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| 15:16:34 | <IDK> | A plane just crashed in china: mu5735 |
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| 15:41:24 | <@JAA> | We can't archive a plane. |
| 15:41:34 | <Frogging101> | lol |
| 15:41:57 | <Frogging101> | Not with that attitude :^) |
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| 16:09:16 | <GarveyPatrickD> | Since this is my first time here, I guess an introduction is in order. |
| 16:10:14 | <GarveyPatrickD> | I am a retired IBM System/360 VM SP1 System Administrator. |
| 16:11:28 | <GarveyPatrickD> | It's been a while since I used IRC. So, in may take a while for me to get my fingers educated again. |
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| 16:13:55 | <GarveyPatrickD> | I have a concern about a website I found an admirable attempt to aid the multi-language programmers of the world, RosettaCode.org. |
| 16:14:51 | <GarveyPatrickD> | I just tried to logon to RosettaCode and got a 524 timeout. |
| 16:16:05 | <GarveyPatrickD> | I had been trying to manually Internet Archive the site, but it's so big and was so volatile I felt lucky to discover the existence of the ArchiveTeam. |
| 16:18:55 | <GarveyPatrickD> | Can we discuss trying to archive RosettaCode? Here's the latest Internet Archive of the Main Page: http://web.archive.org/web/20220312212451/https://rosettacode.org/wiki/Rosetta_Code |
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| 16:32:50 | <Sanqui> | GarveyPatrickD: welcome to Archive Team! |
| 16:33:54 | <Sanqui> | As far as Rosetta Code goes, since it's a wiki it's covered by #wikiteam. It seems like the last capture was done in 2016, so it may be time for another one. https://archive.org/details/wiki-rosettacodeorg-20160117 |
| 16:39:16 | <GarveyPatrickD> | Sanqui: Thank you. It's good to be here, I hope. |
| 16:40:05 | <GarveyPatrickD> | "it's covered by #wikiteam" So, I should discuss it in that channel? |
| 16:40:20 | <@JAA> | Yeah, if it returns, we should redump it and probably also capture it through ArchiveBot, although possibly without past page revisions. |
| 16:40:27 | <Sanqui> | Yep, if you hop onto the channel and request it, it's likely somebody will pick it up |
| 16:40:44 | <@JAA> | At the moment, the site is entirely dead (for me, anyway), so nothing can be done currently. |
| 16:42:41 | <GarveyPatrickD> | JAA: I'm getting a 524 timeout from CloudFlare. |
| 16:42:43 | <@JAA> | I've set up a monitor in #nodeping. |
| 16:43:30 | <@JAA> | Yep, origin timeout, i.e. the server actually hosting the site is completely unresponsive. |
| 16:45:29 | <GarveyPatrickD> | There isn't any RosettaCode page in the ArchiveTeam Wiki. Should I start one? Is there some normal information expected in such a page? |
| 16:46:10 | <Sanqui> | you may start one, it's good to make note of any past archival attempts, as well as keep a record of when the site has been encountering downtime |
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| 16:47:38 | <GarveyPatrickD> | Sanqui: Do you have any favorite ArchiveTeam wiki page I can use as a model? |
| 16:49:37 | <Sanqui> | haha the most recent paage I started seems to be https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/Webzone.ee, you can basically copy and replace the infobox, the right status for this would be {{ Online }} probably |
| 16:49:55 | <Sanqui> | I'm not sure we really have help on how to make wikipages, so just wing it, and somebody will fix it, don't worry too much |
| 16:51:57 | <GarveyPatrickD> | Sanqui: I've made several wiki pages. I just find a community builds certain cultural expectations about what is good content. I'll take a look at Webzone, thanks. |
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| 16:56:45 | <spirit> | hm, any idea why https://archive.org/history/Fileplanet_dd_042006 was access restricted? i see some usage online https://www.google.com/search?q=Fileplanet_dd_042006 but is there a log with a message somewhere maybe? |
| 16:57:14 | <spirit> | in the task log there is just 'Updating meta.xml with access-restricted-item = "true"' |
| 16:57:17 | <spirit> | but no reason |
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| 17:11:02 | <@JAA> | You'd probably have to email IA about that. But it 'only' requires an account for downloading, no special access, as far as I can see. |
| 17:24:15 | <spirit> | ah nice |
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| 20:50:52 | <h2ibot> | GarveyPatrickD created Rosetta Code (+522, Initial input for Rosetta Code): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?title=Rosetta%20Code |
| 21:02:54 | <h2ibot> | GarveyPatrickD edited Rosetta Code (+69, Add Chrestomathy external link): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=48402&oldid=48400 |
| 21:36:58 | <h2ibot> | Schbirid edited Fileplanet/Status of by id grab (+483, /* Status */ notes about empty tars at IA): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=48403&oldid=48393 |
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| 22:22:15 | <plarkspug> | how do you access the actual music files in the archive of theartistunion? i used the archive.org CDX search to verify the track page i want is archived and checked the wayback page, but it relies on javascript to load data, so the page is empty. do i have to check the warc cdx index for each archive in the collection to see if the track i want is |
| 22:22:16 | <plarkspug> | in it, then dowload the entire web archive file and extract it? |
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| 22:27:57 | <@JAA> | plarkspug: https://web.archive.org/web/20190715062105/https://theartistunion.com/api/v3/tracks/000012.json and then take the audio_source from there, I think. |
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| 22:33:25 | <plarkspug> | thanks. the track i was looking for was a WAV file, but the archive only contains the low quality 128kbps mp3 preview file. is that intentional? |
| 22:36:58 | <plarkspug> | tried another one which was originally 320 kbps mp3 and it did return what i was looking for this time. thank you! |
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| 22:46:46 | <@JAA> | Hmm, I don't remember the details, but there was some weird fuckery with how to get the original file vs that MP3. |
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| 22:47:23 | <@JAA> | We did a POST request with a cookie to get the download URL, but that mapping wasn't kept I think. |
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| 22:48:40 | <@JAA> | But for that example I mentioned above, this is a thing: https://web.archive.org/web/*/https://d2tml28x3t0b85.cloudfront.net/tracks/original_files/000/073/433/original/Duke%20Lee%20-%20Oceania%20(Original%20Mix).mp3 |
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| 22:51:04 | <plarkspug> | got it thanks. |
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