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03:18:59<@arkiver>maybe we just need a different way to upload AB to IA than FOS
03:19:26<SketchTheCow>You fucking THINK?
03:19:33<SketchTheCow>Welcome to 2019
03:19:47<@JAA>Yeah, that's been the plan since late 2019 at least.
03:19:59<nicolas17>what is FOS?
03:20:05<TheTechRobo>archiveteam's staging server
03:20:12<@JAA>https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/Fortress_of_Solitude
03:20:15<@arkiver>for AB at the moment
03:20:16<TheTechRobo>basically where stuff goes while it's uploaded to IA
03:20:25<@arkiver>not used for warrior projects anymore
03:20:26<SketchTheCow>I mean
03:20:46<SketchTheCow>On the other hand, "it was all going well until we decided to back up two entire countries' internets in a week" also sits on the table
03:21:01<@JAA>Yeah, pretty much why I didn't devote much time to it since 2019.
03:21:18<SketchTheCow>This is a pretty fundamentally unique situation
03:21:26<SketchTheCow>I mean, until they fuck up Moldova
03:21:43<@arkiver>then we'll get moldova
03:21:58<SketchTheCow>Always writing checks you don't have to cash
03:22:06<SketchTheCow>Let me go see what teamarchive1 has
03:22:09<nicolas17>I'm surprised it can't keep up sending to IA if it's inside IA's network, guess the bottleneck isn't networking...
03:22:28<SketchTheCow>It is and isn't
03:23:19<TheTechRobo>is it that the IA just isn't the fastest in general? or is that caused by my internet or something?
03:23:21<@JAA>S3 has been at reduced capacity since the power outage it seems.
03:23:30<@JAA>So I bet that has something to do with it.
03:23:30<SketchTheCow>Eh, teamarchive1 isn't really in a shape.
03:23:33<SketchTheCow>You need a buffer box.
03:23:44<SketchTheCow>You need one that isn't FOS that then hands things to FOS as needed
03:23:53<SketchTheCow>there must be one fuckin' hero out there
03:23:59<SketchTheCow>Someone sitting on, say, 250tb of space
03:23:59<@arkiver>we offloaded before
03:24:07<@JAA>Yes, don't worry, it'll be done.
03:24:08<@arkiver>might upload directly from that to IA as well
03:24:27<Niklink>sorry man, it's just- videogames weight so much nowadays, you know
03:24:34<nicolas17>I have 1TB space and 20Mbps uplink >.>
03:24:49<TheTechRobo>Hah, I have 0.68Mbps uplink
03:24:53<TheTechRobo>Fastest internet in the west
03:25:02<SketchTheCow>teamarchive1 is out for the count. It's mirroring bitsavers these days.
03:25:03<nicolas17>midwest? :P
03:25:05<SketchTheCow>Which, you know
03:25:29<TheTechRobo>Well, I'm Ontarian, so not really the west, but ...
03:25:33<SketchTheCow>I can see that fos is absolutely uploading properly
03:25:39<SketchTheCow>The problem is S3 is CONSTANTLY timing out.
03:25:40<SketchTheCow>CONSTANTLY.
03:25:50<SketchTheCow>It's a functional problem. I'll mention it to Sam and maybe it'll get fixed
03:26:02<TheTechRobo>teamarchive1?
03:26:13<SketchTheCow>But regardless, IA can't be surprisingly slow/problematic dealing with literal hundreds of TBs constantly uploading.
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03:27:09<@JAA>Yeah, the graphs look atrocious since the outage: https://analytics0.archive.org/stats/s3.php?tz=UTC
03:27:11<SketchTheCow>There's currently 6.7tb of material on FOS
03:27:46<@JAA>Only sped up again a couple hours ago but still not quite at the previous levels.
03:27:47<@arkiver>some servers have been having trouble since the outage
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03:28:18<nicolas17>my last item upload hit issues because each individual file created a task and I reached the limit of pending tasks heh
03:28:19<SketchTheCow>I just pinged sam, you know, at 7:30pm on a Saturday
03:28:25<@arkiver>thanks
03:28:30<nicolas17>I had to do some manual throttling
03:29:19<SketchTheCow>I have archivebot crap being uploaded, rsync is down.
03:29:36<SketchTheCow>But while I clean that up as best I can, the fact remains. Buffer space, that's your only hope here.
03:29:59<nicolas17>is http://fos.textfiles.com/pipeline.html where I can see the current "buffer size"? how often does it update?
03:30:03<SketchTheCow>Arkiver's distrust of anyone not named Arkiver aside, having some maniac with a mass of TB would be the solution.
03:30:05<@JAA>Yep, just need to wait for the European nerds to wake up.
03:30:07<SketchTheCow>No, I killed that
03:30:26<SketchTheCow>It's accurate to the disk space usage.
03:30:43<SketchTheCow>We don't warrior pipeline through FOS anymore.
03:30:47<SketchTheCow>We archivebot
03:32:09<SketchTheCow>Buy I can already see the source of the problem.
03:32:17<nicolas17>I mean I expected disk usage to change as stuff gets uploaded and removed from FOS, but it doesn't seem to change, so I guess it just doesn't update often
03:32:18<SketchTheCow>Constant, and I mean CONSTANT timeouts and failures.
