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00:08:24<lennier1>I got an e-mail from Discord that they're changing their community guidelines effective March 28. It specifically mentions, "Our Community Guidelines now officially prohibit misinformation and disinformation, malicious impersonation, and better define spam and platform manipulation." https://discord.com/guidelines
00:08:41<@OrIdow6>Ukraine (supposedly, as far as I can tell the only source is a copypasta of an email) asks the ICANN to disconnect Russia from the Internet https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/02/very-very-bad-ideas-ukraine-asks-icann-to-disconnect-russia-from-the-internet/
00:10:25<@OrIdow6>Do you think that entails any actual change in policy lennier1?
00:12:38<@OrIdow6>In removals
00:12:49<nicolas17>that's so absurd
00:14:56<lennier1>Yes, it's described as a policy change. Presumably some content that's not currently prohibited will be removed March 28. https://discord.com/blog/important-policy-updates
00:15:07<lennier1>"To help make Discord a safer place for everyone, we are prohibiting harmful misinformation and will now consider off-platform behavior in some cases. We’ve also updated the protected attributes in our hate speech policy to include caste, gender identity, age, serious illness, and more. "
00:15:37<lennier1>"These changes go into effect on March 28, 2022 — we’re telling you about them now so you can understand what’s changing before then. To agree to the changes, all you have to do is keep using Discord. If you don’t agree, you should stop using Discord (though we’d be very sad to see you go)."
00:16:05<@OrIdow6>lsdb.nl shutting down on the 9th (https://old.reddit.com/r/Archiveteam/comments/t5djsi/lsdbnl_massive_rave_shows_set_database_closing/ , notice on homepage), few hundred k pages, looks like you can just use numeric page IDs and redirects will expand them to the full URLs
00:16:36<TheTechRobo>The annoying part about "stop using Discord" is you can't really, if everyone you know uses it
00:16:51<TheTechRobo>You _can_, but a lot fo the time it's impractical to contact them otherwise
00:16:53<TheTechRobo>Offtopic tho
00:19:02<@OrIdow6>Nominal policy is not actual policy, and less vaugely the question becomes what, if anything, we should target for preservation
00:21:35<lennier1>Here are the old guidelines, no mention of disinformation: https://web.archive.org/web/20220224175352/https://discord.com/guidelines
00:22:01<lennier1>But yes, difficult to identify what would fall under the new guidelines.
00:26:04<audrooku|m>lennier1: That's the point, so they can enforce them for whatever they want. I dont agree with this approach as much as I dislike the hugely prominent misinfo surrounding current events
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00:33:33<nicolas17>Steam Deck recovery image is out
00:34:15<nicolas17>https://steamdeck-images.steamos.cloud/recovery/steamdeck-recovery-1.img.bz2
00:34:21<nicolas17>linked from https://store.steampowered.com/steamos/download/?ver=steamdeck&snr=
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02:46:53<pcr>OrIdow6: If the US passes something to knock Russia off the internet, ICANN would probably have to comply.
02:49:50<@OrIdow6>pcr: I only skimmed the article, what's this about the US trying this?
02:52:10<pcr>Did not mean to say the US is activity trying to do that, just than even if ICANN initially rejects that request they might be forced to do it anyways
02:53:16<pcr>Swift for example is holding out to be forced to cut out Russian banks from the global economy
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03:27:14<pabs>this person died: http://www.pjorourke.com/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P._J._O%27Rourke https://mattlabash.substack.com/p/p-j-orourke-1947-2022 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30528443
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05:01:30<pabs>bandcamp got acquired: https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2022-03-02-epic-games-acquires-online-music-store-bandcamp
05:01:46<@JAA>Yes, see discussion earlier.
05:02:16<pabs>ah, must have been when I was offline
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06:13:43<u0_a77>just dropping by to say thanks for the courageous effort of panic-downloading and making available of .ru site mirrors
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06:17:03<aloo_shu>is the header found on the wayback renditions available as a sperarate statement,something I could link to independent of an archived page? "History is littered with [..]", I think that paragraph is pretty lucid
06:23:57<Jake>Hmm, I'm not sure which header you are talking about?
