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00:38:33<@JAA>HP_Archivist: According to my logs, they were last around almost three years ago in July 2019.
00:39:44<HP_Archivist>Ah alright. Thanks JAA. I might have to create an issue on the GH repo. I noticed that Tubeup sometimes does not grab the highest possible quality video. Using --debug flag in the output reveals the flag for best video/audio but I'm curious as to what specific parameters it's using. Readme doesn't mention this.
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09:32:43<thuban>if HP_Archivist comes back: the actual format selection would be done by yt-dlp (https://github.com/yt-dlp/yt-dlp#sorting-formats, https://github.com/yt-dlp/yt-dlp/blob/master/yt_dlp/extractor/common.py#L1639)
09:34:34<thuban>grabbing the wrong format might be due to a problem with yt-dlp's sort heuristics, but (especially if you're grabbing from a less popular site) could as well be a bug in the site-specific extractor which provides format metadata to the sorter
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14:51:21<themadpro>This isn't anything new but ever since Yahoo Answers shut down there has been a similar fear of Quora shutting down. Which unlike the Y!A is largely excluded from wayback crawls.
14:51:32<themadpro>Context: https://www.quora.com/Has-Quora-outlived-its-usefulness/answer/Nick-Nicholas-5 , https://spacesadminsmods.quora.com/I-ll-Say-It-Again-Backup-Your-Content
15:05:48<themadpro>Should _Archive Team_ worry about it? I mean it's a bit obfuscated but pages aren't immune to wget
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16:26:35<AK>College in the US shutting down due to combination of covid+ransomware: https://lincolncollege.edu/
16:26:59<AK>(Running in AB)
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17:28:21<@arkiver>themadpro should not leave so soon after
17:28:26<@arkiver>but in case they read logs
17:28:48<@arkiver>do you have any sources to back up those fears of Quora shutting down?
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19:29:06<@JAA>Can't find any mention of it in my logs: Blizzard apparently shut down the old, read-only forums (under https://us.battle.net/forums/) in late 2019 or early 2020. Random discussion about it: https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/is-the-old-forums-gone/404903
19:30:48<@JAA>Yes, they were archived a few months prior: https://archive.org/details/us.battle.net_forums_en_201907
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21:03:30<themadpro>Why yes, I do read the logs. ;)
21:03:48<themadpro>Besides "fear" there has been no statement on the company's part, they're in good standing, for now at least
21:04:48<themadpro>Rather, it's a kind of "if Quora (hypothetically) wants to shut down in a week there isn't any easy way to archive it" deal; mostly due to wayback exclusion and also anti-crawler protection
21:05:33<themadpro>Like I said, shutdown fears had been reignited following the Yahoo Answers shutdown, but a year or so later I think the "emotion" has died out
21:05:41<themadpro>But the difficulty of such a chore is still there
21:05:53<themadpro>Ever lingering
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22:44:28<Jake>I mean, any website "could" shutdown. Not sure what Yahoo Answers has to do with it?
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