03:32:35<SketchTheCow>So I'd say, oh.... 25% of the transactions are succeeding
03:32:41<TheTechRobo>Wow
03:32:45<@JAA>nicolas17: It's regenerated hourly.
03:32:57<nicolas17>ah hourly, okay that answers my question
03:34:12<nicolas17>something I noticed before when uploading 4GB files through my 20Mbps pipe is the upload finishing and then timing out waiting for IA's success response (even after I greatly increased the timeout), then I go to the website and the item *did* upload successfully
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03:34:24<geekbench>https://www.phonearena.com/news/geekbench-removes-galaxy-s-flagships-because-of-gos-throttling_id138848
03:34:43<TheTechRobo>nicolas17: yeah, I think I've run into that before
03:35:04<TheTechRobo>gn all
03:35:17<TheTechRobo>have to fix my sleep schedule :P
03:35:25<@JAA>There was a bug report for that at one point. It comes down to S3 weirdness really though.
03:35:27<geekbench>alsohttps://programadoresbrasil.com.br/en/2021/07/oneplus-acusada-manipular-resultados-testes-benchmark-dispositivos-retirados-lista-geekbench/?s=Snapdragon+888&?amp=1
03:35:31<geekbench>https://programadoresbrasil.com.br/en/2021/07/oneplus-acusada-manipular-resultados-testes-benchmark-dispositivos-retirados-lista-geekbench/?s=Snapdragon+888&?amp=1
03:35:40<geekbench>https://www.phonearena.com/news/geekbench-removes-galaxy-s-flagships-because-of-gos-throttling_id138848
03:36:04<nicolas17>geekbench: what are we supposed to do with this information? :)
03:36:20<geekbench>https://www.pcworld.com/article/542215/no-geekbench-didnt-just-eradicate-cpu-leaks.html
03:36:41<geekbench>Make a Geekbench archive
03:36:54<geekbench>also it will be preserving hardware
03:37:44<@JAA>Because they removed four database entries, which they've done before? Meh
03:38:10<geekbench>https://browser.geekbench.com/
03:38:22<geekbench>also they removed all the s22 Samsung benchmarks
03:38:32<geekbench>search it up and oh no
03:39:10<geekbench>https://browser.geekbench.com/search?q=Samsung+Galaxy+S22 None but a knockoff s22
03:40:42<geekbench>https://www.androidpolice.com/geekbench-banned-four-years-samsung-flagships-throttling-debacle/
03:40:47<geekbench>look at this
03:40:55<geekbench>All of them is gone
03:41:02<geekbench>but s21 remains
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03:42:38<geekbench>Ok I’ll make a page
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03:43:12<SketchTheCow>Anyway, I'm uploading THX-1138 AND Bambi Meets Godzilla off of teamarchive1
03:43:16<SketchTheCow>So important thingsa re happening
03:46:50<SketchTheCow>Ha ha, well, now brewster's in the mix
03:54:44<SketchTheCow>Why are you all running, you'll just die tired
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04:38:37<SketchTheCow>I'll turn on rsync when it's past 3tb free, which might be a while.
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07:55:22<@OrIdow6>DuoLingo forum users archiving it themselves with archive.is (since the WBM doesn't replay it properly, I assume due to the timestamp those forums use) https://forum.duolingo.com/comment/56320322
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17:16:39<simon816>I have 10TB free space locally if ya'll get desperate :p not a very stable connection though
17:34:10<@JAA>Duolingo has moved their shutdown date forward from 31st to 22nd. https://forum.duolingo.com/comment/55930597
17:34:30<@JAA>(Or is that 'backward'? I don't know. Anyway...)
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17:36:03<h2ibot>JustAnotherArchivist edited Deathwatch (+16, /* 2022 */ Duolingo shutdown date changed): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=48339&oldid=48335
17:41:24<@JAA>Hmm actually, looks like that was the date all along based on the WBM snapshots of that thread? I'm confused now.
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18:44:51<@OrIdow6>Huh
18:45:09<@OrIdow6>And looks like multiple people mentioned the 22nd date in my logs as well
18:46:05<@OrIdow6>I'd guess we were going off the earliest report that it was shutting down "at the end of march"
18:46:39<@JAA>Yeah probably, or I just mixed it up with something else.
19:14:49<@OrIdow6>Well, regardless, who wants to do it?
19:15:07<@OrIdow6>If need be I can probably write a little wget-lua-with-no-Seesaw thing
19:25:09<@OrIdow6>Looks like only 2? levels of recursion are needed, though?
19:25:30<@OrIdow6>Well, 2 levels, I think that's only 1 level of recursion
20:19:29<@OrIdow6>So looks like maybe this could work in a 2-stage ao thing in AB?
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20:41:58<TheTechRobo>doesn't AB have a --level param? or is that only grab-site?
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20:47:24<@OrIdow6>requires extraction from warcs so irrelevant, and no
20:47:36<@OrIdow6>afaIk
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22:38:33<Mayk78>not sure if correct channel, but just encountered this.. If true , should there maybe be an attempt made to get what we can get if Russia disconnects from the internet ? https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1500553480548892679?s=20&t=Tjozjl0vAYLXHyWWjHM_Bg
22:39:12<@JAA>Anything related to Ukraine and Russia goes into #ucryne, and yeah, it's been discussed there already.
22:39:54<Mayk78>ah ok.. thank you .
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