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06:43:25<aloo_shu>one sec
06:44:24<aloo_shu>I found it when someone pointed me to https://web.archive.org/web/20220226051154/https://ria.ru/20220226/rossiya-1775162336.html
06:45:57<aloo_shu>the article is nationalist babblings, but the rationale for making it available, is valuable
06:49:23<aloo_shu>so I'm assuming wayback machine will put that header over every page from that collection, but I'd like to reference the paragraph starting with 'History is littered with hundreds of conflicts over the future of a community, group, location or business that were "resolved" when one[..]' directly
06:49:53<aloo_shu>if it is a quote, then ideally at its source
06:50:56<nicolas17>https://archive.org/details/archiveteam&tab=about
06:55:19<aloo_shu>ok cool, shows lost at the bottom in a text browser, but lets see in a gui one
06:57:56<aloo_shu>oh fine yes that'll work
06:59:39<aloo_shu>and *if* I can link this source, then I can also paste or pastebin the statement
07:00:18<aloo_shu>thanks nicolas17 , and kudos once more
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07:07:13<@OrIdow6>Oh, lsdb was already mentioned in #at
07:07:26<@OrIdow6>DOn;t know how I missed that
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09:32:28<wessel1512>!ig 2k625zorc56prdp81jsket02n ^https?://scontent-iev1-1\.xx\.fbcdn\.net/
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10:21:55<useretail>in a week, on 10.03.2022, imagehosting radikal.ru will be shutting its doors. some stats: users: 943'791, images: 805'665'689
10:25:50<useretail>to get a json with links to images:
10:25:56<useretail>POST 'AnchorId=&Direct=1&Tag=&PageSize=100&DateTimeAnchor=' to 'https://radikal.ru/Img/GetGalleryPage'
10:26:06<useretail>in returned json, all links are in Imgs array. value of LeftAnchor represents the AnchorId of a next page, so the request for a next page should look like:
10:26:11<useretail>POST 'AnchorId=145165900&Direct=1&Tag=&PageSize=100&DateTimeAnchor=' to 'https://radikal.ru/Img/GetGalleryPage'
10:35:05<useretail>...they have gems like this: https://a.radikal.ru/a14/2203/3c/f18f51f8d2a8.jpg
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11:35:22<h2ibot>Switchnode edited Deathwatch (+152, /* 2022 */ add radikal.ru): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=48321&oldid=48312
11:35:33<thuban>useretail: thanks for the info! know anything about their video hosting?
11:54:53<useretail>thuban, almost the same
11:55:00<useretail>POST 'AnchorId=&Direct=0&Tag=&PageSize=100&DateTimeAnchor=' to https://radikal.ru/VideoUpload/GetGalleryPage
11:55:25<useretail>links to videos are in Videos array
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12:34:06<thuban>nb, those image/video urls are 302d to an html page if requested with a browser-like User-Agent _and_ an html-like Accept. (the page doesn't appear to preserve any of the metadata available in the json and definitely doesn't work without javascript.)
12:35:20<thuban>useretail: is there anything on the site that's interesting aside from the uploaded files, like maybe albums or user profiles?
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13:00:27<useretail>thuban, if you store the json responses, the info is already there: OwnerId, OwnerLogin, OwnerUrlPart. as wells as AlbumId, AlbumTitle
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13:22:01<thuban>useretail: seeing those there is why i asked--what i mean is, are there any pages with more information about those (such as the list of files in an album) that should also be saved?
13:23:03<thuban>even if it is all in that json, it's nice to make urls from the site work in the wayback machine if possible
13:25:27<thuban>aha--f'https://radikal.ru/users/{OwnerUrlPart}#alb={AlbumUrlPart}'. requires javascript
13:29:27<useretail>thuban, just grab the data first
13:29:31<useretail>user: https://radikal.ru/users/<OwnerUrlPart>
13:29:36<useretail>albums: https://radikal.ru/users/<OwnerUrlPart>#albums=true
13:29:39<useretail>album: https://radikal.ru/users/<OwnerUrlPart>#alb=<AlbumUrlPart>
13:31:15<useretail>image: https://radikal.ru/users/<OwnerUrlPart>#alb=&img=<IdLong>
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13:32:24<useretail>if you have json+data you're the king
13:32:53<useretail>the rest is just html template and javascript
13:33:48<useretail>videos: https://radikal.ru/users/<OwnerUrlPart>#videos=true
13:40:47<thuban>thank you. i'm not in charge of grabs and can't start them--i ask these questions because they help us decide what tools to use and how to configure them.
13:40:56<thuban>i'm a little concerned by the 'IsPublicImg' field in the results of the GetUserImgs endpoint used by the user page--it's sometimes false. any idea what this means? (will these images not show up in GetGalleryPage?)
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16:57:47<@OrIdow6>Can someone put http://okinawa-repo.lib.u-ryukyu.ac.jp/index.jsp?lang= into ArchiveBot? Shutting down sometime this month per notice on homepage
17:10:27<@OrIdow6>useretail: Where is the image gallery page?
17:10:48<@OrIdow6>The counterpart to https://radikal.ru/videogallery
17:13:27<@OrIdow6>SO this site doesn't look too complicated, hopefully I can get it started w/i 48 hours or so
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17:51:48<SketchTheCow>Was asked by someone to archive https://echo.msk.ru/ which has voted to shut down
17:54:07<@JAA>Already running through AB since Tuesday. :-)
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21:02:02<TheTechRobo>Do we have a way to archive Bilbili accounts?
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21:18:15<h2ibot>JustAnotherArchivist edited Deathwatch (+81, /* 2022 */ Add LSDB): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=48322&oldid=48321
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22:19:49<gazorpazorp>Nintendo Is Removing Switch Emulation Videos on Steam Deck from YouTube https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30546274 https://exputer.com/news/nintendo/switch-emulation-steam-deck/
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