bonga, we'd need a list of affected apps to get anywhere
20:33:24<TheTechRobo>A full Google Play metadata grab would be too ambitious
20:33:27<TheTechRobo>imo
20:33:36<TheTechRobo>I can work on it, though.
20:33:55<AK>Fool me for not paying attention then russss, thank you. Gives me more time to plan to attend!
21:00:14<Sanqui>sort by release date + warrior could possibly work
21:00:26<Sanqui>getting stuff before 2018
21:02:08<@OrIdow6>I haven't been following this, is this just web stuff? What is shutting down?
21:05:05<Sanqui>this seems to be the original source: https://www.cnet.com/tech/mobile/one-third-of-apple-and-google-apps-are-so-outdated-they-could-get-removed/
21:05:14<Sanqui>salient points:
21:05:26<Sanqui>>If an app hasn't been updated in two years, it will be hidden from view on the Google Play Store and won't appear in search results.
21:05:37<Sanqui>>These "abandoned" apps constitute one-third of the combined app catalogs of the App Store and Play Store, according to the report from analyst firm Pixalate. Google's store had around 869,000 apps that had been neglected for more than two years, while Apple's store had around 650,000.
21:05:54<Sanqui>>Apple's policy for outdated apps is far less clear, though at least one developer said their app would be removed because it was more than two years old.
21:06:57<angelika>some data here https://www.kaggle.com/datasets/gauthamp10/google-playstore-apps
21:09:56<@OrIdow6>I see
21:10:04<Sanqui>nice, https://github.com/facundoolano/google-play-scraper looks like a great starting point
21:10:23<Sanqui>perhaps plugging it into warcprox would be enough
21:12:51<h2ibot>OrIdow6 edited Deathwatch (+302, /* 2022 */ Add Google Play Store stuff): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=48622&oldid=48609
21:14:21<@OrIdow6>Among other things, these scraper things very often don't get all the user-facing requests we want, or it is hard to verify this; also, neither Node.js and Warcprox have been used on warriors before
21:14:33<@OrIdow6>So you'd have to do that centrally
21:15:35<@OrIdow6>*nor
21:16:14<Sanqui>I have experience running node.js and warcprox in tandem, and it probably shouldn't be too hard to set up on a docker-powered warrior, but I haven't made a warrior project before (+ I'm currently quite busy), so consider it more just an idea
21:16:31<angelika>i think this would be just for initially enumerating the application ids
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21:17:34<@OrIdow6>Enumerating in what way?
21:17:54<@OrIdow6>Nor familiar with Android things
21:18:21<angelika>getting a list of all the apps on the play store
21:18:52<h2ibot>FMecha edited Talk:4chan (+646, /* archive.wakarimasen.moe */ new section): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=48623&oldid=46464
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21:20:31<@OrIdow6>Would you just do that by these list APIs mentioned at that GH repo?
21:23:35<angelika>i think it's usually done paging through all of the app categories, but i'm not sure, i've not done it before. that kaggle dataset at 2.3M apps looks fairly complete as of 2021 (when it was done) so reproducing their methodology should be good
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21:52:59<@OrIdow6>If it's just like that it's fine
21:53:29<@OrIdow6>And to be clear if someone CAN get full archivial working at a proper rate with warcprox and Node.js, that's fine too
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23:03:14<lennier1>Apple's policy is that apps not updated in three years may be removed if they're infrequently downloaded (the exact download requirement isn't specified). https://developer.apple.com/news/?id=gi6npkmf
23:04:02<lennier1>They extended the warning period to 90 days, so there may be a bunch of app removals around July 21.
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23:06:14<lennier1>Do Google Play APK downloads require auth?
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23:06:41<Jake>(I believe so)
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23:37:58<pabs>TheTechRobo: there was a company that scraped all the apps and made a list of probably affected ones, I posted it here a few times
23:38:30<pabs>https://www.infoq.com/news/2022/05/abandoned-apps-report/ https://www.pixalate.com/abandoned-mobile-apps-report
23:39:10<pabs>(second one is the report, requires an email address to download the report)
23:44:36<Jake>https://transfer.archivete.am/7fRgh/Abandoned%20Apps%20Report.pdf
23:44:45<Jake>Not much of a report. :(
23:49:31<@JAA>'Want to see all the apps? Schedule a demo'
23:49:39<pabs>sigh :(
23:49:50<@JAA>Please gib moneys, thank.
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