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| 01:00:26 | <nicolas17> | arkiver: hey, the topic of archiving Apple ipsw files came up again... |
| 01:01:21 | <nicolas17> | I'm currently uploading some ipsws that Apple deleted from their servers but I still had locally (main goal was to free up local disk space tbh ^^) |
| 01:01:32 | <nicolas17> | and uploading them as individual items |
| 01:02:06 | <nicolas17> | https://archive.org/details/@nicolas09f9?and%5B%5D=subject%3A%22ipsw%22 |
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| 01:04:58 | <nicolas17> | but I don't have the bandwidth to get the terabytes and terabytes of files that Apple *does* still have and re-upload them to IA |
| 01:05:37 | <nicolas17> | afaik you could throw the URLs into #// and make them available via WBM, but I have had bad results downloading multi-gigabyte files from WBM, so I'm not sure if that's the way to go... |
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| 01:48:12 | <Arcorann> | Question: how can I confirm that a socialbot request I made has been run? |
| 02:14:07 | <@arkiver> | nicolas17: i would like to have the data in the wayback machine anyway |
| 02:14:18 | <@arkiver> | what was the source of the URLs again, and do you have a lists for me? |
| 02:17:51 | <michaelblob> | arkiver: you can find the ipsw lists like this (https://osxdaily.com/2013/11/15/get-list-all-ipsw-files-from-apple/) |
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| 02:18:28 | <michaelblob> | i'm currently checking to see which of the links aren't on WBM and can send you a list |
| 02:18:33 | <michaelblob> | what's the best way to send that list? |
| 02:18:45 | <nicolas17> | MZITunesClientCheck only has the last version available for each device |
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| 02:19:29 | <nicolas17> | I'd scrape theiphonewiki to get all versions: https://www.theiphonewiki.com/wiki/Firmware/iPhone/15.x |
| 02:35:18 | <nicolas17> | michaelblob arkiver: https://data.nicolas17.xyz/ipsw-10-final.txt iOS 10.0 and greater |
| 02:44:49 | <michaelblob> | have you been manually uploading to IA? trying to figure out the best way to add the relevant metadata |
| 02:45:43 | <nicolas17> | considering how jank my script is, might as well be manual lol |
| 02:46:43 | <michaelblob> | lmao i feel that, i was thinking of building a small python script to scrape then check if the file is available on IA and if not, then download and upload |
| 02:47:58 | <nicolas17> | at first I uploaded one version for all devices, so the version stuff was hardcoded, and only the "devices it applies to" had any fanciness |
| 02:49:09 | <nicolas17> | now I can work with multiple versions but I still need to update a hardcoded list with '17A5522f': ('iOS 13.0 beta 3', '13.0b3', '2019-07-02') |
| 02:52:48 | <nicolas17> | michaelblob: this may help https://api.ipsw.me/v4/ipsw/15.0.1 |
| 02:53:08 | <nicolas17> | API docs on https://ipswdownloads.docs.apiary.io/ |
| 02:54:44 | <michaelblob> | ah that makes things much easier, don't have to scrape the wiki itself |
| 02:55:42 | <nicolas17> | "we need to put those wiki tables into something machine-readable" has been a to-do item for years in the Apple hacking scene :P |
| 03:12:04 | <michaelblob> | i see that the docs recommend using the "boards" property but i don't see where it's used |
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| 07:54:04 | <Arcorann> | <Arcorann> Question: how can I confirm that a socialbot request I made has been run? <-- found the answer to my own question (http://dashboard.at.ninjawedding.org/finished) |
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| 11:09:16 | <Webuser563> | Is there a list of recommended services/communities that are very unlikely to go offline or be deleted? |
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| 11:21:44 | <@OrIdow6> | irs.gov |
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| 11:27:21 | <@OrIdow6> | It's possible someone has tried to make such a list Webuser563, but my opinion is that doing so realistically, and having more than 0 items, is an impossible task |
| 11:28:29 | <Webuser563> | but we trust that archive.org will remain available? |
| 11:29:08 | <@OrIdow6> | Nothing is immune from going down, and in the long term everything will - our longest human institutions have only lasted for a few thousand years, and even then their identity versus the original is often questionable |
| 11:29:38 | <@OrIdow6> | If it's something really important, I wouldn't |
| 11:32:16 | <@OrIdow6> | Outside of the apocalypse and science fiction, human civilization is certainly going to outlast the organization; the question is whether the data gets out |
| 11:33:39 | <@OrIdow6> | Unless something very dramatic happens I'd at least expect it to last 10 years, though |
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| 12:35:29 | <Webuser563> | but not all websites are equaly reliable (long term). I assume content i create on wikipedia to be existant longer than on quora. |
| 12:35:58 | <Webuser563> | If more content were created on safer sites, archiving would be less of a problem |
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| 14:19:07 | <@OrIdow6> | Webuser563: So putting emphasis on "be deleted" instead of "go offline", that's true, but Wikipedia is uniquely eligible (both for technical and social reasons) for being rehosted if the "real" one ever goes down; whereas for forums, etc., who keeps that data around is going to be a problem |
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| 14:19:47 | <@OrIdow6> | Like, Yahoo answers now has (AFAICT) the ArchiveTeam collection, which isn't really indexed anywhere, and 2 (partial?) mirrors from shady-ish companies using it as advertising |
| 14:21:19 | <@OrIdow6> | Someone came on here recently asking if anyone could complete the Geocities torrent, because, despite Geocities once having been the second? most popular site on the Web, no one was seeding the full copy |
| 14:23:54 | <@OrIdow6> | This should probably move to #archiveteam-ot , despite being ArchiveTeam-related this isn't really relevant to doing archiving work |
| 15:02:52 | <Webuser563> | i agree, thank you |
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| 23:47:15 | <Pawlicker> | heya. i found a software archive that's shutting down in a week from now. it's not archived. |
| 23:47:52 | <Pawlicker> | http://www.bullfreeware.com/ aix 5.3/6.1/7.1/7.2 recompiled software. |
| 23:50:39 | <Pawlicker> | march 1st is the shutdown date. didn't know about it until i decided to look it up. |
| 23:51:39 | <@arkiver> | #telegrab for a likely telegram project |
| 23:55:00 | <Pawlicker> | anyhow where would you submit URLs to be archived? this is the one that grabs everything on their server. http://www.bullfreeware.com/packages/ |